Gore

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

You're a sad, sad little man, Midnyte. I hope you don't raise your daughters in a setting of hate.

[archeiron]

Miir, my freedom of speech does give me that exact right. I can say whatever the fuck I want, I just have to be prepared to reep the consequences for the words. No different than Carlos Delgado refusing to go out on the field and stand for the national anthem before a baseball game at Yankee Stadium. He has that right, but he has to be prepared to suffer the consequences of people thinking he is an ungrateful piece of shit.

Some of you people use the 1st amendment phrase way too fucking much. You can't just throw that out there to justify everything. Your narrow-mindedness is scary.

*chuckle* Damn, foiled again by the pesky quote functionality. It's ok, Midnyte, I won't hold it against you.

[Pherr the Dorf]

Pssst Mid, answer the question perhaps?

You didn't listen to it did you? Words are words, a speech is not just a set of words, it's something you either pour yourself into and pull off well, something you do ok at or something you blow chunks at, tonight Gore was a different man, the speech was brilliant.

That was a stupid question Pherr, its Midnyte were talking about, he dont listen

This is why it is impossible to hold an intelligent conversation here. ou already have it all figured out.

So answer my question earlier, did you watch the speech before you posted, or no?[/quote]

[Chmee]

When your 'speech' is hate filled rhetoric, it is not protected.

Yes it is. I may disagree with his statement, but it would fall under the first amendment's protection if the government tried to suppress it.

[Pherr the Dorf]

Both situations a cop is standing in front of you

Protected- I think all cops should die

Not Protected- I think you (pointing to cop) should die

Either one will get your ass hauled in but only the latter holds up enough to be prosecuted for

[masteen]

What about saying "I wish you would die!" to a cop?

[Pherr the Dorf]

What about saying "I wish you would die!" to a cop?

I wish you would die-busted
I wish cops would die- covered

You cannot direct it at an indiviual, this is where the weird part about people in office come into play, we only have one president so either way you say it you are referring to the individual.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Pssst Mid, answer the question perhaps?

You didn't listen to it did you? Words are words, a speech is not just a set of words, it's something you either pour yourself into and pull off well, something you do ok at or something you blow chunks at, tonight Gore was a different man, the speech was brilliant.

That was a stupid question Pherr, its Midnyte were talking about, he dont listen

This is why it is impossible to hold an intelligent conversation here. ou already have it all figured out.

So answer my question earlier, did you watch the speech before you posted, or no?

[/quote]

I'm sorry, but was the topic started with a link to the video of his speech or quotes from his speech? Answer that retard.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Miir, my freedom of speech does give me that exact right. I can say whatever the fuck I want, I just have to be prepared to reep the consequences for the words. No different than Carlos Delgado refusing to go out on the field and stand for the national anthem before a baseball game at Yankee Stadium. He has that right, but he has to be prepared to suffer the consequences of people thinking he is an ungrateful piece of shit.

Some of you people use the 1st amendment phrase way too fucking much. You can't just throw that out there to justify everything. Your narrow-mindedness is scary.

Pwned? nah. Proving a point? Aye.

Were you subtly pwned? Most definitely.

You're catching on pee-brain....you're catching on.

[Lynks]

Miir, my freedom of speech does give me that exact right. I can say whatever the fuck I want, I just have to be prepared to reep the consequences for the words. No different than Carlos Delgado refusing to go out on the field and stand for the national anthem before a baseball game at Yankee Stadium. He has that right, but he has to be prepared to suffer the consequences of people thinking he is an ungrateful piece of shit.

Some of you people use the 1st amendment phrase way too fucking much. You can't just throw that out there to justify everything. Your narrow-mindedness is scary.

Pwned? nah. Proving a point? Aye.

Were you subtly pwned? Most definitely.

You're catching on pee-brain....you're catching on.

I wasn't trying to "pwn you", I was merely stating a fact that you are a hipocryte.

As for the question you keep dodging it, although I'm pretty sure its "no", answer it you narrow-minded bigot.

Edit: What point were you trying to prove? Or is the reason you said that because you realized how much of a douche you really are so you decided to backpedal out of it.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Best speech of the night, where the hell was that guy 4 years ago when his cardboard twin was running for president. Yes these quotes are pure politics, but man, caustic wit, he was at his best

To the moderates and republicans

I sincerely ask those watching at home who supported President Bush four years ago, did you really get what you expected from the candidate you voted for? Has the promise of compassionate conservatism been fulfilled? Or do those words ring hollow now?

For that matter, are the economic policies really conservative at all? Did you expect, for example, the largest deficits in history? ... And the loss of a million jobs?

To the far left Nader folks

Do you still believe there was no difference between the candidates?
Are you troubled by the erosion of some of America's most basic civil liberties?

Are you worried that our environmental laws are being weakened and dismantled to allow vast increases in pollution that are contributing to a global climate crisis?

Himself

I don't lie awake at night counting and recounting sheep

I was the first one laid off, and while it's true that new jobs are being created, they're just not as good as the jobs people have lost. And incidentally, that's been true for me, too

But you know the old saying: You win some, you lose some. And then there's that little-known third category.

I prefer to focus on the future because I know from my own experience that America is a land of opportunity, where every little boy and girl has a chance to grow up and win the popular vote

All in all, it was an inspired speech for a politician, he had the chance to set the tone for the prime time coverage on the convention, and amazingly he stepped up and hit the long ball politically speaking. (mind you we are speaking of politicians and their ability to twist the truth, it was a political speech, I am speaking of the wit, the message to specific sectors of the population and actual passion that was present, this is Al Gore we are speaking of)

Does it say here, "please only comment if you have watched the speech. Please do not comment based on these quotes from his speech."?

The answer is no jackass. Stop deverting the attention away from me with your bullshit. Grow up .

[Pherr the Dorf]

Best speech of the night, where the hell was that guy 4 years ago when his cardboard twin was running for president. Yes these quotes are pure politics, but man, caustic wit, he was at his best

To the moderates and republicans

I sincerely ask those watching at home who supported President Bush four years ago, did you really get what you expected from the candidate you voted for? Has the promise of compassionate conservatism been fulfilled? Or do those words ring hollow now?

For that matter, are the economic policies really conservative at all? Did you expect, for example, the largest deficits in history? ... And the loss of a million jobs?

To the far left Nader folks

Do you still believe there was no difference between the candidates?
Are you troubled by the erosion of some of America's most basic civil liberties?

Are you worried that our environmental laws are being weakened and dismantled to allow vast increases in pollution that are contributing to a global climate crisis?

Himself

I don't lie awake at night counting and recounting sheep

I was the first one laid off, and while it's true that new jobs are being created, they're just not as good as the jobs people have lost. And incidentally, that's been true for me, too

But you know the old saying: You win some, you lose some. And then there's that little-known third category.

I prefer to focus on the future because I know from my own experience that America is a land of opportunity, where every little boy and girl has a chance to grow up and win the popular vote

All in all, it was an inspired speech for a politician, he had the chance to set the tone for the prime time coverage on the convention, and amazingly he stepped up and hit the long ball politically speaking. (mind you we are speaking of politicians and their ability to twist the truth, it was a political speech, I am speaking of the wit, the message to specific sectors of the population and actual passion that was present, this is Al Gore we are speaking of)

Does it say here, "please only comment if you have watched the speech. Please do not comment based on these quotes from his speech."?

The answer is no jackass. Stop deverting the attention away from me with your bullshit. Grow up .

Psst Brainiac, if you are going to comment on a SPEECH it is best to have SEEN said speech. Most people avoid commenting on things they didn't see firsthand to avoid making a dipshit of themselves

You didn't listen to it did you? Words are words, a speech is not just a set of words, it's something you either pour yourself into and pull off well, something you do ok at or something you blow chunks at, tonight Gore was a different man, the speech was brilliant.

That was a stupid question Pherr, its Midnyte were talking about, he dont listen

This is why it is impossible to hold an intelligent conversation here. ou already have it all figured out.

Apparently he DID have it figured out correctly

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Nope. You posted those statements he made. My comments are based off those quotes. Nothing more, nothing less. You desire to read more into it and confuse the issue. But hey, that's your thing.

[Pherr the Dorf]

Nope. You posted those statements he made. My comments are based off those quotes. Nothing more, nothing less. You desire to read more into it and confuse the issue. But hey, that's your thing.

Next time I discuss a speech that can be watched on the front page of EVERY news agency out there, one you have to avoid rather then search for, I will make sure to link it for you and pay someone to come over and hold your hand to help. I will say this much Mid, you are at least honest to a fault, but seriously if someone is discussing a speech that you could easily watch without any sort of difficulty, one that would only take about 12 minutes of your time, before commenting on it, watch it, you might find things in there to rip apart and actually have a decent arguement, I can assure you I would expect no less from any free thinking individual, Winnow is a great example, I really do like Winnow, agree with, well no, but I can at least say Winnow brings something, hell OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS even, to the table simply by being informed as much as possible. I promise if you find any speech in the Repub convention interesting in any way, I will have listened to it in order to respond to it intelligently instead of simply wiping it aside as irrelevant.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

I never said Gore's speech was bad. Based on the quotes you posted of his speech, is more than enough to show it was filled with the usual bullshit, lies, and propaganda.....but, polished in a newer, sleeker packaging.

[Kelshara]

Quote first post:

I am speaking of the wit, the message to specific sectors of the population and actual passion that was present, this is Al Gore we are speaking of)

Obviously it was a post made after actually watching the speech and how it was delivered as much as the actual words.

[Thess]

Vice-President Al Gore

Friends, fellow Democrats, fellow Americans: I'll be candid with you. I had hoped to be back here this week under different circumstances, running for re-election.

But you know the old saying: you win some, you lose some. And then there's that little-known third category. I didn't come here tonight to talk about the past. After all, I don't want you to think I lie awake at night counting and recounting sheep. I prefer to focus on the future because I know from my own experience that America is a land of opportunity, where every little boy and girl has a chance to grow up and win the popular vote.

In all seriousness, I am deeply grateful for the opportunity you have given me to serve America. I want to thank you as Democrats for the honor of being your nominee for president four years ago. And I want to thank the American people for the privilege of serving as vice-president.

And most of all, I want to thank my family with all my heart-my children and grandchildren, and especially my beloved partner in life, Tipper.

I love this country deeply, and even though I always look to the future with optimism and hope-I do think it is worth pausing for just a moment as we begin this year's convention, to take note of two very important lessons from four years ago.

The first lesson is this: take it from me-every vote counts. In our Democracy, every vote has power. And never forget: that power is yours. Don't let anyone take it away or talk you into throwing it away. And let's make sure that this time every vote is counted.

Let's make sure not only that the Supreme Court does not pick the next President, but also that this President is not the one who picks the next Supreme Court.

The second lesson from 2000 is this: what happens in a presidential election matters. A lot. The outcome profoundly affects the lives of all 293 million Americans-and people in the rest of the world too. The choice of who is president affects your life and your family's future.

And never has this been more true than in 2004, because-let's face it-our country faces deep challenges. These challenges we now confront are not Democratic or Republican challenges; they are American challenges-that we all must overcome together.

It is in that spirit, that I sincerely ask those watching at home who supported President Bush four years ago: did you really get what you expected from the candidate you voted for?

Is our country more united today? Or more divided?

Has the promise of compassionate conservatism been fulfilled? Or do those words now ring hollow?

For that matter, are the economic policies really conservative at all? Did you expect, for example, the largest deficits in history? One after another? And the loss of more than a million jobs?

By the way, I know about the bad economy. I was the first one laid off. And while it's true that new jobs are being created, they're just not as good as the jobs people have lost. And incidentally, that's been true for me too. Unfortunately, this is no joke for millions of Americans. And the real solutions require us to transcend partisanship.

So that's one reason why, even though we meet here as Democrats, we believe this is a time to reach beyond our party lines to Republicans as well.

I also ask tonight for the help of those who supported a third party candidate in 2000. I urge you to ask yourselves this question: do you still believe that there was no difference between the candidates? Are you troubled by the erosion of some of America's most basic civil liberties? Are you worried that our environmental laws are being weakened and dismantled to allow vast increases in pollution that are contributing to a global climate crisis? No matter how you voted in the last election, these are profound problems that all voters must take into account this November 2d.

And of course, no challenge is more critical than the situation we confront in Iraq. Regardless of your opinion at the beginning of this war, isn't it now obvious that the way the war has been managed by the Administration has gotten us into very serious trouble? Wouldn't we be better off with a new President who hasn't burned his bridges to our allies, and who could rebuild respect for America in the world? Isn't cooperation with other nations crucial to solving our dilemma in Iraq? Isn't it also critical to defeating the terrorists?

We have to be crystal clear about the threat we face from terrorism. It is deadly. It is real. It is imminent. But in order to protect our people, shouldn't we focus on the real source of this threat: the group that attacked us and is trying to attack us again-al Qaeda, headed by Osama Bin Laden?

Wouldn't we be safer with a President who didn't insist on confusing al Qaeda with Iraq? Doesn't that divert too much of our attention away from the principal danger?

I want to say to all Americans this evening that whether it is the threat to the global environment or the erosion of America's leadership in the world, whether it is the challenge to our economy from new competitors or the challenge to our security from new enemies, I believe that we need new leadership that is both strong and wise.

And we can have new leadership, because one of our greatest strengths as a democracy is that when we are headed in the wrong direction, we can correct our course. When policies are clearly not working, we can change them. If our leaders make mistakes, we can hold them accountable-even if they never admit their mistakes. I firmly believe America needs new leadership that will make us stronger at home and respected in the world.

We are here this week to present to the nation the man who should be our new president: John Kerry.

John and I were elected to the US Senate on the same day 20 years ago and I have worked closely with him for all that time. So I want to say a personal word about John Kerry the man.

He is a friend who will stand by you. His word is his bond. He has a deep patriotism that goes far beyond words. He has devoted his life to making America a better place for all of us. He showed uncommon heroism on the battlefield in Vietnam. I watched him show that same courage on the Senate floor. He had the best record of protecting the environment against polluters of any of my colleagues-bar none.

He never shied away from a fight, no matter how powerful the foe. He was never afraid to take on difficult and thankless issues that few others wanted to touch-like exposing the threat of narcoterrorism and tracing the sources of terrorist financing. He was one of the very first in our party to take on the issue of drastic deficit reduction. He has developed a tough and thoughtful plan to restore our economic strength and fiscal discipline.

To put it simply, those of us who have worked with John know that he has the courage, integrity and leadership to be a truly great President of the United States.

And he showed wisdom in his very first decision as the leader of our party-when he picked as his running mate an inspiring fighter for middle class families and families struggling to reach the middle class: John Edwards.

John Kerry and John Edwards are fighting for us and for all Americans, so after we nominate them here in Boston and return to our home states across this land, we have to fight for them. Talk to your friends and neighbors, go to "JohnKerry.com," raise money, register voters and get them to the polls, volunteer your time, and above all: make your vote count.

To those of you who felt disappointed or angry with the outcome in 2000, I want you to remember all of those feelings. But then I want you to do with them what I have done: focus them fully and completely on putting John Kerry and John Edwards in the White House.

Fellow Democrats, when I look out and see so many friends who have meant so much to me in my own public service, my heart is full tonight. I thank you for all the love you've shown Tipper and me. You will forever be in our hearts.

There's someone else I'd like to thank, and that's the man who asked me to join him on the ticket at our convention 12 years ago, my friend-and my partner for eight years-President Bill Clinton. I'll never forget that convention or that campaign-the way we barnstormed the country, carrying a message of hope and change, believing with our whole hearts that America could be made new again.

And so it was. And with your help, and with the leadership of John Kerry and John Edwards, so it shall be again.

Thank you-God bless you and your families-and may God bless the United States of America.

That is a full transcript of his speech. Video can be found as well as other transcripts at http://www.dems2004.org/

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Thank you Thess.

But you know the old saying: you win some, you lose some. And then there's that little-known third category.

Nope. You lost.

I didn't come here tonight to talk about the past.

You just did.

After all, I don't want you to think I lie awake at night counting and recounting sheep. I prefer to focus on the future because I know from my own experience that America is a land of opportunity, where every little boy and girl has a chance to grow up and win the popular vote.

That's great and all, but you have to win the electoral vote to win.

In all seriousness, I am deeply grateful for the opportunity you have given me to serve America. I want to thank you as Democrats for the honor of being your nominee for president four years ago. And I want to thank the American people for the privilege of serving as vice-president.

And most of all, I want to thank my family with all my heart-my children and grandchildren, and especially my beloved partner in life, Tipper.

Very nice.

I love this country deeply, and even though I always look to the future with optimism and hope-I do think it is worth pausing for just a moment as we begin this year's convention, to take note of two very important lessons from four years ago.

The first lesson is this: take it from me-every vote counts. In our Democracy, every vote has power. And never forget: that power is yours. Don't let anyone take it away or talk you into throwing it away. And let's make sure that this time every vote is counted.

Here we are, back in the past again.

Let's make sure not only that the Supreme Court does not pick the next President, but also that this President is not the one who picks the next Supreme Court.

Well hello past. I do love this Dem favorite distortion of the past. If I recall correctly the supreme court voted to stop the recounting because of the very subjective nature it could be viewed, due to the retarded Florida voters.

The second lesson from 2000 is this: what happens in a presidential election matters. A lot. The outcome profoundly affects the lives of all 293 million Americans-and people in the rest of the world too. The choice of who is president affects your life and your family's future.

Not only from 2000. But, most itelligent people knew already that who you pick for your president matters as to the future of your country.

And never has this been more true than in 2004, because-let's face it-our country faces deep challenges. These challenges we now confront are not Democratic or Republican challenges; they are American challenges-that we all must overcome together.

About damn time we hear some non-partisan, all for one and one for all, talk coming from the Dems.

It is in that spirit, that I sincerely ask those watching at home who supported President Bush four years ago: did you really get what you expected from the candidate you voted for?

I did.

Is our country more united today? Or more divided?

More divided, thanks to the Dems and the media.

Has the promise of compassionate conservatism been fulfilled? Or do those words now ring hollow?

I wonder what the new bullshit dictionary says that term even means.

For that matter, are the economic policies really conservative at all? Did you expect, for example, the largest deficits in history? One after another? And the loss of more than a million jobs?

Did you expect an attack on 9/11 and 2 wars to follow?

By the way, I know about the bad economy. I was the first one laid off. And while it's true that new jobs are being created, they're just not as good as the jobs people have lost. And incidentally, that's been true for me too. Unfortunately, this is no joke for millions of Americans. And the real solutions require us to transcend partisanship.

Just not as good eh? Excellent way to spin a pro into a con.

I also ask tonight for the help of those who supported a third party candidate in 2000. I urge you to ask yourselves this question: do you still believe that there was no difference between the candidates?

Nope. The Dems made sure to cause a huge seperation between the two parties, while dividing America as well.

Are you troubled by the erosion of some of America's most basic civil liberties?

I guess just by saying this over and over is works. Hehe. Which ones have been eroded again?

We have to be crystal clear about the threat we face from terrorism. It is deadly. It is real. It is imminent. But in order to protect our people, shouldn't we focus on the real source of this threat: the group that attacked us and is trying to attack us again-al Qaeda, headed by Osama Bin Laden?

Wouldn't we be safer with a President who didn't insist on confusing al Qaeda with Iraq? Doesn't that divert too much of our attention away from the principal danger?

Yes Michael Moore. Keep the lieing up. It is working. Just look at the people on these boards.



Okay that's enough. I'm tired. I just drove 5 hours to get home after a business meeting today.

I watched it as well. Very well presented. But, laiden with the usual bullshit.

[Xzion]

Thank you Thess.

But you know the old saying: you win some, you lose some. And then there's that little-known third category.

Nope. You lost.

I didn't come here tonight to talk about the past.

You just did.

After all, I don't want you to think I lie awake at night counting and recounting sheep. I prefer to focus on the future because I know from my own experience that America is a land of opportunity, where every little boy and girl has a chance to grow up and win the popular vote.

That's great and all, but you have to win the electoral vote to win.

In all seriousness, I am deeply grateful for the opportunity you have given me to serve America. I want to thank you as Democrats for the honor of being your nominee for president four years ago. And I want to thank the American people for the privilege of serving as vice-president.

And most of all, I want to thank my family with all my heart-my children and grandchildren, and especially my beloved partner in life, Tipper.

Very nice.

I love this country deeply, and even though I always look to the future with optimism and hope-I do think it is worth pausing for just a moment as we begin this year's convention, to take note of two very important lessons from four years ago.

The first lesson is this: take it from me-every vote counts. In our Democracy, every vote has power. And never forget: that power is yours. Don't let anyone take it away or talk you into throwing it away. And let's make sure that this time every vote is counted.

Here we are, back in the past again.

Let's make sure not only that the Supreme Court does not pick the next President, but also that this President is not the one who picks the next Supreme Court.

Well hello past. I do love this Dem favorite distortion of the past. If I recall correctly the supreme court voted to stop the recounting because of the very subjective nature it could be viewed, due to the retarded Florida voters.

The second lesson from 2000 is this: what happens in a presidential election matters. A lot. The outcome profoundly affects the lives of all 293 million Americans-and people in the rest of the world too. The choice of who is president affects your life and your family's future.

Not only from 2000. But, most itelligent people knew already that who you pick for your president matters as to the future of your country.

And never has this been more true than in 2004, because-let's face it-our country faces deep challenges. These challenges we now confront are not Democratic or Republican challenges; they are American challenges-that we all must overcome together.

About damn time we hear some non-partisan, all for one and one for all, talk coming from the Dems.

It is in that spirit, that I sincerely ask those watching at home who supported President Bush four years ago: did you really get what you expected from the candidate you voted for?

I did.

Is our country more united today? Or more divided?

More divided, thanks to the Dems and the media.

Has the promise of compassionate conservatism been fulfilled? Or do those words now ring hollow?

I wonder what the new bullshit dictionary says that term even means.

For that matter, are the economic policies really conservative at all? Did you expect, for example, the largest deficits in history? One after another? And the loss of more than a million jobs?

Did you expect an attack on 9/11 and 2 wars to follow?

By the way, I know about the bad economy. I was the first one laid off. And while it's true that new jobs are being created, they're just not as good as the jobs people have lost. And incidentally, that's been true for me too. Unfortunately, this is no joke for millions of Americans. And the real solutions require us to transcend partisanship.

Just not as good eh? Excellent way to spin a pro into a con.

I also ask tonight for the help of those who supported a third party candidate in 2000. I urge you to ask yourselves this question: do you still believe that there was no difference between the candidates?

Nope. The Dems made sure to cause a huge seperation between the two parties, while dividing America as well.

Are you troubled by the erosion of some of America's most basic civil liberties?

I guess just by saying this over and over is works. Hehe. Which ones have been eroded again?

We have to be crystal clear about the threat we face from terrorism. It is deadly. It is real. It is imminent. But in order to protect our people, shouldn't we focus on the real source of this threat: the group that attacked us and is trying to attack us again-al Qaeda, headed by Osama Bin Laden?

Wouldn't we be safer with a President who didn't insist on confusing al Qaeda with Iraq? Doesn't that divert too much of our attention away from the principal danger?

Yes Michael Moore. Keep the lieing up. It is working. Just look at the people on these boards.



Okay that's enough. I'm tired. I just drove 5 hours to get home after a business meeting today.

I watched it as well. Very well presented. But, laiden with the usual bullshit.

This post remined me of something i think George Bush said about gay marriage or something like that.

"this issue should be decided by the american people, not the courts"
As I believe the president should.

(i supported Bush over Gore four years ago) and Bush did loose the electoral vote, as he won florida, in the popular vote.

[Kelgar]

Indeed. It takes two intelligent people to have a conversation. As long as Midnyte is involved in that equation you're out of luck!

Exactly. Midnyte is the only person that I've never met that I have a burning desire to just beat the living shit out of. No scratch that. But one good kick square in the nuts would suffice. He's not worth the pain in my nuckles to beat the shit out of.

Hate/anger actually causes chemical inbalances which are detrimental to your overall health (much like stress). The act of getting worked up over an imbecile such as Midnyte is, in itself, an act of stupidity which rivals the retarded shit that comes out of his mouth. A much healthier alternative is laughter. There's no shortage of things about his pathetic existence not to laugh about. Go to town and cheers to your health.

edit: forgot 2 fucking letters

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Indeed. It takes two intelligent people to have a conversation. As long as Midnyte is involved in that equation you're out of luck!

Exactly. Midnyte is the only person that I've never met that I have a burning desire to just beat the living shit out of. No scratch that. But one good kick square in the nuts would suffice. He's not worth the pain in my nuckles to beat the shit out of.

Hate/anger actually causes chemical inbalances which are detrimental to your overall health (much like stress). The act of getting worked up over an imbecile such as Midnyte is, in itself, an act stupidity which rivals the retarded shit that comes out of his mouth. A much healthier alternative is laughter. There's no shortage of things about his pathetic existence not to laugh about. Go to town and cheers to your health.

Well said.

[Dregor Thule]

Holy Moses, this is some stupid shit.

[Thess]

hahahahahahahaha

[Karae]

Indeed. It takes two intelligent people to have a conversation. As long as Midnyte is involved in that equation you're out of luck!

Exactly. Midnyte is the only person that I've never met that I have a burning desire to just beat the living shit out of. No scratch that. But one good kick square in the nuts would suffice. He's not worth the pain in my nuckles to beat the shit out of.

Hate/anger actually causes chemical inbalances which are detrimental to your overall health (much like stress). The act of getting worked up over an imbecile such as Midnyte is, in itself, an act stupidity which rivals the retarded shit that comes out of his mouth. A much healthier alternative is laughter. There's no shortage of things about his pathetic existence not to laugh about. Go to town and cheers to your health.

Well said.

ROFLMAO. Even Midnyte agrees that he's a stupid motherfucker.

[Canelek]

Some of the shit I see here.... good god please don't judge Republicans like some of those that post this crap. Many of us actually have far more liberal views than the hardcore righty. I do enjoy a good political discussion, but when I hear shit like 'fuck muslims', etc. I cringe.

Ok, I make a pretty decent living. I worked my ass of to get where I am, but I am still far from where I want to be. I disagree with many Democrat views, but still try and see the whole picture(OK, I am guilty of flying off the handle a few times, but that is more a personallity flaw than anything).

I do think that GW has done some good, but he is a terrible speaker and godawful and foreign diplomacy. I think Kerry is a waffler. I think Gore and his censorship gang are destined to get eaten by rabid hyenas.

If there was only someone with the charisma of JFK and the foreign diplomacy of Reagan. That ain't gonna happen soon, but here's to hoping...


What is my point? Fuck, I don't know, I am drinking beer.

PS: Oh yeah:

I want my guns
I want most of my paycheck
I want to fish in an area with no litter
I want to see trees
I want to breathe clean air, and dirty it up with cigarette smoke
I want to se the mountains without a veil of smog
I want future generations to enjoy the environment as well
I want to meet a woman who likes football.

[Karae]

Some of the shit I see here.... good god please don't judge Republicans like some of those that post this crap.

Why not? They're no different than the hypocrites running for office. I certainly wouldn't dislike anyone because they were a Republican, but the majority of the people the party is putting up for office are self-serving, bigoted hypocrites. To be honest, I think the Republican Party is almost as divergent from the core philosophies of most Republicans as it is divergent from the core philosophies of most Democrats.

I make a very distinct differentiation between most Republicans and the current Republican idealogy. I find it hard to believe that the "Bush Plan" represents - either idealogically or secularly - even more than half of the Republican Party. I'd certainly be very sad if more than 5% of the Republican party supported warmongering, fucking over the poor, and extreme deficit spending.

As much as I despise Bush and those on this board that blindly support him, I refuse to believe that he, and they, are representative of the Republican Party. The most registered Republicans cannot be that fucked up.

[Thess]

The act of getting worked up over an imbecile such as Midnyte is, in itself, an act stupidity which rivals the retarded shit that comes out of his mouth. A much healthier alternative is laughter. There's no shortage of things about his pathetic existence not to laugh about.

Once again, I am assuming Midnyte is not as stupid as he posts(Of course everytime I have assumed this - I have by him been proven wrong). I am assuming he read the first and last line of Kelgar's post - and then wrote "Well said."

So I quoted Kelgar, and took off his first and last line - hoping Midnyte would realise how idiotic saying 'well said' was.

[Pherr the Dorf]

Some of the shit I see here.... good god please don't judge Republicans like some of those that post this crap. Many of us actually have far more liberal views than the hardcore righty. I do enjoy a good political discussion, but when I hear shit like 'fuck muslims', etc. I cringe.

Ok, I make a pretty decent living. I worked my ass of to get where I am, but I am still far from where I want to be. I disagree with many Democrat views, but still try and see the whole picture(OK, I am guilty of flying off the handle a few times, but that is more a personallity flaw than anything).

I do think that GW has done some good, but he is a terrible speaker and godawful and foreign diplomacy. I think Kerry is a waffler. I think Gore and his censorship gang are destined to get eaten by rabid hyenas.

If there was only someone with the charisma of JFK and the foreign diplomacy of Reagan. That ain't gonna happen soon, but here's to hoping...


What is my point? Fuck, I don't know, I am drinking beer.

PS: Oh yeah:

I want my guns
I want most of my paycheck
I want to fish in an area with no litter
I want to see trees
I want to breathe clean air, and dirty it up with cigarette smoke
I want to se the mountains without a veil of smog
I want future generations to enjoy the environment as well
I want to meet a woman who likes football.

I want my guns...me too
I want most of my paycheck...deficit spending must be paid at some point
I want to fish in an area with no litter...you happy with Bush on this
I want to see trees... see above
I want to breathe clean air, and dirty it up with cigarette smoke... again
I want to se the mountains without a veil of smog...once more
I want future generations to enjoy the environment as well... yep, again
I want to meet a woman who likes football. Don't we ALL my man

I rail against Bush a lot, and for good reason. This election is a crossroads and while a lot of people say until kerry shows me a reason not to vote for Bush I will vote for him, Bush has shown me plenty of reasons to earn nothing but my scorn. With the things you listed above, you really gonna vote for Bush?

[Karae]

I want my guns
I want most of my paycheck
I want to fish in an area with no litter
I want to see trees
I want to breathe clean air, and dirty it up with cigarette smoke
I want to se the mountains without a veil of smog
I want future generations to enjoy the environment as well
I want to meet a woman who likes football.

Kerry supports the second amendment.
Kerry not only supports (I'm assuming you're not fantasically rich) less tax burden on the poor/middle class, he plans to raise the minimum wage to $7.00/hr.
Bush has enacted several policies to chop more trees down, Kerry is infinitely better on environmental policies.
Read above.
Read above.
Read above.
Football blows. I only watch sports with more than 10 minutes of action per hour. (ok that one is biased)

I can't really tell, but if you are actually a Republican, why? From what you posted about what is near and dear to you, you much more clearly identify with Democrats.

[Canelek]

Are you telling me that you actually voted for Gore? That guy was just a fiogurehead for the most horrific band of censorship jackasses that have ever run for office.

Yes, GW is a retard.

But seriously, you honestly voted for a group of people that were adamantly(sp) against freedom of speech?


Do a Search on 'PMRC'

Yeah, GW sucks, but really....Gore is a simple minded fool compared to the idiot we currently have in office.

[Pherr the Dorf]

Are you telling me that you actually voted for Gore? That guy was just a fiogurehead for the most horrific band of censorship jackasses that have ever run for office.

Yes, GW is a retard.

But seriously, you honestly voted for a group of people that were adamantly(sp) against freedom of speech?


Do a Search on 'PMRC'

Yeah, GW sucks, but really....Gore is a simple minded fool compared to the idiot we currently have in office.

The issue is this round Can, who you gonna vote for given the things that are important to you that you listed

[Canelek]

Are you telling me that you actually voted for Gore? That guy was just a fiogurehead for the most horrific band of censorship jackasses that have ever run for office.

Yes, GW is a retard.

But seriously, you honestly voted for a group of people that were adamantly(sp) against freedom of speech?


Do a Search on 'PMRC'

Yeah, GW sucks, but really....Gore is a simple minded fool compared to the idiot we currently have in office.

The issue is this round Can, who you gonna vote for given the things that are important to you that you listed

Undecided at this point, Pherr, undecided. It is a sad state of affairs.

[Karae]

Are you telling me that you actually voted for Gore? That guy was just a fiogurehead for the most horrific band of censorship jackasses that have ever run for office.

Yes, GW is a retard.

But seriously, you honestly voted for a group of people that were adamantly(sp) against freedom of speech?


Do a Search on 'PMRC'

Yeah, GW sucks, but really....Gore is a simple minded fool compared to the idiot we currently have in office.

Have you been following the FCC lately at all? When did "free speech zones" come into being? I did not personally vote for Gore, but to insinuate that he is worse than Bush on free speece is an act of unbelievable stupidity.

[Kelgar]

ooops...nm

[Xzion]

Are you telling me that you actually voted for Gore? That guy was just a fiogurehead for the most horrific band of censorship jackasses that have ever run for office.

Yes, GW is a retard.

But seriously, you honestly voted for a group of people that were adamantly(sp) against freedom of speech?


Do a Search on 'PMRC'

Yeah, GW sucks, but really....Gore is a simple minded fool compared to the idiot we currently have in office.

Have you been following the FCC lately at all? When did "free speech zones" come into being? I did not personally vote for Gore, but to insinuate that he is worse than Bush on free speece is an act of unbelievable stupidity.

Lieberman is worse then Bush on free speech, and Gores wife. I dont think Gore himself ever made it a huge issue, but he sure surrounded himself with people who did.
Hell, four years ago I thought of Bush as someone who would be a moderate and the Gore admin as a league of Conservative Democrates
...was i wrong

[kyoukan]

Are you telling me that you actually voted for Gore? That guy was just a fiogurehead for the most horrific band of censorship jackasses that have ever run for office.

to date the PMRC has censored exactly nothing. their biggest contribution to regulating the media has been that black and white parental advisory stamp on albums.

I would rather have a president who supports laws keeping my kid from buying the latest 50 cent album over one who gleefully takes away basic civil rights and gives shady "law enforcement" agencies carte blanche to spy on every aspect of my professional and pesonal life without any justification.

but then I am one of those freakish librawls, and things like personal freedoms and basic rights for everybody regardless of race or social status is kind of important. if you're a male and white I can see why it might not be high on the list for you.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

I would rather have a president who supports laws keeping my kid from buying the latest 50 cent album over one who gleefully takes away basic civil rights and gives shady "law enforcement" agencies carte blanche to spy on every aspect of my professional and pesonal life without any justification.
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If this were true, I'd agree with you. Fortunately, only those who are doing illegal things have to worry about the Patriot Act.

[Kelshara]

Not at all. It might just be an inconvenience and an invasion of privacy for those of us who don't do anything illegal, but that is still more than I am interested in giving up. If you are fine with giving up all your privacy then be my guest.. just make sure to not hide anything in your pizza boxes!

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Not at all. It might just be an inconvenience and an invasion of privacy for those of us who don't do anything illegal, but that is still more than I am interested in giving up. If you are fine with giving up all your privacy then be my guest.. just make sure to not hide anything in your pizza boxes!

You and many other say this over and over. Can you name what privacy I have lost?