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they made a good point and Xouqoa creed suckd balls anyways so i was happy they broke up
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The "grunge revolution" was great when it was lead by bands like Soundgarden and Nirvana. Now it's the fucks in the recording industry are shoveling out shit like this in the same manner boy bands are made.
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Oh, I dunno. I don't listen to the radio, I'm a snob.Stragi wrote:more like creed part 3002882, every fucking new band that gets radio play all sound exactly the same... its like some dude in a garage somewhere made one song and the whole music industry is recycling it.Xouqoa wrote:roooooooooooooooofls
Creed part two?
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I cried the day Soundgarden broke up. That day was a turning point in rock n roll history....but hope was not lost! That is, until Layne Staley killed himself, snuffing out any dreams of Alice and Chains finally getting there shit together, and doing something.masteen wrote:The "grunge revolution" was great when it was lead by bands like Soundgarden and Nirvana. Now it's the fucks in the recording industry are shoveling out shit like this in the same manner boy bands are made.
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There's a bunch of songs by Nickleback that I like, same with Limp Biz and even NSync or JT's solo cd.. They're mixed in my mp3 list with old Metallica, Jessica Simpson, Pantera, Garth Brooks, Anthrax, Backstreet Boys, Aerosmith, Clara Ponty, etc..
People spend way too much time hating bands. Almost any group, artist, puppet has the potential to release a decent song.
People spend way too much time hating bands. Almost any group, artist, puppet has the potential to release a decent song.
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oh god. Wait...you're the one who hates Jim Morrison's voice!Siji wrote:There's a bunch of songs by Nickleback that I like, same with Limp Biz and even NSync or JT's solo cd.. They're mixed in my mp3 list with old Metallica, Jessica Simpson, Pantera, Garth Brooks, Anthrax, Backstreet Boys, Aerosmith, Clara Ponty, etc..
People spend way too much time hating bands. Almost any group, artist, puppet has the potential to release a decent song.
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Soundgarden is good, I used to like Nirvana a lot but after listening to some of there songs recently, i realize that they spew the same exact horseshit as creed and nickelback. That and Cobain sounds like hes about to OD everytime he opens his mouth to sing a lyric. They do not have much intrumental skill at all, hell they prided themselves on that fact, that they could be so big sounding like complete bullshit.masteen wrote:The "grunge revolution" was great when it was lead by bands like Soundgarden and Nirvana. Now it's the fucks in the recording industry are shoveling out shit like this in the same manner boy bands are made.
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Nivana was revolutionary at the time just for the fact that they were doing something that nobody else was, and they made it mainstream. They were an excellent band, imo.Xzion wrote:Soundgarden is good, I used to like Nirvana a lot but after listening to some of there songs recently, i realize that they spew the same exact horseshit as creed and nickelback. That and Cobain sounds like hes about to OD everytime he opens his mouth to sing a lyric. They do not have much intrumental skill at all, hell they prided themselves on that fact, that they could be so big sounding like complete bullshit.masteen wrote:The "grunge revolution" was great when it was lead by bands like Soundgarden and Nirvana. Now it's the fucks in the recording industry are shoveling out shit like this in the same manner boy bands are made.
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Sure they were revolutionary, but revolutionary in a negative sence. They opened up the gateway for "nu rock" "nu punk?" bands like Nickelback and Blink182, who just strumm a few power cords that one can learn after 3 days of gitar lessons.Xouqoa wrote:Nivana was revolutionary at the time just for the fact that they were doing something that nobody else was, and they made it mainstream. They were an excellent band, imo.Xzion wrote:Soundgarden is good, I used to like Nirvana a lot but after listening to some of there songs recently, i realize that they spew the same exact horseshit as creed and nickelback. That and Cobain sounds like hes about to OD everytime he opens his mouth to sing a lyric. They do not have much intrumental skill at all, hell they prided themselves on that fact, that they could be so big sounding like complete bullshit.masteen wrote:The "grunge revolution" was great when it was lead by bands like Soundgarden and Nirvana. Now it's the fucks in the recording industry are shoveling out shit like this in the same manner boy bands are made.
What good has come out of the Nirvana "revolution"?
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While Nirvana may have paved the way for shitbands like Limp Bizzkit and Nicklebag, they are also responsible for getting rid of bands like Warrant, Slaughter, and Winger. We're better off, i think.
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you should really read deeper into rock history than poprock.Xzion wrote:Sure they were revolutionary, but revolutionary in a negative sence. They opened up the gateway for "nu rock" "nu punk?" bands like Nickelback and Blink182, who just strumm a few power cords that one can learn after 3 days of gitar lessons.Xouqoa wrote:Nivana was revolutionary at the time just for the fact that they were doing something that nobody else was, and they made it mainstream. They were an excellent band, imo.Xzion wrote:Soundgarden is good, I used to like Nirvana a lot but after listening to some of there songs recently, i realize that they spew the same exact horseshit as creed and nickelback. That and Cobain sounds like hes about to OD everytime he opens his mouth to sing a lyric. They do not have much intrumental skill at all, hell they prided themselves on that fact, that they could be so big sounding like complete bullshit.masteen wrote:The "grunge revolution" was great when it was lead by bands like Soundgarden and Nirvana. Now it's the fucks in the recording industry are shoveling out shit like this in the same manner boy bands are made.
What good has come out of the Nirvana "revolution"?
Bands such as nirvana ENDED hair bands, which until that point, were mainstream rock.
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Are you serious? Alternative Rock (for lack of a better term) would never have come to the forefront of the rock scene if not for bands such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden.Xzion wrote:What good has come out of the Nirvana "revolution"?
90% of the bands I enjoy listening to now probably would never have formed or would be entirely different if it weren't for the 'grunge revolution' in the early 90's.
Nivana didn't pave the way for Nickleback and Blink 182 (who used to be decent), corporate radio did. Blame Clear Channel if you want to blame someone for that. Why do those bands get so popular? Because that's all you fucking hear on MTV and 90% of the FM radio stations in this country. As far as those types of bands are concerned though, I consider them more pop than rock.
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Nirvana are more "pop rock" then anything by my definition. While i agree with what you said about Soundgarden stp and Alice in Chains, i dont think nirvana belongs in that category, as far as there actual sound. Nirvana is popular for all the same reasons you listed in regards to Blink182 and Nickelback, and this new generation of "pop rock".Xouqoa wrote:Are you serious? Alternative Rock (for lack of a better term) would never have come to the forefront of the rock scene if not for bands such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden.Xzion wrote:What good has come out of the Nirvana "revolution"?
90% of the bands I enjoy listening to now probably would never have formed or would be entirely different if it weren't for the 'grunge revolution' in the early 90's.
Nivana didn't pave the way for Nickleback and Blink 182 (who used to be decent), corporate radio did. Blame Clear Channel if you want to blame someone for that. Why do those bands get so popular? Because that's all you fucking hear on MTV and 90% of the FM radio stations in this country. As far as those types of bands are concerned though, I consider them more pop than rock.
Can you argue though that Nirvana in itself didnt sound like complete horseshit?
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While Cobain did occasionally lose his shit on stage (blame herion and Courtney), Nirvana was pretty sound mechanically and Dave Grohl is certainly no hack. Yeah, they did have a very raw sound, but some of the stuff on In Utero is challenging musically, especially when you consider they didn't use a shitload of studio effects. Fuck the half-finished version of "You Know You're Right" is better than most of the shit out there today.
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Xzion wrote:Nirvana are more "pop rock" then anything by my definition. While i agree with what you said about Soundgarden stp and Alice in Chains, i dont think nirvana belongs in that category, as far as there actual sound. Nirvana is popular for all the same reasons you listed in regards to Blink182 and Nickelback, and this new generation of "pop rock".Xouqoa wrote:Are you serious? Alternative Rock (for lack of a better term) would never have come to the forefront of the rock scene if not for bands such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden.Xzion wrote:What good has come out of the Nirvana "revolution"?
90% of the bands I enjoy listening to now probably would never have formed or would be entirely different if it weren't for the 'grunge revolution' in the early 90's.
Nivana didn't pave the way for Nickleback and Blink 182 (who used to be decent), corporate radio did. Blame Clear Channel if you want to blame someone for that. Why do those bands get so popular? Because that's all you fucking hear on MTV and 90% of the FM radio stations in this country. As far as those types of bands are concerned though, I consider them more pop than rock.
Can you argue though that Nirvana in itself didnt sound like complete horseshit?
If Smells Like Teen Spirit hadn't gone HUGE, you would probably never have heard STP, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, etc on the radio...much less ever heard of them. Unless you were some hardcore counterculture kid on top of everything before it happened, and I know you're not.
edit- And in regards to Nirvana's sound, I would qualify that they were going for a very harsh, dirty, and not polished sound. It was everything they were trying to not be. All music at that time was studio manipulated to the nth degree, what they did, might as well have been recorded in one live take (and often was on earlier albums). Kurt was a self taught guitar player, who had a powefully raw intensity and very little finesse. And if you can possibly say Dave's drumming sounded like shit, then you need to stick a power drill in your aural cavities and just end it.
actually I believe such good bands as stp(92), soundgarden(in the 80's sometime), alice in chains(staley was making music at the age of 10), were all before Nirvana, but Nirvana obvisoley increased the grunge scene.
it seems to me that most new bands are so much like Creed or Nirvana that I have to think what band it is because they sound so damn similar. For the most part I haven't heard many good grunge singers for a long time. Freaking Cornell, Weiland, Cantrel/staley owns all new bands its ridiculous.
it seems to me that most new bands are so much like Creed or Nirvana that I have to think what band it is because they sound so damn similar. For the most part I haven't heard many good grunge singers for a long time. Freaking Cornell, Weiland, Cantrel/staley owns all new bands its ridiculous.
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STP wasn't formed until after Nirvana made it big. Nevermind came out in 90 or 91.
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