I'm voting for Bush because...

Mezzdat · Post by **Mezzdat** » July 1, 2004, 11:55 am

Lately I've been hearing some really stupid ass reasons why people are going to try and re-elect our current shit pile back into office. Here are a few that pissed me off more than others.

- I'm a Republican, I have to vote Republican.
- My dad would roll in his grave if he knew I didn't vote Republican.
- Kerry looks like a corpse.
- He got Saddam didn't he?
- What if Kerry was in office on 9/11, he'd have done nothing!

Have you heard any great reasons such as this why people want to put the double digit IQ dumbass back in?

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » July 1, 2004, 11:57 am

1: Think this might suit better in current events.
2: I'm voting for Bush because I don't think Kerry could do a better job. If there was any realistic third choice between the two, I'd gladly vote for that person.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » July 1, 2004, 12:05 pm

Because he stood on a chair and ordered me a martini!

p.s. hi sir

))

Post by **Xouqoa** » July 1, 2004, 12:20 pm

Akaran_D wrote:2: I'm voting for Bush because I don't think Kerry could do a better job. If there was any realistic third choice between the two, I'd gladly vote for that person.

Instead of voting for Bush because you think Kerry couldn't do a better job, why don't you vote for Kerry because you think he couldn't do any worse of a job than Bush?

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » July 1, 2004, 12:28 pm

Better the devil you know than the devil you don't..

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 1, 2004, 12:31 pm

Hey I said that about Saddam and got laughed at

The general comments from the Repubs were "A chance for change!"

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » July 1, 2004, 12:38 pm

touche

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » July 1, 2004, 12:55 pm

Im doing it just to piss off 90% of the VV community

Squegy · Post by **Squegy** » July 1, 2004, 1:04 pm

most people hate bush because the news makes more money making him look like a jack ass. fuck off if you dont agree with me i dont care.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » July 1, 2004, 1:31 pm

Squegy wrote:most people hate bush because the news makes more money making him look like a jack ass. fuck off if you dont agree with me i dont care.

then why post?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 1, 2004, 2:51 pm

Kerry very well could do a worse job than Bush. The "he couldn't be any worse" campaign isn't going to get Bush out of office. His approval numbers are going up BTW!

The only thing that may get Kerry elected is if Hillary agrees to be his running mate. It all depends on her lust for power and whether she thinks holding off until 2008 is better for her own needs. These politicians don't give a crap about our country, it's all about jockeying for position.

If I was Hillary, I'd wait until 2008 to run, turn down the VP offer, discredit Kerry, and secretly boost Nader to influence the election. Bush being re-elected is key for her clean shot at the presidency in 2008.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » July 1, 2004, 2:55 pm

There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.

Wisdom that would be well applied in November.

Llaffer · Post by **Llaffer** » July 1, 2004, 3:00 pm

I wonder how many people realize that if Hillary wants to run in '08, Bush needs to win '04.

You really thing she's that dumb to run against a Democratic emcumbant?

nm .. maybe she is

Bush as my vote in '04. And it isn't to benefit Hillary.

Mezzdat · Post by **Mezzdat** » July 1, 2004, 3:12 pm

His approval numbers are going up BTW!

That's the only way they can go at this point... The sole fact that Bush is mentally on par with an eleven year old is what sold it for me.

Mezzdat · Post by **Mezzdat** » July 1, 2004, 3:15 pm

most people hate bush because the news makes more money making him look like a jack ass. fuck off if you dont agree with me i dont care.

Ya... not so much. He does a good enough job of making himself look like a jackass without the media doing much of anything. Moore doesn't even have to splice his quotes together, what does that tell you?

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » July 1, 2004, 4:20 pm

This really isn't a current event. If we had a politics only forum then maybe there.

Reasons for voting for Bush? They are about the same for me as they are for voting for Kerry. Meaning, I am undecided and will probably flip a coin in the booth.

Mezzdat · Post by **Mezzdat** » July 1, 2004, 4:26 pm

Hrm, that's why they call it General Discussion smart guy. With the release of Moores new movie, and elections coming in less than half a year I'd say it's not only current, but it's right on time. Thanks tho.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 1, 2004, 6:16 pm

Akaran_D wrote:Better the devil you know than the devil you don't..

You dont know if the devil you dont know might not be a devil but you know that the devil you do know is a devil, so hell its more then worth taking a chance

Worst thing Kerry can do is give us back some social freedom, put a hault to the censorship crusade, bring a stop to the religious right, and restrengthen alligances that have been obliterated by the Bush admin.

sweetkastings · Post by **sweetkastings** » July 1, 2004, 10:11 pm

go see farinheit 9/11 it made my dad change his mind from bush to kerry

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » July 1, 2004, 10:34 pm

Ok, having Sweet tell me to go see the movie is enough to make sure I never, ever will.

sweetkastings · Post by **sweetkastings** » July 1, 2004, 11:58 pm

surely you can trust me to go to the movies then again ...BTW i didnt go to the movies with my dad (perverts)

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » July 1, 2004, 11:59 pm

....
you're a lost cause.

Karae · Post by **Karae** » July 2, 2004, 12:09 am

Mezzdat wrote:- What if Kerry was in office on 9/11, he'd have done nothing!

How would that differ from what Bush did?

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 2, 2004, 9:17 am

Truant wrote:
Squegy wrote:most people hate bush because the news makes more money making him look like a jack ass. fuck off if you dont agree with me i dont care.
then why post?

See thread title

Siji · Post by **Siji** » July 2, 2004, 7:26 pm

There's three types of people that will vote for Bush in November:

1. Stupid people
2. Gullable people
3. Ignorant people

People too stupid to make a decision for themselves, and vote republican just because they're republican or because their spouse or family is. The same type of people that think it's appaling that a boob got shown on the superbowl for a fraction of a second, but have no problem with extremely violent or graphic television shows on for 30 minutes a night every night.

People so gullable that they believe all the propaganda that the Bush machine puts out and don't have a brain enought to question what's going on around them, and worse, those that think it's unpatriotic and wrong to do so.

People that are ignorant of everything that's been going on, what Bush has done with his policies and for his big money interests. Those that really on care that they haven't been affected by anything yet, so obviously everything must be okie dokie.

Llaffer · Post by **Llaffer** » July 3, 2004, 12:38 pm

Siji wrote:There's three types of people that will vote for Bush in November:

1. Stupid people
2. Gullable people
3. Ignorant people

Hmm .. I've always thought it was these same people who'll vote for Kerry.

Proctus · Post by **Proctus** » July 3, 2004, 4:16 pm

Anything to get Baby Powell out of the FCC office, I'm all for it.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 3, 2004, 5:14 pm

Siji wrote:There's three types of people that will vote for Bush in November:

1. Stupid people
2. Gullable people
3. Ignorant people

.

Theres also a few of these
4. People who realize Bush is a total fuck up, but are in a business related field and are going to vote for Bush only because they themselves benefit economically as republicans are more lenient when it comes to taxing the middle upper class and those running a medium size business to a large corporation

Avestan · Post by **Avestan** » July 3, 2004, 10:27 pm

I am voting for Bush because his (the republican) economic policy is suited to me and I believe will be far better for the country in the long run. I also think that while he may have his shortcomings, he is not a bullshitter. When he says he is going to do something, he does it. That is refreshing.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » July 4, 2004, 7:36 am

Llaffer wrote:
Siji wrote:There's three types of people that will vote for Bush in November:

1. Stupid people
2. Gullable people
3. Ignorant people
Hmm .. I've always thought it was these same people who'll vote for Kerry.

Hehe, if i read this right, over 80% of the american population (not counting those that cant vote because Bush deprived them of their right to vote at last election) aer stupid, gullible and ignorant, right?

Proctus · Post by **Proctus** » July 4, 2004, 8:33 am

Hesten wrote:
Llaffer wrote:
Siji wrote:There's three types of people that will vote for Bush in November:

1. Stupid people
2. Gullable people
3. Ignorant people
Hmm .. I've always thought it was these same people who'll vote for Kerry.
Hehe, if i read this right, over 80% of the american population (not counting those that cant vote because Bush deprived them of their right to vote at last election) aer stupid, gullible and ignorant, right?

Bush didn't win the popular vote, so you are wrong. Also, you are in Denmark, so STFU! =)

Karae · Post by **Karae** » July 5, 2004, 4:53 am

Llaffer wrote:
Siji wrote:There's three types of people that will vote for Bush in November:

1. Stupid people
2. Gullable people
3. Ignorant people
Hmm .. I've always thought it was these same people who'll vote for Kerry.

That's because you're a stupid, gullible, ignorant moron.

Ceffin · Post by **Ceffin** » July 5, 2004, 1:12 pm

well a few reasons make sense to vote bush

- he has a plan , hes carrying it out in iraq, yeah its not gonna be like picking daisies, nothing is when you have people strapping bombs to their chests in the name of allah

yes iraq is going to suck

If kerry comes in, with all his anti-iraq and ganks out our troops, that means the past 3 years or so of combat has now gone to shit

Kerry has all these "great ideas" , but its easy to theorize when you dont have people badmouthing every single thing you do, you have a shitfest in iraq, and people agree with you just because they dont like bush. Its easy to parade around and talk, but Bush actually goes through and does what hes says hes going to do.

I just dont think replacing Bush will help the situation anymore, we'll lose OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS more than we will if Kerry comes to office and re-does eveyrthing we've fought for.

I dont follow politics that much because its OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of bullshitting and what not but those are my thoughts right now

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » July 5, 2004, 1:31 pm

Karae wrote:
Llaffer wrote:
Siji wrote:There's three types of people that will vote for Bush in November:

1. Stupid people
2. Gullable people
3. Ignorant people
Hmm .. I've always thought it was these same people who'll vote for Kerry.
That's because you're a stupid, gullible, ignorant moron.

I guess this is somewhat correct. Many of the people who did vote for Bush were trying to vote for Gore but were too fucking ignorant to be able to punch the correct name. Go go democrats!

Melrin_Specclaster · Post by **Melrin_Specclaster** » July 6, 2004, 3:31 pm

I like Bush. He has the balls to say, I'm gonna kick your ass and actually do it. Complain about how he handled 9/11, but do you think Gore would have done better? I mean...could ANYBODY have handled 9/11 in a way that would have made everyone happy? Of course not. When was the last time a president had to handle something on par with 9/11? You think presidents have a handy book named 'How to handle terrorists attack on your soil'? For those that don't like Bush and how he's handled things, how would you suggest the following been handled?

a) 9/11
b) Terrorists abroad plotting attacks on your home soil
c) Foreign governments persuing nuclear weapons
d) Foreign governments/groups contributing to terrorists groups
e) The 'I hate the biggest kid on the block' syndrome
f) Dictator/terrorists that presidents before you funded

I mean, get off your damn high horses. If you can't see the bigger picture then you need to take your tunnel vision off to a subject thats a little simpler like 'which side to butter my bread on'. It's not that simple. Has he made Americans more liked? Maybe not, but how many of the people who are now 'openly' complaining about the US weren't already complaining privately? Sure, maybe Iraq wasn't necessary. Are Iraqis better off today? Depends on who you ask doesnt it? And it also depends which Iraqis. Iraq is 3 (also depending on who you ask) distinct groups of people living under one flag. To say Iraqis are worse off now is a very.....broad answer and also a very near sighted answer. To say they are all better off now is the same. Say you don't like a Texan whose grammar isn't 100 percent, but you do like comedians whose grammar isnt 50 percent. Say he's a bully, if your president was a pussy, you'd be complaining about that as well. Sitting presidents spend as much time dealing with what past presidents have done, than current problems.

Anyway, enough ranting for now.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 6, 2004, 4:58 pm

Melrin_Specclaster wrote:I like Bush. He has the balls to say, I'm gonna kick your ass and actually do it. Complain about how he handled 9/11, but do you think Gore would have done better? I mean...could ANYBODY have handled 9/11 in a way that would have made everyone happy? Of course not. When was the last time a president had to handle something on par with 9/11? You think presidents have a handy book named 'How to handle terrorists attack on your soil'? For those that don't like Bush and how he's handled things, how would you suggest the following been handled?

a) 9/11
b) Terrorists abroad plotting attacks on your home soil
c) Foreign governments persuing nuclear weapons
d) Foreign governments/groups contributing to terrorists groups
e) The 'I hate the biggest kid on the block' syndrome
f) Dictator/terrorists that presidents before you funded

I mean, get off your damn high horses. If you can't see the bigger picture then you need to take your tunnel vision off to a subject thats a little simpler like 'which side to butter my bread on'. It's not that simple. Has he made Americans more liked? Maybe not, but how many of the people who are now 'openly' complaining about the US weren't already complaining privately? Sure, maybe Iraq wasn't necessary. Are Iraqis better off today? Depends on who you ask doesnt it? And it also depends which Iraqis. Iraq is 3 (also depending on who you ask) distinct groups of people living under one flag. To say Iraqis are worse off now is a very.....broad answer and also a very near sighted answer. To say they are all better off now is the same. Say you don't like a Texan whose grammar isn't 100 percent, but you do like comedians whose grammar isnt 50 percent. Say he's a bully, if your president was a pussy, you'd be complaining about that as well. Sitting presidents spend as much time dealing with what past presidents have done, than current problems.

Anyway, enough ranting for now.

Regarding 911, if i was told that a 747 full of passengers crashed into the world trade center...i would have canciled my photo oportunity in florida to read books with little kids, and not proceed into the school anyways. Bush was then told of a second plane hitting the second world trade center, the fucking idiot sat there, in a classroom READING A FUCKING CHILDRENS BOOK FOR 10 MINUTES before he did or said anything regarding 911

that and instead of starting the failure that is Iraq, i would have concentrated on Afghanistan, which has more or less been abandoned, and tried to hunt down Al Qaeda, not nations such as Iraq that posed 0 threat to us.

Over 800 Americans have died unnecisarily becouse of George W Bush's admin

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 6, 2004, 5:15 pm

Xzion wrote:
Over 800 Americans have died unnecisarily becouse of George W Bush's admin

Bullshit.

That's as retarded as someone saying 911 was Clintons fault...wait a sec..that doesn't sound so bad. Thousands of americans died because Clinton was screwing around in the White House and dealing with pissed off family members instead of killing Osama.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 6, 2004, 5:21 pm

Get into your tiny little head that killing Osama will do nothing. Actually it might do less than nothing since it makes him a martyr.

Osama is just a figurehead. He doesn't plan, he doesn't lead.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 6, 2004, 5:39 pm

Kelshara wrote:Get into your tiny little head that killing Osama will do nothing. Actually it might do less than nothing since it makes him a martyr.

Osama is just a figurehead. He doesn't plan, he doesn't lead.

Hello Mr Clueless. I was using that as an example of how moronic saying Bush caused the lives of 800 people sounds.

OMG Bush was reading childrens books and didn't care about our country! If only he reacted sooner we would have shot down the rest of the planes!

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 6, 2004, 7:24 pm

Winnow wrote:
Xzion wrote:
Over 800 Americans have died unnecisarily becouse of George W Bush's admin
Bullshit.

That's as retarded as someone saying 911 was Clintons fault...wait a sec..that doesn't sound so bad. Thousands of americans died because Clinton was screwing around in the White House and dealing with pissed off family members instead of killing Osama.

How so?
If it wasnt for the Bush admin. Iraq would have never happened.

I wasnt referring to 911, heh that would have been a really moronic statement then

I dont think Bush did anything wrong in immideate response to the first 2-3 weeks of 911, but then came the patriot act, Iraq and domestic neoconservative authoritarianism on a level we havnt seen in several years

On an unrelated issue Bush should have never been reading fucking Childrens books after he heard about the 1st plane, since noone knew what could have or for that matter, did happen on that day

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 6, 2004, 8:24 pm

I find it as just more proof that Cheney is the real leader heh. Cheney is rushed off, Bush is left to read to children and only informed as an afterthought.

Mezzdat · Post by **Mezzdat** » July 7, 2004, 3:20 pm

Hello Mr Clueless. I was using that as an example of how moronic saying Bush caused the lives of 800 people sounds.

Well he did. "Let's invade a country daddy said was bad over a decade ago and is actually trying to rebuild a decent economy of thier own... We can blame them for something, right?"

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 7, 2004, 3:44 pm

Mezzdat wrote:
Hello Mr Clueless. I was using that as an example of how moronic saying Bush caused the lives of 800 people sounds.
Well he did. "Let's invade a country daddy said was bad over a decade ago and is actually trying to rebuild a decent economy of thier own... We can blame them for something, right?"

uh huh.

What exactly did Bush Sr do wrong besides not march to Bagdad and take out Saddam? Did he not put out the burning oil wells Saddam set ablaze in southern Iraq and Kuwait fast enough for you? Should he have let Iraq take over Kuwait and Saudi Arabia? I'm sure that would have stabilized the region and challenged Pax Romana for the longest stretch of peace ever.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » July 7, 2004, 3:57 pm

What exactly did Bush Sr do wrong besides not march to Bagdad and take out Saddam?

You're glossing over a pretty goddamn big mistake right there...

Thess · Post by **Thess** » July 7, 2004, 4:22 pm

George Bush sr. not taking out Saddam was extremely intelligent.

My favorite quote of his is...

"Extending the war into Iraq would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Exceeding the U.N.'s mandate would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."
-- From "Why We Didn't Remove Saddam"
by George Bush [Sr.] and Brent Scowcroft, Time Magazine, 1998

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 7, 2004, 5:08 pm

Thess wrote:George Bush sr. not taking out Saddam was extremely intelligent.

My favorite quote of his is...

"Extending the war into Iraq would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Exceeding the U.N.'s mandate would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."
-- From "Why We Didn't Remove Saddam"
by George Bush [Sr.] and Brent Scowcroft, Time Magazine, 1998

Yep, that's Bush Sr's biggest mistake.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » July 7, 2004, 5:12 pm

Actually going to war with Iraq to begin with was his biggest mistake in my opinion

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 7, 2004, 5:18 pm

Thess wrote:Actually going to war with Iraq to begin with was his biggest mistake in my opinion

Avoiding war is always the first option to consider but do you remember the atmosphere back then? It's easy to say that now but when Saddam was rolling through Kuwait and eyeing Saudi Arabia it didn't seem like the best option. Saudi Arabia hates us and was worried enough to let us setup operations in their country.

You can argue that it was our fault to begin with or whatever else you want to argue but Saddam wasn't going to hang loose after raping Kuwait. So yes, Bush Sr's biggest mistake was not biting the bullet the first Gulf War and taking out Saddam. He probably was duped by promises of UN sanctions.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » July 7, 2004, 9:28 pm

Kuwait was slant drilling for oil into Iraq

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 7, 2004, 9:43 pm

Thess wrote:Kuwait was slant drilling for oil into Iraq

So? That jusifies invading a country, raping its women, stealing it's treasures, setting their oil fields on fire? Perhaps you should read:

The Rape of Kuwait: The True Story of Iraqi Atrocities Against a Civilian Population

Slant drilling = August 8: Iraq announces that Kuwait has become its 19th province.

August 2, 1990, the day Iraq invaded Kuwait, will go down in the annals of Kuwaiti history as a black day. It was a day that shattered lives and the nation. It marked the beginning of over seven-month long occupation during which survival itself became a nightmarish ordeal.

International telephone lines were snapped. Local television and radio stations were taken over. Attempts to make contacts abroad involved the risk of capture and execution. Most information about conditions inside Kuwait came from those who had managed to flee the country and find refuge elsewhere. Their reports were chilling.

'Freedom', 'Civil Rights', 'Human Rights' -- were words that had lost their meaning. While waking up alive was reason enough to give thanks, it also meant not knowing what new horrors the day might bring. Those who left home did so with the knowledge that they might never return -- the entire city was crawling with snipers and landmines. Not that home provided a haven of safety and security. The Iraqi forces had the free run of the country. They barged into private homes to loot, plunder, torture, rape and execute at will. Any resistance was met with a merciless display of strength of superior numbers and weapons.

Water desalination and purification plants were destroyed. Food and water supplies to the Kuwaiti people were cut off as Saddam Hussein diverted them to his own armies. The ever-present possibility of chemical weapons attacks meant having to sew home-made gas masks.

As in any war, the children were the worst victims. Their world had changed overnight. The invasion and subsequent occupation of their tiny nation came as a bolt from the blue. Before the invasion, Kuwait's crime rate ranked among the lowest in the world. Now they were surrounded by images of death and destruction. Even the sun didn't seem to shine as before. The oil wells set afire by the Iraqis belched thick black smoke that clouded their lives like a bad dream they couldn't seem to wake up from. Sleep provided no respite, not with the constant raging of machine guns and tanks so perilously close.

The invaders gutted all that they could not kill or take with them. Parliamentary institutions, government buildings, the airport, major hotels, clubs, playgrounds and recreation centres were ransacked and destroyed. The beaches were used as arsenals for Iraqi arms. Some of the most fashionable residential suburbs were taken over by the Iraqi troops. Those that did not suit their purposes were torched. Even mosques and places of worship were not spared.

eh fuck'em they're just arabs. We should have stayed out of it...

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