Orwell was an optimist

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Orwell was an optimist

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Check this shit out.

This is just plain crazy.
War is an option whose time has passed. Peace is the only option for the future. At present we occupy a treacherous no-man's-land between peace and war, a time of growing fear that our military might has expanded beyond our capacity to control it and our political differences widened beyond our ability to bridge them. . . .

Short of changing human nature, therefore, the only way to achieve a practical, livable peace in a world of competing nations is to take the profit out of war.
--RICHARD M. NIXON, "REAL PEACE" (1983)

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children."

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"From what I saw, [school officials] were right to be concerned," Prosser Police Chief Win Taylor said.
Yes of course High School Children should never actually express how they feel or what they believe in their art...They should be punished for producing art reflecting how they see their world...They need to suppress that shit til they A) Explode and go Columbine or B) Graduate and are drafted into the military and have real weapon to act on these urges with...

Police Chiefs of course are THE arbitors of good art...I would so tell the police, school officials and the secret service to go piss up a rope if they came to my house to complain about my child's artistic endeavours...1st amendment expression is not a freakin' viable threat on the life of the President...And if that lot sat my child down without me present...I would eat them alive...
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glad i'm already budgeted for private school (daycare pretty much costs the same), cause that's where my kids are going.
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And the erosion of individual rights and abdication of personal responsibility continues.
"There is at least as much need to curb the cruel greed and arrogance of part of the world of capital, to curb the cruel greed and violence of part of the world of labor, as to check a cruel and unhealthy militarism in international relationships." -Theodore Roosevelt
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"Secret Service agents interviewed the boy last Friday. The student, who was not arrested, has not been identified."


All they did was question him

This is what I would be more concern about

"The school district disciplined him, but district officials refused to say what the punishment was. Tolcacher said the boy was not suspended."


Why was he disciplined?
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as long as the school discloses the punishment and the crime to the parents, i dont think they need to make it public record. but i dont know shit about the laws on it.
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Cartalas wrote:Why was he disciplined?
For expressing an opinion about the situation in the mid east other than "WTF? LETS ROLL! OMG!"
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masteen wrote:
Cartalas wrote:Why was he disciplined?
For expressing an opinion about the situation in the mid east other than "WTF? LETS ROLL! OMG!"
According to the article...
Tolcacher insisted it was not a freedom of speech issue, but a concern over the depiction of violence.
Johnny needs a brain implant so he can't think these thoughts of violence and mayhem. I wonder if Johnny's parents got permission before they conceived this child?

This is George W. Bush's fault because it was HIS head on the stick.

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Metanis, no way even in the warped version of reality you believe you live in should the secret service ever have been involved with a high school student because they had political cartoons in their scetch book. Welcome to the police state.
War is an option whose time has passed. Peace is the only option for the future. At present we occupy a treacherous no-man's-land between peace and war, a time of growing fear that our military might has expanded beyond our capacity to control it and our political differences widened beyond our ability to bridge them. . . .

Short of changing human nature, therefore, the only way to achieve a practical, livable peace in a world of competing nations is to take the profit out of war.
--RICHARD M. NIXON, "REAL PEACE" (1983)

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children."

Dwight Eisenhower
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Unfuckingbelievable.

Why are you americans so fucking scared of EVERYTHING that your only reaction is over-reaction?
Even scared of your own children.
Insane.
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It's because our political and social systems are so fucked up that the only 2 choices are either complete acceptance or total demonization. Much like the "war on drugs" they feel that everything has to be painted either black or white. God help you if you speak of grey areas.
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some might say the electorates' general ignorance is an outgrowth of the almost non-priority that education is given by the government here. Perhaps sceptics would suggest that the government benefits from the increased ignorance of its populace in these regards. Certainly the GOP does, most of their constituency doesn't benefit at all from the vast majority of their policies, but because they are so simpleminded in their political views, as long as you say you are fore "family values", you get their vote. GW Bush he's a "good man".

he's a "god fearing man"

he's a "good American"

"i just like him"
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