U.S. Official Says Close to Catching Bin Laden

[Winnow]

My script outlined many months ago hasn't changed except for the need for actual terrorist attacks for Bush to be reelected if Bush keeps his double digit lead.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... a_osama_dc

"Success against people that you know about, Osama, could happen tomorrow, could happen the day after, a week from now, or a month from now," he added.


Black's comments, made only to Pakistani media, came just a few days after President Bush (news - web sites), who is standing for re-election in November, said that three-quarters of known al Qaeda leaders have been captured or killed.

First Presidential Debate:

Opening Question for President Bush:

Many have questioned why it has taken so long to track down Osama Bin Laden and Senator Kerry has been critical of your comments about The war on terror not being winnable. How do you respond?

Bush: I'd like to announce tonight, that Osama Bin Laden has been captured on the Pakistani/Afghan border and is in U.S. custody. We can and we WILL win this war on terror!

CHEERS CHEERS CHEERS!!!!! FOUR MORE YEARS, FOUR MORE YEARS!

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

My script outlined many months ago hasn't changed except for the need for actual terrorist attacks for Bush to be reelected if Bush keeps his double digit lead.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... a_osama_dc

"Success against people that you know about, Osama, could happen tomorrow, could happen the day after, a week from now, or a month from now," he added.


Black's comments, made only to Pakistani media, came just a few days after President Bush (news - web sites), who is standing for re-election in November, said that three-quarters of known al Qaeda leaders have been captured or killed.

First Presidential Debate:

Opening Question for President Bush:

Many have questioned why it has taken so long to track down Osama Bin Laden and Senator Kerry has been critical of your comments about The war on terror not beingwinnable. How do you respond?

Bush: I'd like to announce tonight, that Osama Bin Laden has been captured on the Pakistani/Afghan border and is in U.S. custody. We can and we WILL win this war on terror!

CHEERS CHEERS CHEERS!!!!!

That would rule.

[Kelshara]

I said long ago that Osama would be captured. Guess it takes not just lies but pure trickery for the moron to ensure victory. If he hadn't ran off to Iraq to play the good son and ignored the war on terror Osama would have been captured a long time ago.

But wait.. that wouldn't help his election would it?

[Winnow]

Here's my timeline posted July 8th:

Timeline:

July-August: Terror threat hyped up in the media
Early September: Home Defense Warning raised to orange

Late September scenario A: The presidential race is close...Announcement that Osama has been captured. Bush wins

Late September scenario B: Bush trails by a large margin...major terrorist attack occurs within the United States followed by Osama being captured....Bush wins.

Late September scenario C: Bush filmed snorting a line of coke off an intern's breast...major terrorist attack occurs in US...Osama captured...Hillary secretly releases pictures to the media of Kerry in the late 70's pounding a young boy in the ass while giving him a reach around...Bush wins

Kerry is trailing by double digits so my senarios may not be needed. It's nice to have backup plans in place though!

Hello paranoia!

[Adex_Xeda]

I wonder if Osama is even in a position right now to call the shots of his organization.

Running from hideout to hideout, and relying on word of mouth probably restricts what he can do as far as an organizer.

[Kelshara]

bin Laden is first and foremost a figurehead. He never was the technical brain behind the operations.

[Sionistic]

how many times has the government said we are close to catching him?

[Kylere]

What is really funny is that the people that think the least of Bush think he is able to orchestrate a massive government cover up of the biggest story since 911 itself. If he COULD do it, then he should be president.

If he shows up captured 2 days before the election, it will be because that is when he is captured.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

bin Laden is first and foremost a figurehead. He never was the technical brain behind the operations.

OMG....Yet another big breaking story by Kelshara. Holy fuck! Like, how do you know all this shit? You are truly an amazing individual.

[Kelshara]

If you actually read something else then pure propaganda you would know this. Been reported tons of times. It has even been discussed here several times before.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

If you actually read something else then pure propaganda you would know this. Been reported tons of times. It has even been discussed here several times before.

uh-huh.

You are such a blithering fool.

[Kelshara]

Google is your friend. Although that would take intelligence.

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News ... 44,00.html

Al-Qaeda No 2 is the 'brain'
19/03/2004 17:04 - (SA)
Cairo - Osama bin Laden is the leader of al-Qaeda, but Ayman al-Zawahri, whom officials say is cornered in Pakistan, is thought to be largely responsible for turning the terror group into a feared international network.

Pakistani forces believe they have cornered, and perhaps wounded, the Egyptian-born al-Zawahri in a major battle near the Afghan border.

Al-Zawahri, bin Laden's deputy, is thought to have provided much of the ideology driving al-Qaeda since his Egyptian Islamic Jihad merged with the network in 1998, according to experts.

"He is bin Laden's brain," said Montasser el-Zayat, a prominent Egyptian attorney who defends Islamic radicals and spent three years in prison with al-Zawahri.

"He's the planner, the organiser and the thinker who laid the ground for the idea of an Islamic front."

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/interna ... =316952004

As mentor to Osama bin Laden and the brains behind al-Qaeda, al-Zawahri is considered one of the world’s most dangerous men.

An eye surgeon who speaks several languages, al Zawahri took the path of political extremism while in his teens. He later guided the rich Saudi, bin Laden, along the same path, leading to the creation of the world’s most feared and effective terrorist organisation.

http://english.people.com.cn/200403/22/ ... 8133.shtml

Mir describe al-Zawahri as "the real brain behind Osama bin Laden."

"He is the real strategist, Osama bin Laden is only a front man," Mir was quoted as saying during the interview. "I think he is more dangerous than bin Laden."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114806,00.html

Mir describe al-Zawahri as "the real brain behind Usama bin Laden."

"He is the real strategist, Usama bin Laden is only a front man," Mir was quoted as saying during the interview. "I think he is more dangerous than bin Laden."

There I even threw in a Fox News link for you so it must be true! You truly are a simpleton and so easy to counter.

[Kelshara]

bin Laden is first and foremost a figurehead. He never was the technical brain behind the operations.

OMG....Yet another big breaking story by Kelshara. Holy fuck! Like, how do you know all this shit? You are truly an amazing individual.

If you actually read something else then pure propaganda you would know this. Been reported tons of times. It has even been discussed here several times before.

uh-huh.

You are such a blithering fool.

There, now you can't edit your posts and hide your stupidity.

[Xzion]

Not a relavent post, but im listening to Jeb talk now and i have noticed Dubyah is the only person in his family with an accent, how the fuck does that happen? His ass is from the northeast, his brother who was raised with him does not have a southern accent but he somehow does...

[Dregor Thule]

What is really funny is that the people that think the least of Bush think he is able to orchestrate a massive government cover up of the biggest story since 911 itself. If he COULD do it, then he should be president.

If he shows up captured 2 days before the election, it will be because that is when he is captured.

Bush couldn't orchestrate that, I don't think anyone here thinks he himself can. His overlords and masters can!

I'm putting down Sept 28th as the day Osama is liberated.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

bin Laden is first and foremost a figurehead. He never was the technical brain behind the operations.

OMG....Yet another big breaking story by Kelshara. Holy fuck! Like, how do you know all this shit? You are truly an amazing individual.

If you actually read something else then pure propaganda you would know this. Been reported tons of times. It has even been discussed here several times before.

uh-huh.

You are such a blithering fool.

There, now you can't edit your posts and hide your stupidity.

No desire to edit my posts. Never have.

I find it funny your desire and others to make sure even if we get Osama, that it really doesn't matter anyway, cause he doesn't do shit anyhow. He is just the face. I absolutely love how you people alter history and turn every positive into a negative. It's a fucking disease with you people.

[Kelshara]

So you got called out, proven to be 100% wrong and so completely uninformed it is amusing.. and you try to turn it back on "you others"? You know, SOME of us have said all along that Osama is just a figurehead. But once again, that wouldn't be beneficial to your beliefs would it?

Start actually reading something outside of neocon propaganda and stop being so misinformed.

[Siji]

I find it funny your desire and others to make sure even if we get Osama, that it really doesn't matter anyway, cause he doesn't do shit anyhow. He is just the face. I absolutely love how you people alter history and turn every positive into a negative. It's a fucking disease with you people.

Oh, you mean kind of like Bush altered history to tie Iraq and 9/11 together right?

Go castrate yourself bitch.

[Zaelath]

I find it funny your desire and others to make sure even if we get Osama, that it really doesn't matter anyway, cause he doesn't do shit anyhow. He is just the face. I absolutely love how you people alter history and turn every positive into a negative. It's a fucking disease with you people.

Oh, you mean kind of like Bush altered history to tie Iraq and 9/11 together right?

Go castrate yourself bitch.

Only people who are pro-vendetta, I mean pro-war, have ever said that capturing Osama will have any effect on terrorism.

Everyone else has said, time and again, that assassinating/capturing leaders will have no appreciable negative effect on terrorism.

Terrorists are not mercenaries, they will continue to fight without the leader, in fact, I would have thought everyone with a high school education in the western world is familiar with the concept of terrorist cells that don't have contact with anyone for years on end.

Mind you, the only good religious extremist is a dead religious extremist. And, yes, that does include christians, jews, taoists, maoists, moonies or any other religion you care to insert.

[Crav]

You know all this talk of catching Osama makes me wonder what's going to happen once we actually catch him. What actions are we going to take, he committed crimes against citizens in our country and I would guess that would mean he could be tried in court, but under what charges?

I guess he could be brought up on crimes against humanity, but some how I don't think we're going to hand him over to anyone else’s authority. I guess we could have a military tribunal, but some how I don't think that is going to fly to well.

So that takes us back to a United States court room. Can we find a jury that can try him? Now even if we are some how able to convict him some how, what then, does he get the death penalty? Do we really need to give an extremist religious sect a martyr? We all know how much more powerful a dead leader can be than a live one. What's the other option? Life in prison, do you honestly believe that he would make it one night in an American prison? Even if he was isolated I am sure the prisoners or the guards would find a way to kill him, which would put us back in the martyr situation. Now all this is assuming that the soldiers that catch him don't kill him on sight and again we wind up with a martyr.

[Sirton]

I think we should keep him alive....tie him up...fly him by helicopter dangling below and show pictures of him in the capitols of Iran, N. Korea and Syria...then take each of em out.

Seriously I think its best to take him out and never say one way or the other (unless Bush is lossing 1 week before election time )....When yall know hes dead that way is when the number 2 guy is reported killed.

[Xzion]

You know all this talk of catching Osama makes me wonder what's going to happen once we actually catch him. What actions are we going to take, he committed crimes against citizens in our country and I would guess that would mean he could be tried in court, but under what charges?

I guess he could be brought up on crimes against humanity, but some how I don't think we're going to hand him over to anyone else’s authority. I guess we could have a military tribunal, but some how I don't think that is going to fly to well.

So that takes us back to a United States court room. Can we find a jury that can try him? Now even if we are some how able to convict him some how, what then, does he get the death penalty? Do we really need to give an extremist religious sect a martyr? We all know how much more powerful a dead leader can be than a live one. What's the other option? Life in prison, do you honestly believe that he would make it one night in an American prison? Even if he was isolated I am sure the prisoners or the guards would find a way to kill him, which would put us back in the martyr situation. Now all this is assuming that the soldiers that catch him don't kill him on sight and again we wind up with a martyr.

We will never catch Osama. We may kill him, but we will never catch a man like that, in other words he "aint no punk ass bitch" like hussein, he will die like husseins sons, fighting

[Metanis]

Mind you, the only good religious extremist is a dead religious extremist. And, yes, that does include christians, jews, taoists, maoists, moonies or any other religion you care to insert.

Between this thread and this paragraph it reminded me of Eric Rudolph the asswipe accused of bombing abortion clinics and the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta.

How long did this guy elude capture right here in the states? It was like years and the FBI put forth a lot of resources in capturing him.

So how much harder is it to find Osama in that rugged area they claim he is holed up? I'm beginning to think we may never catch him and that's sad because he needs to be brought to justice. Islamic justice.

[Kelshara]

hum interesting thought, what charges and what court? I mean, is there any DIRECT evidence against the man? Has he himself actually done anything?

[Arborealus]

hum interesting thought, what charges and what court? I mean, is there any DIRECT evidence against the man? Has he himself actually done anything?

Good lord I hope we don't have to rely on evidence from the CIA...They don't have the best record of producing reliable answers of late...