Pretty much busted xbox

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » June 4, 2004, 3:49 pm

This couldnt have happened at a worse time. I JUST bought morrowind game of the year edition for xbox. Last night the game froze on me. Ok no big deal, games freeze, especially for the length of time ive been playing. Then it did it again, and again, and again. I tried using compressed air to clean the vents, nothing. Ive tried using a laser disc cleaner, nothing. I tried my other games and they froze too.

This is a refurbished system so it only had a 7day warranty. I could also buy an extended warranty then send it in for repairs, but that will cost me about 50$ and 2-3 weeks.

So my question is, does anyone know a chain store that does repairs. A store I could find in many places? Ide rather have it fixed somewhere I can goto then send it off.

At least what Ive learned from all this is to never buy a refurbished system again.

Post by **Sylvus** » June 4, 2004, 3:57 pm

I've generally had good success with refurbished systems of all kinds. Have you had similar problems with other games? That's the first thing I'd check...

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » June 4, 2004, 4:09 pm

Ive tried this with Kotor and Shenmue 2, they both freeze also.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » June 4, 2004, 4:20 pm

Sionistic wrote:At least what Ive learned from all this is to never buy a refurbished system again.

I stand by my statements in this thread.

Sionistic wrote:They are nearly as good as new, why spend an extra 20?

But to answer your question: No.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » June 4, 2004, 4:27 pm

much h8
you were right, but
much h8

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 4, 2004, 4:45 pm

I don't buy refurbished electronics of any kind as a general rule. I never buy returned items at electronics stores either.

I always buy refurbished/rebuilt crap for my car though!

Post by **Xouqoa** » June 4, 2004, 8:52 pm

Can you get to the dashboard setup? (Boot with no game in the drive.)

If so, try deleting the save games for Morrowind and see if that fixes it. Otherwise, you could try returning it to Wal-Mart, they take back anything - sometimes even if you didn't buy it there!

Pyrella can probably tell you how to format the HD inside it also, if you want to try that. It might be a hardware thing, though.

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » June 4, 2004, 9:14 pm

From what I understand, there are three different manufacturers of the dvd drives on Xbox. Apparently, the drives made by Thomson are more prone to dirty disk or disk skippage. I have a Thomson and it usually craps out on me after about 90 minutes of continuous play, more or less. I clean the drive every 10 hours and it's usully not a real problem since I can rarely play more than half that time in one sitting.

Seems to be the way to tell

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » June 4, 2004, 11:31 pm

I just decided to go with the extended warranty. So while Im waiting for my service countract I'll try deleting my morrowind saves.
Oh I have the samsung drive.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » June 4, 2004, 11:37 pm

I deleted all my morrowind saves and morrowind still freezes. So 20$ not wasted.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » June 5, 2004, 1:46 am

refurbished just means you're buying shit that's already broken.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 5, 2004, 2:09 am

Chidoro wrote:

Seems to be the way to tell

I read from a survey that most women preferred the philips of those three.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » June 5, 2004, 11:48 am

Do the hacks talked about in another thread.. I think of the whole time I've owned my XBOX I've used my dvd drive for a total of 5 minutes while initially modding the system. Haven't used it once since then. You've also got more control over fixing and checking into the problem once it's hacked. Course if it's hardware, you can't take it somewhere - but you could always buy replacement parts.

http://www.xbox-scene.com

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » June 5, 2004, 6:23 pm

Sionistic wrote:So my question is, does anyone know a chain store that does repairs. A store I could find in many places? Ide rather have it fixed somewhere I can goto then send it off.

Nope, but if it was in the warranty period still, Microsoft would have sent you a free box for shipping

This was something we fought over when doing tech support, but MS was VERY set on doing the work themselves.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » June 5, 2004, 6:28 pm

Why the hell do they make them with different quality drives like that? Do they say on the box if it has one or the other, or is it just a suprise when you plug that sucker in for the first time?

Karae · Post by **Karae** » June 6, 2004, 5:53 am

This is what you get for buying an overheatbox. Play it too long, and the fucker explodes.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » June 6, 2004, 12:00 pm

anyway to improve cooling?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 7, 2004, 1:11 am

Sionistic wrote:anyway to improve cooling?

http://www.modchipman.com/catalog/produ ... ucts_id=61

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » June 8, 2004, 11:27 am

ive had my xbox for a good year and a half, although i mainly use it for DVDs, i leave it on on a good 60-75% of the time, and ive never had a problem

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » June 8, 2004, 12:25 pm

Well I was playing morrowind for 7 hours straight the day it starting freezing, maybe that did it.
Oh and that extra fan thing you linked, it only had one review and it was negative. Are you sure it works?

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » June 8, 2004, 2:54 pm

I used to be able to tell which was which by the barcode visible through the "hole" in the back of the box. It has been so long though, that I cannot remember what they all stood for. Also, there are more plants cranking them out now.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » June 8, 2004, 8:58 pm

Boogahz wrote:I used to be able to tell which was which by the barcode visible through the "hole" in the back of the box. It has been so long though, that I cannot remember what they all stood for. Also, there are more plants cranking them out now.

You can tell what version it is, when appx it was mfg and where it was mfg, but s'far as I know, there's no way to tell from the code as to which drive (dvd drive) that it has in it. I did some research into seeing if it was possible after reading horror stories about the Thompson drives, but found nothing. It's luck of the draw.

btw - I ended up w/a Thompson drive and also found some threads comparing the drives, and there really aren't any of the three that are better than the others. They each seem to be able to do a certain type of disc better than the others. You can search/find more info about it on xbox-scene's forums.

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » June 10, 2004, 6:24 pm

You're probably correct however, the percentage of failure is way too high imo. I mean, my original atari still works as does my genesis and snes. The ps1 used to overheat like a bitch, my ps2 seems ok and my thomson xbox seems to crap out w/ dirty disk errors periodically. even have a few fucked up kotor saves because of it. It pisses me off to be honest. I really don't use the xbox anywhere near as much as I pushed my old ps1. In addition, I've heard stories that certain game saves don't carry to a memory card let alone my LIVE settings else I'd just but another one quite frankly.

I really hate being an early adopter sometimes

Siji · Post by **Siji** » June 10, 2004, 8:37 pm

Chidoro wrote:You're probably correct however, the percentage of failure is way too high imo. I mean, my original atari still works as does my genesis and snes.

I agree, but this IS Microsoft we're talking about here. Quality isn't exactly Job 1.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » June 10, 2004, 10:08 pm

Siji wrote:
Boogahz wrote:I used to be able to tell which was which by the barcode visible through the "hole" in the back of the box. It has been so long though, that I cannot remember what they all stood for. Also, there are more plants cranking them out now.
You can tell what version it is, when appx it was mfg and where it was mfg, but s'far as I know, there's no way to tell from the code as to which drive (dvd drive) that it has in it. I did some research into seeing if it was possible after reading horror stories about the Thompson drives, but found nothing. It's luck of the draw.

btw - I ended up w/a Thompson drive and also found some threads comparing the drives, and there really aren't any of the three that are better than the others. They each seem to be able to do a certain type of disc better than the others. You can search/find more info about it on xbox-scene's forums.

You *could* tell what drive was used when you did tech support on the XBox and had access to the information. I don't do that anymore which is why I said I used to be able to.

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