Plaiel Scammer

Enchantress · Post by **Enchantress** » March 1, 2004, 4:14 pm

I was scammed by this character the other day. He shouts that he buys/sells pps on PayPal. He told me he would help me Xfer pps across servers. He is a scammer and a liar. Do not trust anyone you see selling pps like this. Luckily, I did not trust him with very much money. However, if you are trying to buy something from him for real money, or trusting him in any way, you are in danger of being scammed. I logged the conversation, where he said he sold pps on ebay and other places, I will be sending this information to friends at Sony >< Although, they might not be able to help with the scam itself, I do know they look down on confessed Ebayers. Just a warning, take care =D

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » March 1, 2004, 4:21 pm

Honestly two things you should consider:

1. The fact that you participated in something against regulation, incriminates you. Its like going to the police because someone sold you baking soda instead of cocaine

2. Its likely that he never sold anything on ebay or anywhere else if he's scamming people, so I wouldnt call him a "confessed ebayer"

I'll keep my other comments to myself to prevent adding insult to injury.

cid · Post by **cid** » March 1, 2004, 4:23 pm

Im selling my PP

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 1, 2004, 4:27 pm

cid wrote:Im selling my PP

Not a Very Big sale

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » March 1, 2004, 4:27 pm

Cartalas wrote:
cid wrote:Im selling my PP
Not a Very Big sale

AHAHAHA

CalandraWindrose · Post by **CalandraWindrose** » March 1, 2004, 4:30 pm

If you paid with PayPal you can file and get your money back easy - the protections are ALL on the buyers side wth PayPal and given you never received any tangible item....they don't protect sellers from a reversal on anything "intangible" - don't ask me how I know this....but you will have little trouble reversing.

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » March 1, 2004, 4:31 pm

You always run this risk when dealing with a person selling plat or items via any RL cash exchange. Perhaps you won't be like every other moron and throw a huge fit about getting ripped off because you engaged in something that most everyone, at least on VV, considers to be an immature and baseless act. Selling and Buying of plat is reprehensible and does nothing to improve your character because not only are you in gear that you could never have attained on your own, you are not becoming a better player for having gotten it. You're still just a crappy twink, but to a higher order of twink.

If you really _are_ that good of a player, join a guild that can get you the gear you want and you can be challenged in the game to the point where you do become more competant at your class.

Diae Soulmender · Post by **Diae Soulmender** » March 1, 2004, 4:48 pm

I have an "Ornate Chain Bracelet" for sale for only 25kpp would you like to buy it?

--hehe

miir · Post by **miir** » March 1, 2004, 7:02 pm

Diae Soulmender wrote:I have an "Ornate Chain Bracelet" for sale for only 25kpp would you like to buy it?

--hehe

OMGLOLWHATADEAL! I saw one for 41k in bazaar last night.... ILL BUY YOUR FOR 25k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enchantress · Post by **Enchantress** » March 2, 2004, 5:29 am

No, I think you might have misunderstood. I wasn't buying anything via PayPal. I was trying to transfer platinum by giving him pp on one server for him giving me pp on another server, nothing against rules. In fact, I have talked to a GM about this, and /reported him. It has been escalated and is in the process of being fixed. The GM indicated that since response was quick, the situation will probably easily be reversed, and there will be measures taken to punish this individual.

I tried to clearly seperate the issue of ebay/pay pal pps from the situation I was involved in. I only lost some pps.. which I have already made back. I was warning for those who would engage him in one of his real money scams, that's all.

Enchantress · Post by **Enchantress** » March 2, 2004, 5:34 am

btw, FYI I am a time flagged enchanter with full elemental gear and some time drop gear, I know how to play my class and how to earn my loot. What prompted this was the fact that I have been waiting on Sony for over three weeks to do a character transfer, and have not recieved either a positive or negative reply from them regarding the matter. Therefor, out of frustration, I took my risk with a scammer, because I got tired of waiting on SoE to do something that I had paid them for, and saw no signs of happening. I was trying to do this in order to buy my friend, a cleric, some gear, to help her increase her mana pool, to benefit her guild on raids.

I am not coming here asking for sympathy, because I never gave more pps than I could stand to lose, no biggie. I simply came here to warn others.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » March 2, 2004, 5:59 am

Cartalas wrote:
cid wrote:Im selling my PP
Not a Very Big sale

$$

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » March 2, 2004, 6:01 am

Enchantress wrote:btw, FYI I am a time flagged enchanter with full elemental gear and some time drop gear, I know how to play my class and how to earn my loot. What prompted this was the fact that I have been waiting on Sony for over three weeks to do a character transfer, and have not recieved either a positive or negative reply from them regarding the matter. Therefor, out of frustration, I took my risk with a scammer, because I got tired of waiting on SoE to do something that I had paid them for, and saw no signs of happening. I was trying to do this in order to buy my friend, a cleric, some gear, to help her increase her mana pool, to benefit her guild on raids.

I am not coming here asking for sympathy, because I never gave more pps than I could stand to lose, no biggie. I simply came here to warn others.

Jesus christ you aren't that retarded Enchantresx~nameless idiot that we banned from fohguild are you?

Brittney · Post by **Brittney** » March 2, 2004, 6:10 am

LOL good question Shad, are you Enchantrex?

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » March 2, 2004, 7:21 am

Pahreyia wrote:You always run this risk when dealing with a person selling plat or items via any RL cash exchange. Perhaps you won't be like every other moron and throw a huge fit about getting ripped off because you engaged in something that most everyone, at least on VV, considers to be an immature and baseless act. Selling and Buying of plat is reprehensible and does nothing to improve your character because not only are you in gear that you could never have attained on your own, you are not becoming a better player for having gotten it. You're still just a crappy twink, but to a higher order of twink.

If you really _are_ that good of a player, join a guild that can get you the gear you want and you can be challenged in the game to the point where you do become more competant at your class.

Right because EQ is so hard.

Enchantress · Post by **Enchantress** » March 2, 2004, 11:04 am

LOL good question Shad, are you Enchantrex?

No, you wierdos I am not Enchantrix. I'm not even on your server yet! That's why I was trying to do this plat transfer.... are you guys reading what I say? Am I not clear enough? So much confusion, I'm sorry if I am being unclear. Just ask for clarification, if there is something that you have a question about, I don't mind explaining.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » March 2, 2004, 12:18 pm

hasn't been said, but

JACKASS

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » March 2, 2004, 12:41 pm

kyoukan wrote:
Pahreyia wrote:You always run this risk when dealing with a person selling plat or items via any RL cash exchange. Perhaps you won't be like every other moron and throw a huge fit about getting ripped off because you engaged in something that most everyone, at least on VV, considers to be an immature and baseless act. Selling and Buying of plat is reprehensible and does nothing to improve your character because not only are you in gear that you could never have attained on your own, you are not becoming a better player for having gotten it. You're still just a crappy twink, but to a higher order of twink.

If you really _are_ that good of a player, join a guild that can get you the gear you want and you can be challenged in the game to the point where you do become more competant at your class.
Right because EQ is so hard.

I didn't say it was hard. In fact, that's one of the biggest problems with it. There's 0 challenge anymore. However, it's abundantly clear when the people you are grouped with are competant versus competantly twinked.

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » March 2, 2004, 12:43 pm

Enchantress wrote:btw, FYI I am a time flagged enchanter with full elemental gear and some time drop gear, I know how to play my class and how to earn my loot. What prompted this was the fact that I have been waiting on Sony for over three weeks to do a character transfer, and have not recieved either a positive or negative reply from them regarding the matter. Therefor, out of frustration, I took my risk with a scammer, because I got tired of waiting on SoE to do something that I had paid them for, and saw no signs of happening. I was trying to do this in order to buy my friend, a cleric, some gear, to help her increase her mana pool, to benefit her guild on raids.

I am not coming here asking for sympathy, because I never gave more pps than I could stand to lose, no biggie. I simply came here to warn others.

Why not have your friend play on your server then? If they can be twinked with buyable gear still and you play a chanter, you can personally PL a cleric to 60+ in a matter of days.

Thanks for the heads up tho.. I'm sure someone had an alt named that up until a few days ago.

Post by **Sylvus** » March 2, 2004, 12:53 pm

Pahreyia wrote:Selling and Buying of plat is reprehensible and does nothing to improve your character because not only are you in gear that you could never have attained on your own, you are not becoming a better player for having gotten it. You're still just a crappy twink, but to a higher order of twink.

That's preposterous. Having a full-time job and a penchant for not sitting in front of my 40 hours a week, virtually all of my EQ time is devoted to raiding. Perhaps my guild does things differently than others, but I don't make a dime from raiding. I do get a lot of nice, no-drop gear, but that does little to make me any money. If I want to improve tradeskills, which is the biggest plat- and time-sink I've encountered in the game, I can either farm the stuff I need (which I don't have time to do) or I can spend plat (which I don' thave the time to make) on it.

If I actually felt the need for some pp, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. The time it would take to farm 100k worth of items would be on the order of 3-5x more than the time it would take me to buy 100k plat. The actual times involved in farming those items is just an assumption, but I think it holds true.

Psyloche · Post by **Psyloche** » March 2, 2004, 12:57 pm

Sylvus wrote:
Pahreyia wrote:Selling and Buying of plat is reprehensible and does nothing to improve your character because not only are you in gear that you could never have attained on your own, you are not becoming a better player for having gotten it. You're still just a crappy twink, but to a higher order of twink.
That's preposterous. Having a full-time job and a penchant for not sitting in front of my 40 hours a week, virtually all of my EQ time is devoted to raiding. Perhaps my guild does things differently than others, but I don't make a dime from raiding. I do get a lot of nice, no-drop gear, but that does little to make me any money. If I want to improve tradeskills, which is the biggest plat- and time-sink I've encountered in the game, I can either farm the stuff I need (which I don't have time to do) or I can spend plat (which I don' thave the time to make) on it.

If I actually felt the need for some pp, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. The time it would take to farm 100k worth of items would be on the order of 3-5x more than the time it would take me to buy 100k plat. The actual times involved in farming those items is just an assumption, but I think it holds true.

Too bad they don't offer Aid Grimmel earrings. I think thats about the only thing I'd ever consider buying because of the numerous other advantages to having somebody do that quest for you. F tradeskills with cacti. (Hey at least they got the new UI tho)

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » March 2, 2004, 2:49 pm

Enchantress wrote:LOL good question Shad, are you Enchantrex?

No, you wierdos I am not Enchantrix. I'm not even on your server yet! That's why I was trying to do this plat transfer.... are you guys reading what I say? Am I not clear enough? So much confusion, I'm sorry if I am being unclear. Just ask for clarification, if there is something that you have a question about, I don't mind explaining.

Your style of writing is exactly the same, which is why I asked.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » March 2, 2004, 3:37 pm

Pahreyia wrote:I didn't say it was hard. In fact, that's one of the biggest problems with it. There's 0 challenge anymore. However, it's abundantly clear when the people you are grouped with are competant versus competantly twinked.

What? They hit autoattack differently than you? I'm curious as to exactly what a dirty twink can't do that you can.

I thought we were kind of passed the stage in this game where a player can buy plat or something instead of fucking farming it without gimps like you squealing and lighting their hair on fire. Do you know how much my time is worth? A lot more than platinum is in Everquest that's for fucking sure. I've never bought plat for money in my life, but like Sylvus, I would in a heartbeat if I had to do it instead of fucking farming it.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » March 2, 2004, 6:25 pm

It hasn't been said yet, so I'll try.

Nobody gives a fuck about you getting scammed on a pp server transfer. In fact...most people are probably like me, laughing at you for being a tool.

Enchantress · Post by **Enchantress** » March 2, 2004, 6:44 pm

Nobody gives a fuck about you getting scammed on a pp server transfer. In fact...most people are probably like me, laughing at you for being a tool.

I'm hurt. Anyway, was just a heads up to the rest of you. Take care =D

Diae Soulmender · Post by **Diae Soulmender** » March 2, 2004, 7:45 pm

Enchantress wrote:Nobody gives a fuck about you getting scammed on a pp server transfer. In fact...most people are probably like me, laughing at you for being a tool.

I'm hurt. Anyway, was just a heads up to the rest of you. Take care =D

Welcome to Veeshan Vault.

Just a few things to keep in mind.

#1: We are an old server with some very crotchety old bastards.
#2: Veeshan Vault consists of about 50% Active Players and 50% Retired EQ Haters.
#3: The Community here is very ... open about giving people shit. It is expected shit to be given back in a forthright, concise and personal manner.
#4: Unknown people are generally treated with disdain, horror and outright hatred. Its not just you :)
#5: Once you become known, have a character on the server with a Public Name of Character known your respect in the community will grow.

If people tell you that you are a JACKASS it is as close to saying "Howdy and Welcome" as you will get.

Just a few things for ya :)

JACKASS

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » March 2, 2004, 9:09 pm

Diae Soulmender wrote:
Enchantress wrote:Nobody gives a fuck about you getting scammed on a pp server transfer. In fact...most people are probably like me, laughing at you for being a tool.

I'm hurt. Anyway, was just a heads up to the rest of you. Take care =D
Welcome to Veeshan Vault.

Just a few things to keep in mind.

#1: We are an old server with some very crotchety old bastards.
#2: Veeshan Vault consists of about 50% Active Players and 50% Retired EQ Haters.
#3: The Community here is very ... open about giving people shit. It is expected shit to be given back in a forthright, concise and personal manner.
#4: Unknown people are generally treated with disdain, horror and outright hatred. Its not just you
#5: Once you become known, have a character on the server with a Public Name of Character known your respect in the community will grow.

If people tell you that you are a JACKASS it is as close to saying "Howdy and Welcome" as you will get.

Just a few things for ya

JACKASS

Also take note that that is the only jackass you have been given so far in this thread. Take it as a message.

Asheran Mojomaster · Post by **Asheran Mojomaster** » March 2, 2004, 11:20 pm

Diae Soulmender wrote:
Enchantress wrote:Nobody gives a fuck about you getting scammed on a pp server transfer. In fact...most people are probably like me, laughing at you for being a tool.

I'm hurt. Anyway, was just a heads up to the rest of you. Take care =D
Welcome to Veeshan Vault.

Just a few things to keep in mind.

#1: We are an old server with some very crotchety old bastards.
#2: Veeshan Vault consists of about 50% Active Players and 50% Retired EQ Haters.
#3: The Community here is very ... open about giving people shit. It is expected shit to be given back in a forthright, concise and personal manner.
#4: Unknown people are generally treated with disdain, horror and outright hatred. Its not just you
#5: Once you become known, have a character on the server with a Public Name of Character known your respect in the community will grow.

If people tell you that you are a JACKASS it is as close to saying "Howdy and Welcome" as you will get.

Just a few things for ya

JACKASS

Fuck You Diae.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » March 3, 2004, 12:21 am

Dregor, I know reading is hard for Canadians, but please try harder next time. I JACKASS'd our new tool earlier in the thread.

Oh and I think Diae's post should be stickied as the welcome message for VV. He sums it all up!

Enchantress · Post by **Enchantress** » March 3, 2004, 12:35 am

Hehe, Oh I don't mind the rude responses, as long as the messaged reached people that it might help. I am not a stranger to EQ boards, and I know about "those" people who want to flame anything that crosses thier screen. That's fine, if they want to take the time to respond to my posts, then that's just more thought they are giving it. Usually, I just don't respond to those kinds of posts because I am too busy, posting at school between classes or something.

Thanks for the nice post, though. Hehe, for those others who want to post flames for whatever reason.... that's fine, you guys are what make the EQ boards entertaining most of the time.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » March 3, 2004, 12:41 am

You don't get it. These forums were formed with the express purpose of flaming. It's the norm here. It's not If you flame, it's How well you flame.

Fesuni Chopsui · Post by **Fesuni Chopsui** » March 3, 2004, 1:56 am

Dregor Thule wrote:You don't get it. These forums were formed with the express purpose of flaming. It's the norm here. It's not If you flame, it's How well you flame.

Fuck you, asslicking mother fucker!

Diae Soulmender · Post by **Diae Soulmender** » March 3, 2004, 2:20 am

Lalanae wrote:Oh and I think Diae's post should be stickied as the welcome message for VV. He sums it all up!

Diae for President!

Diae Soulmender · Post by **Diae Soulmender** » March 3, 2004, 2:21 am

Asheran Mojomaster wrote:Fuck You Diae. :x

My balls are on your chin.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » March 3, 2004, 2:33 am

I was told not to trust Vancouver folk.

Diae Soulmender · Post by **Diae Soulmender** » March 3, 2004, 3:07 am

Canelek wrote:I was told not to trust Vancouver folk. :shock:

I know I sure wouldnt!

--heh

Badpassion Seelentrinker · March 3, 2004, 7:58 am

"Diae Soulmender"

Welcome to Veeshan Vault.

Just a few things to keep in mind.

#1: We are an old server with some very crotchety old bastards.
#2: Veeshan Vault consists of about 50% Active Players and 50% Retired EQ Haters.
#3: The Community here is very ... open about giving people shit. It is expected shit to be given back in a forthright, concise and personal manner.
#4: Unknown people are generally treated with disdain, horror and outright hatred. Its not just you
#5: Once you become known, have a character on the server with a Public Name of Character known your respect in the community will grow.

If people tell you that you are a JACKASS it is as close to saying "Howdy and Welcome" as you will get.

Just a few things for ya

JACKASS

LOL and funny as hell sometimes

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » March 3, 2004, 10:50 am

People that can't quote need to be flamed.

Badpassion Seelentrinker · March 4, 2004, 5:26 am

Bah oops

Forthe wrote:People that can't quote need to be flamed.