Scientists Demonstrate Teleportation with atoms

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Scientists Demonstrate Teleportation with atoms

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http://www.local6.com/technology/3425929/detail.html

I am having a hard time wrapping my mind around how this is even possible. Obviously some type of bond exists between these atoms, we just dont have the technology to see/figure out what that bond is.
In a step toward making ultra-powerful computers, scientists have transferred physical characteristics between atoms by using a phenomenon so bizarre that even Albert Einstein called it spooky.

Such "quantum teleportation" of characteristics had been demonstrated before between beams of light.

The work with atoms is "a landmark advance," H.J. Kimble of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, Calif., and S.J. van Enk of Bell Labs in Murray Hill, N.J., declare in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature.

Two teams of scientists report similar results in that issue. One group was led by David J. Wineland of the National Institute of Standards and Technology in Boulder, Colo., and the other by Rainer Blatt of the University of Innsbruck in Austria.

Teleportation between atoms could someday lie at the heart of powerful quantum computers, which are probably at least a decade away from development, Wineland said. Although his work moved information about atomic characteristics only a tiny fraction of an inch, that's in the ballpark for what would be needed inside a computer, he said.

His work involved transmitting characteristics between pairs of beryllium atoms, while the Austrian work used pairs of calcium atoms. Each atom's "quantum state," a complex combination of traits, was transmitted to its counterpart.

Key to the process was a phenomenon called entanglement, which Einstein derided as "spooky action at a distance" before experiments showed it was real.

Basically, researchers can use lab techniques to create a weird relationship between pairs of tiny particles. After that, the fate of one particle instantly affects the other; if one particle is made to take on a certain set of properties, the other immediately takes on identical or opposite properties, no matter how far away it is and without any apparent physical connection to the first particle.
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If you really want to bake your noodle, read up on Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, which is what it sounds like is essentially at work here...or at least part of it. That was a hard one to grasp...learning how an electron can be in more than one place at once, and how - on an atomic level - matter has characteristics of light.
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Actually, this is different than the Uncertainty principle but in the same balpark of physics. In a nutshell, the Uncertainty Principle simply states that you cannot know both the location and the velocity of a partical simultaneously. This stuff is linking two atomic structures together in a way that their state changes are shared, which to my mind suggests yet another even smaller order of sub atomic particals even smaller than quarks.

Depending on what distance the interaction works across, it could have some interesting applications in both computing and physics. Say you link two atoms and send one past the event horizon of a black hole for example, while observing the other (probably not in the realm of this science, but just an idea) which would further a lot of cosmology. If I had to take a wild guess, this probably has something to do with how gravity works (something that grand unification still struggles to understand) and could be a huge leap forward in physics.
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Some of the stuff they are doing is mind blowing. I do remember reading about this not long ago and it was a very intreasting read.
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I'm going to kill every executive at Ford and GM with my bare hands if we invent teleporters before we invent a electric of fuel cell car that doesn't suck.
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kyoukan wrote:I'm going to kill every executive at Ford and GM with my bare hands if we invent teleporters before we invent a electric of fuel cell car that doesn't suck.
The only thing preventing us from having efficient non-fuel based vehicles is political pressure. The oil industry won't allow it and they have the money and politicians in their pocket to prevent it as long as possible.

Also there still aren't any credible studies showing we are hurting the earth with all the carbon monoxide we are spewing into the atmosphere.
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Maybe, but there is pleanty of evidence that the people who profit from oil are folks we don't want having any wealth or power.
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interesting.

when they teleported photons, the way i understood it is that it worked because they particles were "entangled".

neat, wonder how this works.
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no credible stu.. oh my dear jesus you are so far beyond hope.
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A nice technical achievement for sure. Although "quantum computing" is a term that has been used so much in both the literature and the popular press that it means basically nothing any more, I definitely think that observing this coupling with relatively heavy atoms (calcium and berillium... I was expecting hydrogen. helium, or lithium) puts us on track for a useful application of the effect. Of course, computer architecture and basic electronic design still need to be radically retooled and rethought in order for this to be applicable on anything but a laboratory scale.

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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
kyoukan wrote:I'm going to kill every executive at Ford and GM with my bare hands if we invent teleporters before we invent a electric of fuel cell car that doesn't suck.
The only thing preventing us from having efficient non-fuel based vehicles is political pressure. The oil industry won't allow it and they have the money and politicians in their pocket to prevent it as long as possible.
I completely disagree. People could make far too much money if they could make a vehicle that was significantly more fuel efficient than we have currently (that doesn't have any big drawback compared to the current standard). There is no way that the oil companies could continue to suppress it if such technology was easily to produce.
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Particle physics is a fascinating mindblowing subject. I wish Tarmor still posted here as he knows more about this subject than anyone I know.
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I went to an alternative energy fair last weekend that had a lot of greasecars. These are cars that run on vegetable oil. THey are actually very cheap to build. Most of the examples used a diesel engine car like teh VW Rabbit. The conversion costs less than a $1000 and can give you over 100 mpgs at a cost of about $.45/gallon. This technology has been around since the 70's.

Point is that this technology is out there and available but no one wants to smell like french fries when they are driving.

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Replicating quantum states isn't exactly teleportation in the strictest sense. Exciting stuff, but the recent development by two companies of processes to synthesize large and perfect diamonds will have more near-term impact on our lives than this.
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masteen wrote:Replicating quantum states isn't exactly teleportation in the strictest sense. Exciting stuff, but the recent development by two companies of processes to synthesize large and perfect diamonds will have more near-term impact on our lives than this.
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If anyone is looking, the most commonly referenced Wired article on the subject is here
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Also there still aren't any credible studies showing we are hurting the earth with all the carbon monoxide we are spewing into the atmosphere.
You don't think that carbon monoxide is hurting the atmosphere because you don't find the hundreds of studies credible, yet you support the war in Iraq on basically no evidence? How the hell does your mind work?

And before you go shouting that I am putting words in your mouth, I am letting you know that your statement is leading me to that conclusion.
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Of course the real problem is with carbon DIoxide, not carbon MONoxide, so of course you haven't seen any studies concerning carbon monoxide.

On a more substantive note, Prof. Nate Lewis of CalTech has a shocking talk on the consequences of limiting carbon as an energy source. Here's a link to the site where you can download a transcript and the powerpoint presentation of it. [url]http://www.classicalmythology.org/maps/[-url]

In short, he states that if we are to maintain carbon emissions at current levels that we need to have in place by 2050 a supply of energy sources, that are non-carbon emissive, the size of ALL energy sources utilized today. This is assuming certain levels of conservation and energy growth (based on past rates of conservation and growth). In one particularly pointed example, in order to meet this requirement we would have to build 1 nuclear fission plant a week all the way to 2050.

Another interesting aspect of this is that market forces will NOT be applicable in controlling carbon emissions without governmental intervention (a "carbon tax" so to speak) because fossil fuels will remain FAR cheaper than all other energy sources for the foreseeable future. This is due to the immense reserves, particularly of coal, that are unharvested at this point. And, even if fossil fuel prices skyrocket (quadruple or more) they still remain cheaper than all other existing technologies. Basically, his conclusion is that there needs to be a significant investment (hundreds of billions a year) in alternative energy technologies, specifically in solar and/or fusion, if we are going to be able to remain at current levels of carbon dioxide emission.
This is a scary conclusion, because I don't see this investment being made any time soon, and if its not made we could be going to hell in a handbasket.


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All this worry about global warming will fade in a couple hundred years when the earth returns to it's natural, ice encrusted state.
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Also there still aren't any credible studies showing we are hurting the earth with all the carbon monoxide we are spewing into the atmosphere.
(EDIT: I am avoiding discussion/digression on the topic of CO vs CO2)

There are two important points of contention here.

The first is "hurting the earth". Strictly speaking, I could argue that a thermonuclear holocaust wouldn't "hurt" the earth. If you are including the environment currently thriving on the earth, then the we can have a more interesting discussion. I will assume that the latter is the case.

The second is your definition of credible. I have no means of assessing what you would and would not find credible, but past experience tells me that you will discredit many credible sources based upon whether or not you "like" what they are saying. I will restrict my links to sites for information to international recognized bodies and United States governmental departments to ere on the side of caution.


Based upon the sheer volume of the material that can be presented to refute your statement, I will not be quoting any quick blurbs. You have a tonne of reading to do on the subject and will probably need some basic atmospheric physics and chemistry knowledge, with some basic skills in geography (science, not what state goes where on a map!) and meteorology. Good luck on the reading!

http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwarmi ... index.html

I suppose the EPA isn't credible?

http://www.grida.no/climate/

I suppose the United Nations Environment Programme isn't credible either?

http://www.ipcc.ch/

I suppose the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change isn't credible either?



More reading at:

http://www.worldwildlife.org/climate/index.cfm
http://archive.greenpeace.org/climate/
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But the WWF (World Wildlife Fund) isn't a credible source... :D
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Lynks wrote:But the WWF (World Wildlife Fund) isn't a credible source... :D
Ignoring the sarcasm, I will comment that the "More Reading at:" items are provided as further reading rather than sources. I could only think of three government organizations on the subject when I wrote this and quickly ran some searches to find their sites. The charity organization sites were provided as interesting reads. I am sure that Mid will discredit the whole list on the basis of the WWF or GreenPeace link, but it doesn't matter.
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masteen wrote:Picture for the reading impaired:
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Empirical evidence of correlation! Well done, now prove the causality! ;)
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