It's time to nerd things up

Dups. · Post by **Dups.** » June 16, 2004, 11:05 am

I was at the grocery store the other day and I saw Magic The Gathering booster and starter decks with a two new sets that I had never seen before.

It's been a good 5 years now that I haven't played MTG. According to the website I quit playing during Urza's block.

Has anyone been keeping up with MTG.

What kind of deck do you play?
Has there been any big changes to the rules?
Any new overpowering abilities for creatures?

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » June 16, 2004, 11:07 am

Umm this is a board started for people playing an online roleplaying game, it is impossible to increase the nerd factor in any way.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » June 16, 2004, 11:26 am

MTG is definitely nerdier than EQ.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » June 16, 2004, 11:28 am

That's like saying Star Trek is nerdier than Babylon 5.

It's probably true but on the cosmic scale of things they're both pretty fuckin nerdy.

Edit: Forgot the obligatory *BLEEBLEWEEP"

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » June 16, 2004, 11:36 am

I still have all my cards. Someplace in my house are binders full of cards. I figure someday my kids will use them to make their bikes sound like motorcycles.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » June 16, 2004, 11:40 am

If my kids ever do that with my MTG cards, I will break their souls.

Post by **Xouqoa** » June 16, 2004, 11:54 am

I never understood the point of MTG. What is it?

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » June 16, 2004, 11:57 am

L5R > MTG

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » June 16, 2004, 12:15 pm

Pretty simple. In the origional game, you played for your opponent's cards.. that practice mostly died out.

You each have a deck you either make yourself or buy preconditioned. You and your opponent both start out with 20hp, no cards on the table, and 7 cards in your hand.

The objective from here is to generate mana (playing land cards is the primary source of it), then cast spells that either do damage directly, damage indirectly, summon monsters, or assist you in some way. Once you have a monster summoned, you attack, and barring the other player having any defense, that player takes damage equal to that creature's power.

The end goal: Snuff your opponent's 20hp before he does it to you.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » June 16, 2004, 12:33 pm

MTG is a fun game to play. I also gave it up when in the "Urza Block" as I felt the expansions where coming out too fast and were too "samey" other than whatever gimmick mechanics they had added (echo, cycling, that kind of crap). But then I played pretty seriously and the cash outlay required to stay on top was getting ridiculous.

Haven't played in over 5 years and just moved house and hauled a shitload of heavy boxes of cards with me and it made me vary angry to have to do so. So last month I sorted the cards out and about 90% of them were shite. They've now gone for recycling. I had about 1000 cards left that I felt were saleable, found a website that was buying, sold about 25% of the saleable stuff to them via fedex and paypal and made over $900US. The rest will go on ebay when I can be bothered.

If anyone's sitting on any of the P9 cards they're worth a fortune. A mint white-border lotus went for over $800 last month on ebay. Alas I got into it too late for any of that good shit

masteen · Post by **masteen** » June 16, 2004, 1:13 pm

I started back in college, and the first expansion cards I bought were Antiquities and Legends. I LOVED The Dark when it came out, but Fallen Empires left such a bad taste in my mouth I quit until Urza's Legacy. I played through the Masques block.

In my many years, I learned that a good deck of core cards with a few appropriate expansion cards served me infinitely better than the tweaked (and expensive) mostly expansion decks did. The core cards also don't become mostly useless after six months, so I could pick up one of my old decks and prolly play a tournament with minimal adjustments.

People used to get pissed off when I'd beat them with a basic red and black land destruction deck that used like 6 expansion cards.

So, in short, don't buy shitloads of expansion packs. Buy core set stuff, and if there is shit you want from the expansion, just buy the individual cards; it's cheaper in the long run. Also, look into the pre-fab decks they issue every expansion, not for the decks themselves, but for the rares they contain. I used to buy these decks and sell off some of the rares and uncommons for 2x what I paid for the deck AND got to keep the cards I really wanted.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » June 16, 2004, 1:48 pm

Heh I stopped playing at the height of the insanity, 3rd expansion (whatever that was called) and sold all my cards and bought a brand new car with the profits. Exact prices I forget, but I know I got 650 each for my lotus's (3)

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » June 16, 2004, 1:53 pm

So, in short, don't buy shitloads of expansion packs. Buy core set stuff

Well yeah but the time I quit was when 6thEd came out and they removed Nevinyrral's Disk and Armageddon from the basic set and added shit like Hymn to Tourach.
I mean wtf.

Dups. · Post by **Dups.** » June 16, 2004, 2:38 pm

vn_Tanc wrote:
So, in short, don't buy shitloads of expansion packs. Buy core set stuff
Well yeah but the time I quit was when 6thEd came out and they removed Nevinyrral's Disk and Armageddon from the basic set and added shit like Hymn to Tourach.
I mean wtf.

-Nevinyrral's Disk- Man I swore many a times at that fucking card when played against me.

Armageddon was quite interesting as well.

However, nothing beats the Wrath of God card when you first started playing and you understood the card as "Bury all your opponents creatures." I beat Lynks many a times with this card

However it evens things out for his illegal combo of lab rats that he would use against me.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » June 16, 2004, 3:55 pm

vn_Tanc wrote:
So, in short, don't buy shitloads of expansion packs. Buy core set stuff
Well yeah but the time I quit was when 6thEd came out and they removed Nevinyrral's Disk and Armageddon from the basic set and added shit like Hymn to Tourach.
I mean wtf.

Which is why I always fortified my decks with some powerful expansion cards. The core set has all the mechanics you need, it's just lacking in brute power and neato trix.

Adelrune Argenti · Post by **Adelrune Argenti** » June 16, 2004, 4:04 pm

I still play about once a week. I do buy a box of each new set that comes out to stay somewhat competitive. Some of the newer cards are bringing back some sick combo decks, as in 1 to 2 turn kills.

Still a fun game but I only play it multiplayer now. Much more fun with 4 people and the politics that ensue when you are trying to stave off someone killing you.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » June 16, 2004, 5:34 pm

My favorite games were 5 person Chromatic matches. Each player can only use one color. Each color has 2 allies and 2 opponents (Blue is allied w/ White and Black opposed by Green and Red, Black is allied w/ Red and Blue, opposed by Green and White, ect.) I was the bestest blue mage!

Dups. · Post by **Dups.** » June 16, 2004, 5:58 pm

Actually, What I find fun as well is buying a starter deck of a new set and have a friend buy a different starter deck. Not look at the cards and just play one deck versus the other. See how makes the best out of his cards.

I've tried this once or twice and it was a blast. However, with almost each card that was played we were like.. WTF DOES THAT THING DO!>!>!!?!?!?!?!? oh.. it's a 1/1 creature.. nm

Panicing for nothing

Syndaen Crystalthorn · Post by **Syndaen Crystalthorn** » June 16, 2004, 6:15 pm

I started in Unlimited and have a complete set of everything since then...

I figure I could have bought a few new cars by now with the money I have spent. I still occassionally play type 2 tournies on Saturday mornings. Last one I was in was the 5th Dawn Prerelease tourny about 2 weeks ago.

Magic now is much different than when I started. Everything now is about how to exploit combos and beat the metagame.

I also play online using Magic: Online, Apprentice32, and Magic Workstation, let me know if you ever want to get schooled

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » June 16, 2004, 8:45 pm

vn_Tanc wrote:That's like saying Star Trek is nerdier than Babylon 5.

It's probably true but on the cosmic scale of things they're both pretty fuckin nerdy.

Edit: Forgot the obligatory *BLEEBLEWEEP"

I've never played MTG.

Bab5 >>>> Trek.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » June 17, 2004, 10:51 am

I must admit it was a lot of fun back in college spending my financial aid money on boxes of cards. Opening them and hunting down rares was a blast.
I actually sold a car to a friend for 3 boxes of Starwars cards. He in turn sold it to Jice and he promptly wrecked it days afterwards. The T rods went out. I felt bad for him but not too bad because I pulled 2 Darth Vaders out of those boxes.

Stalker Vacio · Post by **Stalker Vacio** » June 17, 2004, 3:25 pm

Started during Fallen Empires and left around the time Mirage came out.

Best Expansion in my time was Legends. I remember seeing a pack going for 15 dollars...that shit was nuts

My favorite decks were :

Pure red Goblin zerg + DD deck
White Banding Your never gonna kill me MUAHAHA deck
Blue counter everything and you mama deck
Green/Red Cheese Blood Lust/Giant Growth Deck

Oh the memories....

From my understanding, most of Type 1 ,1.5 cards are now illegal, banned or restricted due to there power so if you held onto your collection it's worthless.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » June 17, 2004, 3:30 pm

They're far from worthless, just not worth the ridiculous amounts they were before.

I still have quite a few cards that manipulate the ante. Even though nobody plays for ante anymore, they're neat.

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » June 18, 2004, 9:18 am

Oh...my...Christ.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » June 18, 2004, 9:23 am

Hey, it must be around the 20th of the month!

Spang · Post by **Spang** » June 18, 2004, 9:26 am

i started playing when 4th edition was out, i think. and stopped when Ice Age was out. was that the name of it? there was a smaller expansion that came out after ice age...i forget the name of it though. that's when i stopped playing.

i think i had more fun building decks than actually playing them.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » June 18, 2004, 10:56 am

Spang wrote:i started playing when 4th edition was out, i think. and stopped when Ice Age was out. was that the name of it? there was a smaller expansion that came out after ice age...i forget the name of it though. that's when i stopped playing.

i think i had more fun building decks than actually playing them.

I think it was Homelands.

Any play the computer game? I always thought that was a fun game though now it only works on a win95/98 box. They should make another game like that. Only spiffier.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » June 18, 2004, 10:57 am

agree Bubba

Spang · Post by **Spang** » June 18, 2004, 11:05 am

homelands, that's it!

masteen · Post by **masteen** » June 18, 2004, 11:07 am

Shaerra wrote:Oh...my...Christ.

All this talk of MTG is getting her hot. Are you wet, baby?

Sinzar · Post by **Sinzar** » June 18, 2004, 2:01 pm

Bubba Grizz wrote: Any play the computer game? I always thought that was a fun game though now it only works on a win95/98 box. They should make another game like that. Only spiffier.

The computer game can work on windows xp, it does fine for me.
To do so, follow these instructions.

The files you will need can be found Here and Here

Those who want to try out the game can find it Here

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » June 18, 2004, 2:56 pm

Holy Crap! If I didn't have a reason to be excited that it is Friday and wanting to go home I sure as hell do now. Thanks man I am eager to see if this will work.