Democrats are pussies

[Xyun]

"I admire them, they are good at what they do," he said to me.

"What is it that they do, Karl?" I asked, dumbfounded.

He giggled and said "well... they lie, cheat, manipulate, distort, and feed the propaganda machine, but they do it with impeccable proficiency." We both started laughing.

My friend Karl is a E-6 staff sergeant in the United States Army. He served his country for a year longer than he originally signed up for, and he served in Baghdad. His job in the military police in Baghdad was to round up criminals/terrorists and send them to prison.

He's told me many stories. Stories of soldiers he knew that died, stories of people begging them for food and water or children cheering them on as they drove by, stories of mortars dropping within 100 yards of where he slept, stories of raiding people's houses and sometimes going to the wrong house, but the most telling story of all: before he left, he was a Republican, now he is a Democrat.

We were chatting last night and you know what? He's right. Republicans are generally better at getting stuff done. They are more organized, more determined, and more apt to preserve the values they were taught as children. These are traits I want in my leaders, but I must say that they also have traits I despise, like distorting the truth.

Our topic of conversation last night was their success at labeling democrats as tree-hugging hippy non-patriotic pussies. They've successfully turned the word liberal into an insult. "They call us pussies, nevermind that the very man that is my commander-in-chief went AWOL when it came time for him to serve his country, while the man running against him not only served, but shot people and was shot at, took and saved lives, and recieved medals for his actions, and they have the audacity to declare that he is not fit to be commander-in-chief? As a soldier, I know who I want my leader to be, it's an easy choice."

He's right. Why is it that we are not talking about Dubya's military service? Why are we not talking about Dubya's political decisions? Or his track record as an alcoholic, an evangelical christian, or a failed business man and failed president? It's simple, Republicans are better than us at propaganda. They know precisely how to shift the focus from their misgivings to their opponent's, and they do it with the fervor of a rabid dog cornered and fighting for its life. They make no bones about it, they don't try to hide it, they will tell you bluntly to your face that you are whatever they say you are, be it true or not, and you are a pussy for not doing it to them. "It is evil. They appeal to the evil in people's nature, and sadly they get cheered on by half of the population" Karl said as we watched the end of the football game. "They are filled with so much hate that they are blinded by the fact that Bush does seem a bit like Hitler, and when you tell them that, they don't laugh you off, they get extremely defensive, as if it is the truth of the statement that hurts them."

But both Karl and I believe they will lose this election. We think it will be a landslide for Kerry. Not because of the swing vote or the Democrat's mobilization, but because we believe that many Republicans simply will not vote. Whether consciously or sub-consciously, they will stay home on election day. We have faith that the population at large is not as stupid as they think it is. Yes, I said it, faith in people's nature to want to do what is right, and if we are wrong then so be it, America will show its true colors to the rest of the world and we will have to endure whatever consequences that leads to.

[Tegellan]

That's a pretty fucking intelligent post, good thoughts in there I think. Now I am not an american, but you pretty much nailed the thoughts i had on the election and the runners.

Here is hoping for Kerry to win.

[Metanis]

By the time I got to this...

...the fact that Bush does seem a bit like Hitler...

I was laughing my ass off.

Carry on the comedy show, it's about all you liberal losers have left.

[Dregor Thule]

Good post up until the last paragraph. I don't think it'll be a landslide, but I'm hoping for a Kerry win for sure. Placing faith in people at large is as misguided as placing faith in an imaginary being IMO.

[Adex_Xeda]

The guy has heard half truths and embraces them as fact.

Hitler labels are hurled by dumbfounded and desperate. Bush is by no means a meserizing orator, or a cult of personality.

He's no better than a die hard Bush supporter who blinds himself to questions about the administration's honesty. He's just on the other political side.

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

By the time I got to this...

...the fact that Bush does seem a bit like Hitler...

I was laughing my ass off.

Carry on the comedy show, it's about all you liberal losers have left.

Do you really feel that way about people with political views different from yours? That they are 'losers' ? I'm curious to know.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

By the time I got to this...

...the fact that Bush does seem a bit like Hitler...

I was laughing my ass off.

Carry on the comedy show, it's about all you liberal losers have left.

Do you really feel that way about people with political views different from yours? That they are 'losers' ? I'm curious to know.

He might have meant losers as in losing this election. But, maybe not.

[Metanis]

By the time I got to this...

...the fact that Bush does seem a bit like Hitler...

I was laughing my ass off.

Carry on the comedy show, it's about all you liberal losers have left.

Do you really feel that way about people with political views different from yours? That they are 'losers' ? I'm curious to know.

With a capital L.

You know the one... like Michael Moore was waving at the RNC crowd the other night.

[Kelshara]

Metanis do you get excited every time you throw Michael Moore out there? You use him 10 times more than any democrat or in fact more than all democrats here added together. And the fact that you labe everyone with a different view than yourself loser says a lot about you heh.

[Metanis]

Metanis do you get excited every time you throw Michael Moore out there? You use him 10 times more than any democrat or in fact more than all democrats here added together. And the fact that you labe everyone with a different view than yourself loser says a lot about you heh.

I could give a shit about Michael Moore but in the context of this thread it worked fine. Anybody who saw the assclown waving the "L" during Cheney's speech will know what I mean.

Michael Moore is a symbol of everything wrong with people like you Kelshara. He is a convenient way to point out the untruthfulness and hypocrisy of the left end of the political spectrum. Invoking his name is a code-word thing, similar to the liberals invoking Halliburton or Enron any time they want to try and talk about corporate malfeasance.

In the context of this current events category of a message board, I do strongly feel you are losers if you don't (approximately) agree with my viewpoint. And if you had a shred of honesty about you then you would admit a similar point of view. If you are all touchy feely about being called a loser, then perhaps you don't have the courage of your convictions. Arnold had a word for your type... Girlie men.

[Kelshara]

Hi. Here is a clue: I don't think I agree with anything Moore says. Have a nice day!

[Crav]

In the context of this current events category of a message board, I do strongly feel you are losers if you don't (approximately) agree with my viewpoint. And if you had a shred of honesty about you then you would admit a similar point of view. If you are all touchy feely about being called a loser, then perhaps you don't have the courage of your convictions. Arnold had a word for your type... Girlie men.

I am sorry, but I do not worship at the House of Metanis. That is basically what your saying is it not? If someone dares have a different view point or strays from the path then they are not worthy, they are, using your words losers. I am surprised that someone who professes belief in god feels this way. Why, well because I've always believed that god is in everyone and that what people say, do and believe (even non belief) is their expression of his message. I try to learn from what they say and do even if I do not agree with it then offer my take on it. That way I can understand them better and in so doing understand myself better. I would never think of putting my own opinion above anyone else’s because that would be putting my own mind above god's, which is something I do not believe in. Now does that mean that I won't argue my opinion? Of course not, it is my interpretation of the message and like everyone else deserves to be heard. Otherwise if I just keep it to myself how can anyone learn, as I wish to learn from them?

[Xzion]

Metanis do you get excited every time you throw Michael Moore out there? You use him 10 times more than any democrat or in fact more than all democrats here added together. And the fact that you labe everyone with a different view than yourself loser says a lot about you heh.

I could give a shit about Michael Moore but in the context of this thread it worked fine. Anybody who saw the assclown waving the "L" during Cheney's speech will know what I mean.

Michael Moore is a symbol of everything wrong with people like you Kelshara. He is a convenient way to point out the untruthfulness and hypocrisy of the left end of the political spectrum. Invoking his name is a code-word thing, similar to the liberals invoking Halliburton or Enron any time they want to try and talk about corporate malfeasance.

In the context of this current events category of a message board, I do strongly feel you are losers if you don't (approximately) agree with my viewpoint. And if you had a shred of honesty about you then you would admit a similar point of view. If you are all touchy feely about being called a loser, then perhaps you don't have the courage of your convictions. Arnold had a word for your type... Girlie men.

ehhh? you take this shit too personally
my brothers pretty conservative and i wouldnt call him a "loser",most of my family is republican, and i even have a few bush supporting friends too, doesnt mean because they havnt been enlightened with my political truth that they are total wastes of life....

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[kyoukan]

I can't believe you people haven't given up trying to talk sense into a lost fucking cause like metanis or midnyte yet. Just flame them; that is all they are good for. Neither has ever once in their entire posting history ever said anything remotely intelligent or poignant, but you keep expecting them to.

I am just enjoying myself bookmarking all these threads so I can dredge them back up after Kerry wins the election.

[Metanis]

Hi. Here is a clue: I don't think I agree with anything Moore says. Have a nice day!

It's a great day to be alive. Bush is surging ahead in the polls and Kelshara's got her panties in a wad! It don't get much better than this!

[Metanis]

I can't believe you people haven't given up trying to talk sense into a lost fucking cause like metanis or midnyte yet. Just flame them; that is all they are good for. Neither has ever once in their entire posting history ever said anything remotely intelligent or poignant, but you keep expecting them to.

I am just enjoying myself bookmarking all these threads so I can dredge them back up after Kerry wins the election.

Keep dreaming honey.

[Metanis]

In the context of this current events category of a message board, I do strongly feel you are losers if you don't (approximately) agree with my viewpoint. And if you had a shred of honesty about you then you would admit a similar point of view. If you are all touchy feely about being called a loser, then perhaps you don't have the courage of your convictions. Arnold had a word for your type... Girlie men.

I am sorry, but I do not worship at the House of Metanis. That is basically what your saying is it not? If someone dares have a different view point or strays from the path then they are not worthy, they are, using your words losers. I am surprised that someone who professes belief in god feels this way. Why, well because I've always believed that god is in everyone and that what people say, do and believe (even non belief) is their expression of his message. I try to learn from what they say and do even if I do not agree with it then offer my take on it. That way I can understand them better and in so doing understand myself better. I would never think of putting my own opinion above anyone else’s because that would be putting my own mind above god's, which is something I do not believe in. Now does that mean that I won't argue my opinion? Of course not, it is my interpretation of the message and like everyone else deserves to be heard. Otherwise if I just keep it to myself how can anyone learn, as I wish to learn from them?

Why argue with someone who only reads the parts they want to?

[Crav]

In the context of this current events category of a message board, I do strongly feel you are losers if you don't (approximately) agree with my viewpoint. And if you had a shred of honesty about you then you would admit a similar point of view. If you are all touchy feely about being called a loser, then perhaps you don't have the courage of your convictions. Arnold had a word for your type... Girlie men.

I am sorry, but I do not worship at the House of Metanis. That is basically what your saying is it not? If someone dares have a different view point or strays from the path then they are not worthy, they are, using your words losers. I am surprised that someone who professes belief in god feels this way. Why, well because I've always believed that god is in everyone and that what people say, do and believe (even non belief) is their expression of his message. I try to learn from what they say and do even if I do not agree with it then offer my take on it. That way I can understand them better and in so doing understand myself better. I would never think of putting my own opinion above anyone else’s because that would be putting my own mind above god's, which is something I do not believe in. Now does that mean that I won't argue my opinion? Of course not, it is my interpretation of the message and like everyone else deserves to be heard. Otherwise if I just keep it to myself how can anyone learn, as I wish to learn from them?

Why argue with someone who only reads the parts they want to?

I don't know I often ask myself that question as well. I guess it's just my own personal belief that what I say or do whatever the context or location is who I am. I tend to give that consideration to everyone and I apologize for doing that in your case. People can say oh it's just a message board, but I don't change the way I see things and my beliefs just because it's not face to face.

[Kelshara]

Hi. Here is a clue: I don't think I agree with anything Moore says. Have a nice day!

It's a great day to be alive. Bush is surging ahead in the polls and Kelshara's got her panties in a wad! It don't get much better than this!

You had to mean more to me than dogshit under my shoe for me to be upset. Keep dreaming though, I know it makes your sad life feel better.

[Dregor Thule]

You know Kelshara is a guy, right?

[Kelshara]

Ssshhhh don't make him run crying to his mother about rerpessed sexual fantasies now.

[Metanis]

I don't know I often ask myself that question as well. I guess it's just my own personal belief that what I say or do whatever the context or location is who I am. I tend to give that consideration to everyone and I apologize for doing that in your case. People can say oh it's just a message board, but I don't change the way I see things and my beliefs just because it's not face to face.

Damn guy, lighten up.

[Metanis]

You know Kelshara is a guy, right?

You slept with him/her/it?

[Kelshara]

Why, are you jealous?

[Crav]

I don't know I often ask myself that question as well. I guess it's just my own personal belief that what I say or do whatever the context or location is who I am. I tend to give that consideration to everyone and I apologize for doing that in your case. People can say oh it's just a message board, but I don't change the way I see things and my beliefs just because it's not face to face.

Damn guy, lighten up.

Come on you know you want to say it, "It's just a message board!"

[Dregor Thule]

You know Kelshara is a guy, right?

You slept with him/her/it?

No. Do you need to sleep with someone to know their gender? If so, then I assure you, your mother was female.

[Zaelath]

The guy has heard half truths and embraces them as fact.

Hitler labels are hurled by dumbfounded and desperate. Bush is by no means a meserizing orator, or a cult of personality.

He's no better than a die hard Bush supporter who blinds himself to questions about the administration's honesty. He's just on the other political side.

That's a pretty strong statement from someone that believes the bible....

[Dregor Thule]

Yea, but see, the bible is true! There's a huge difference, friend.

[Toshira]

You know Kelshara is a guy, right?

You slept with him/her/it?

No. Do you need to sleep with someone to know their gender? If so, then I assure you, your mother was female.

[Siji]

Metanis is simply trying to top Midnyte for ass clown of the country. He's a long ways behind, but give him credit for trying.

[Acies]

Metanis, I will try to post this as simply as I can:

1) FACT: Bush AWOL'd to avoid Vietnam service.

2) FACT: Bush stated that there were, without a doubt, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but has failed to show us proof of the existance of these weapons even after we have taken control of that country.

3) FACT: Bush is the only Felon to ever serve as the President of the United States of America.

4) FACT: Bush was quoted saying "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice........ yo...you can't fool me again."

5) FACT: He promised us Bin Laden would be captured and brought to justice.

Now, if you wish I can provide you sources for all of these facts. However, I want you to show me some facts about Kerry and why he should not be president. Remember, FACTS is the keyword here.

[Winnow]

1) FACT: Bush AWOL'd to avoid Vietnam service.

Not a factor in the election. Bush isn't running on his military record, Kerry is trying to run on his though. Clinton proved that military record has zero impact.

2) FACT: Bush stated that there were, without a doubt, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but has failed to show us proof of the existance of these weapons even after we have taken control of that country.

Bush was given incorrect information from our intelligence agencies. On top of that, his campaign managers came up with the excellent description of Saddam himself being a weapon of mass destruction.

It's a valid issue regarding our intelligence agencies and both sides have vowed to reform them so it's a wash.

3) FACT: Bush is the only Felon to ever serve as the President of the United States of America.

Felon? What felony? Do you have a link to an official document and not speculation stating Bush is a felon?

4) FACT: Bush was quoted saying "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice........ yo...you can't fool me again."

Not sure what you're talking about here.

5) FACT: He promised us Bin Laden would be captured and brought to justice.

As double talking democrat/liberals like to play both sides of things much like their candidate Kerry...I'll explain to you.

Bin Laden is a figurehead. His capture or confirmed death won't change anything except gain Bush votes as liberals seem to think Bin Laden is the mastermind when it suits them and think Bin Laden is a puppet when it doesn't suit them.

I personally think it would be best not to tell anyone if Bin Laden were confirmed dead as it would only martyr him while leaving it an unknown weakens his influence even more.

[Acies]

1) FACT: Bush AWOL'd to avoid Vietnam service.

Not a factor in the election. Bush isn't running on his military record, Kerry is trying to run on his though. Clinton proved that military record has zero impact.

2) FACT: Bush stated that there were, without a doubt, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but has failed to show us proof of the existance of these weapons even after we have taken control of that country.

Bush was given incorrect information from our intelligence agencies. On top of that, his campaign managers came up with the excellent description of Saddam himself being a weapon of mass destruction.

It's a valid issue regarding our intelligence agencies and both sides have vowed to reform them so it's a wash.

3) FACT: Bush is the only Felon to ever serve as the President of the United States of America.

Felon? What felony? Do you have a link to an official document and not speculation stating Bush is a felon?

4) FACT: Bush was quoted saying "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice........ yo...you can't fool me again."

Not sure what you're talking about here.

5) FACT: He promised us Bin Laden would be captured and brought to justice.

As double talking democrat/liberals like to play both sides of things much like their candidate Kerry...I'll explain to you.

Bin Laden is a figurehead. His capture or confirmed death won't change anything except gain Bush votes as liberals seem to think Bin Laden is the mastermind when it suits them and think Bin Laden is a puppet when it doesn't suit them.

I personally think it would be best not to tell anyone if Bin Laden were confirmed dead as it would only martyr him while leaving it an unknown weakens his influence even more.

Responding down the list:

1) True, he is not resting on his dubious military career, because it would not support him (not a bash, just a fact).

2) Regardless of what he was told, he is responsible. That is the heavy burden of leadership and he fucked up.

3) Going AWOL is a felony offense.

4) Do a google search for that quote, you can find it man.

5) Please, do not make me a liberal or a democrat in your mind Winnow. I am a registered independant. I vote for whomever is best (or in this case will do the least damage). I agree with you personally that Bin Laden being killed and not a soul alive knowing of it would probably be the best possible course of ation. Excepting that Bush promised us his capture. I do not care if it is now convient for him to off Bin Laden secretly, because he made a promise to the citizens of the U.S. If he is unwilling or unable to fufill his word, then he should never have given it in the first place.

[Metanis]

Winnow's response owned you Acies... by a wide margin.

Regarding your request:

However, I want you to show me some facts about Kerry and why he should not be president.

I only need one FACT... please read Kerry's testimony to Congress in 1971. It's a matter of public record and I think it speaks for itself. I also think a man doesn't get a 2nd chance after committing treason.

[Kelgar]

1) FACT: Bush AWOL'd to avoid Vietnam service.

Not a factor in the election. Bush isn't running on his military record, Kerry is trying to run on his though. Clinton proved that military record has zero impact.

2) FACT: Bush stated that there were, without a doubt, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but has failed to show us proof of the existance of these weapons even after we have taken control of that country.

Bush was given incorrect information from our intelligence agencies. On top of that, his campaign managers came up with the excellent description of Saddam himself being a weapon of mass destruction.

It's a valid issue regarding our intelligence agencies and both sides have vowed to reform them so it's a wash.

3) FACT: Bush is the only Felon to ever serve as the President of the United States of America.

Felon? What felony? Do you have a link to an official document and not speculation stating Bush is a felon?

4) FACT: Bush was quoted saying "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice........ yo...you can't fool me again."

Not sure what you're talking about here.

5) FACT: He promised us Bin Laden would be captured and brought to justice.

As double talking democrat/liberals like to play both sides of things much like their candidate Kerry...I'll explain to you.

Bin Laden is a figurehead. His capture or confirmed death won't change anything except gain Bush votes as liberals seem to think Bin Laden is the mastermind when it suits them and think Bin Laden is a puppet when it doesn't suit them.

I personally think it would be best not to tell anyone if Bin Laden were confirmed dead as it would only martyr him while leaving it an unknown weakens his influence even more.

Responding down the list:

1) True, he is not resting on his dubious military career, because it would not support him (not a bash, just a fact).

2) Regardless of what he was told, he is responsible. That is the heavy burden of leadership and he fucked up.

3) Going AWOL is a felony offense.

4) Do a google search for that quote, you can find it man.

5) Please, do not make me a liberal or a democrat in your mind Winnow. I am a registered independant. I vote for whomever is best (or in this case will do the least damage). I agree with you personally that Bin Laden being killed and not a soul alive knowing of it would probably be the best possible course of ation. Excepting that Bush promised us his capture. I do not care if it is now convient for him to off Bin Laden secretly, because he made a promise to the citizens of the U.S. If he is unwilling or unable to fufill his word, then he should never have given it in the first place.

3. The AWOL deal has been spun a billion times over. They will argue about what "is" is with regards to shrub's NG record. If you're looking for an undeniable, spinless point of attack, try his multiple DUI infractions and having his license suspended for 540 days (implying no less than 2 violations).

[Arborealus]

1) FACT: Bush AWOL'd to avoid Vietnam service.

Not a factor in the election. Bush isn't running on his military record, Kerry is trying to run on his though. Clinton proved that military record has zero impact.

2) FACT: Bush stated that there were, without a doubt, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but has failed to show us proof of the existance of these weapons even after we have taken control of that country.

Bush was given incorrect information from our intelligence agencies. On top of that, his campaign managers came up with the excellent description of Saddam himself being a weapon of mass destruction.

It's a valid issue regarding our intelligence agencies and both sides have vowed to reform them so it's a wash.

3) FACT: Bush is the only Felon to ever serve as the President of the United States of America.

Felon? What felony? Do you have a link to an official document and not speculation stating Bush is a felon?

4) FACT: Bush was quoted saying "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice........ yo...you can't fool me again."

Not sure what you're talking about here.

5) FACT: He promised us Bin Laden would be captured and brought to justice.

As double talking democrat/liberals like to play both sides of things much like their candidate Kerry...I'll explain to you.

Bin Laden is a figurehead. His capture or confirmed death won't change anything except gain Bush votes as liberals seem to think Bin Laden is the mastermind when it suits them and think Bin Laden is a puppet when it doesn't suit them.

I personally think it would be best not to tell anyone if Bin Laden were confirmed dead as it would only martyr him while leaving it an unknown weakens his influence even more.

Responding down the list:

1) True, he is not resting on his dubious military career, because it would not support him (not a bash, just a fact).

2) Regardless of what he was told, he is responsible. That is the heavy burden of leadership and he fucked up.

3) Going AWOL is a felony offense.

4) Do a google search for that quote, you can find it man.

5) Please, do not make me a liberal or a democrat in your mind Winnow. I am a registered independant. I vote for whomever is best (or in this case will do the least damage). I agree with you personally that Bin Laden being killed and not a soul alive knowing of it would probably be the best possible course of ation. Excepting that Bush promised us his capture. I do not care if it is now convient for him to off Bin Laden secretly, because he made a promise to the citizens of the U.S. If he is unwilling or unable to fufill his word, then he should never have given it in the first place.

3. The AWOL deal has been spun a billion times over. They will argue about what "is" is with regards to shrub's NG record. If you're looking for an undeniable, spinless point of attack, try his multiple DUI infractions and having his license suspended for 540 days (implying no less than 2 violations).

It is curious however that Bush's record is unassailable...while Kerry's clearly needs revision to accomodate their political desires......

And apparently we need to revise court records of the time as well and add in a Treason conviction for Kerry as they are so fond of pointing out that he committed treason...

Hell with it let's just revise it and imprison him that'll will solve it completely...Those pesky facts need not get in the way of what we want to believe...

[Metanis]

Hell with it let's just revise it and imprison him that'll will solve it completely...Those pesky facts need not get in the way of what we want to believe...

LOL.

No seriously you should be laughing at yourself. You are so clueless there isn't much else you can do but laugh at yourself.

You know why the liberals can never quite get people to buy their horseshit? It's because most people don't knowingly deceive themselves.

If you want to put facts on the table then do so. Your post was just another liberal recital of innuendo and smear. So by all means... put facts on the table.

[Arborealus]

Hell with it let's just revise it and imprison him that'll will solve it completely...Those pesky facts need not get in the way of what we want to believe...

LOL.

No seriously you should be laughing at yourself. You are so clueless there isn't much else you can do but laugh at yourself.

You know why the liberals can never quite get people to buy their horseshit? It's because most people don't knowingly deceive themselves.

If you want to put facts on the table then do so. Your post was just another liberal recital of innuendo and smear. So by all means... put facts on the table.

Heh ok let me know when you have revised them sufficiently to argue a point instead of the arguement...

[Kelshara]

Bin Laden is a figurehead. His capture or confirmed death won't change anything except gain Bush votes as liberals seem to think Bin Laden is the mastermind when it suits them and think Bin Laden is a puppet when it doesn't suit them.

Uh only person I have seen saying bin Laden is the mastermind is Midnyte. Now you can't get much further away from liberal and into neocon teritory than that.

Heh ok let me know when you have revised them sufficiently to argue a point instead of the arguement..

Will never happen.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Bin Laden is a figurehead. His capture or confirmed death won't change anything except gain Bush votes as liberals seem to think Bin Laden is the mastermind when it suits them and think Bin Laden is a puppet when it doesn't suit them.

Uh only person I have seen saying bin Laden is the mastermind is Midnyte. Now you can't get much further away from liberal and into neocon teritory than that.

Heh ok let me know when you have revised them sufficiently to argue a point instead of the arguement..

Will never happen.

Actually I never said he was the mastermind. He is widely recognized as the leader of Al Qaeda though. Thus capturing the "leader" is important and does help the fight against terrorism.

[Dregor Thule]

What happens when you cut off the head of a fanatical terrorist organization? You create a martyr. Not saying it doesn't need to be done, carpet bomb the fucker, but it won't be the end of AQ by a long shot unfortunately

[Arborealus]

What happens when you cut off the head of a fanatical terrorist organization? You create a martyr. Not saying it doesn't need to be done, carpet bomb the fucker, but it won't be the end of AQ by a long shot unfortunately

Yerp thats the point of 4 per cell organizational structures...

[Kelshara]

Nice backpedaling Midnyte. Want me to quote your responses when I called him a figure-head and said he was not the tactical leader?

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Nice backpedaling Midnyte. Want me to quote your responses when I called him a figure-head and said he was not the tactical leader?

If you would like. But, I concede I cannot keep up with your childish games. You will defeat me 100% of the time. You are a master of conversing like a child. I just cannot compete.

[Kelshara]

So proving you wrong with facts is conversing like a child and being childish? Ah, you seem to become more and more like Bush every day.

[Karae]

For Winnow: http://mp3.dubyaspeak.com/foolmeonce.mp3

[Winnow]

For Winnow: http://mp3.dubyaspeak.com/foolmeonce.mp3

Bush forgot a saying? That's like criticizing Bush Sr because he accidentally said November 7th instead of December 7th once for the Pearl Harbor anniversary date. It happens.

Jumping on misquotes of this type are about as desparate as you can get to try and convince yourself of something.

Bush admitted he's not going to rank at the top of the class when it comes to being some sort of an Oxford english master of the language.

[Arborealus]

For Winnow: http://mp3.dubyaspeak.com/foolmeonce.mp3

Bush forgot a saying? That's like criticizing Bush Sr because he accidentally said November 7th instead of December 7th once for the Pearl Harbor anniversary date. It happens.

Jumping on misquotes of this type are about as desparate as you can get to try and convince yourself of something.

Bush admitted he's not going to rank at the top of the class when it comes to being some sort of an Oxford english master of the language.

yeah can't win...will win...that takes an oxford scholar to differentiate...

[Winnow]

For Winnow: http://mp3.dubyaspeak.com/foolmeonce.mp3

Bush forgot a saying? That's like criticizing Bush Sr because he accidentally said November 7th instead of December 7th once for the Pearl Harbor anniversary date. It happens.

Jumping on misquotes of this type are about as desparate as you can get to try and convince yourself of something.

Bush admitted he's not going to rank at the top of the class when it comes to being some sort of an Oxford english master of the language.

yeah can't win...will win...that takes an oxford scholar to differentiate...

It was a brain fart : ) I bet you I can find a misquote even from an oxford scholar at some point in their life!

[Arborealus]

For Winnow: http://mp3.dubyaspeak.com/foolmeonce.mp3

Bush forgot a saying? That's like criticizing Bush Sr because he accidentally said November 7th instead of December 7th once for the Pearl Harbor anniversary date. It happens.

Jumping on misquotes of this type are about as desparate as you can get to try and convince yourself of something.

Bush admitted he's not going to rank at the top of the class when it comes to being some sort of an Oxford english master of the language.

yeah can't win...will win...that takes an oxford scholar to differentiate...

It was a brain fart : ) I bet you I can find a misquote even from an oxford scholar at some point in their life!

I can indeed...here and there...with W however...it's the norm not "a misquote"...