Hipocracy in high end guilds

noel · Post by **noel** » December 9, 2003, 10:19 pm

Nono! Keep banning! I was just attempting to explain what I think Kyoukan is getting at... I could be completely wrong, and don't wish to speak for her.

More bans!

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » December 9, 2003, 10:25 pm

I'm just wondering why he got banned?

I can see if someone made a fake name and posted something like "furor sucks dick, lol" I wouldn't ban them for doing that but whatever; it's your rule.

banning someone for the simple fact they aren't using their in game name confuses me. they weren't ranting against anyone personally or trying to hurt anyone's feelings. other people post without using their in game name, are you going to ban them all?

however it's your web site, you can ban whoever you want.

Post by **Xouqoa** » December 9, 2003, 10:32 pm

In general we ban everyone who posts and doesn't use an in game name or include it in a sig or something. There are rare circumstances (such as NEO) where the person doesn't play EQ at all, so they are allowed to remain so long as they don't become a nuisance.

I don't like banning people at all, but that's one rule I've tried very hard to enforce from the IGN days.

noel · Post by **noel** » December 9, 2003, 10:36 pm

BAN EVERYONE! BAN until it hurts!

DON'T GIVE UP SIR!

Just keep banning until the complaining stops!

Ban until they're afraid to make a move for fear of offending you! Ban until the sky turns dark, and splits in two and a little sheep plays a horn and the fields run red with blood and th--- err

oops...

Sorry lost it there for a second!

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » December 9, 2003, 10:46 pm

kyoukan wrote:he does have a point although he fucking whines about it too much.

clerics are easily, _easily_ the gayest class to play in EQ. you can play the entire game all night in an 8 hour raid with your index finger and be the most effective cleric in the game. you can loot and wear the best items around and be slightly more effective than some shithead still in his gold quest armor. nobody fucking appreciates you.

why did he get banned? he didn't mention anyone or any guild specifically.

As amazingly easy as it is to be a raid cleric, you can still fucking suck shit. All the clerical talent I experienced was either twoboxed, a shaman, or Sirensa. The latter having a big mean streak when it came to stragis ((
I'll agree that the cleric role has been reduced to a big bag of gay, but it takes a bit more than an index finger to be an effective big bag of gay.

edit: i meant shaman, not paladin. sorry ashur

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Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » December 9, 2003, 10:50 pm

Not to mention the person's name WAS firestarter, so it was obviously an invite to flame...knew that without looking at anything else.

Zygar_ Cthulhukin · Post by **Zygar_ Cthulhukin** » December 9, 2003, 10:59 pm

You are forgetting The Matrix movies...... NEO > TheMachine....NEO is the anomoly that will bring TheMachine down!

Skunki · Post by **Skunki** » December 9, 2003, 11:20 pm

stragi you hurt my feelings

hehe

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » December 9, 2003, 11:40 pm

that's an unusual rule, and one I wasn't familiar with.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » December 10, 2003, 9:10 am

skunki
))

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » December 10, 2003, 9:59 am

he's a dickless coward who obviously knows very little about what it takes to run and maintain an efficient high end guild. The recruitment process for most of these guilds exists for many reasons, one which is to gage whether a new recruit is an asset or a liability regardless of their class. Yes REGARDLESS of their class. This moron has been and will continue to be a headache to many guild leaders and officers across many servers as he freely admits. His anonimity preserves his ability to be a parasite to whichever unfortunate guild he belongs to. The only thing more cowardly than hiding your true identity is hiding your identity in a fucking game.

fucking pathetic.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » December 10, 2003, 10:59 am

Kyoukan if you do not know who The Machine is, then you are yet again proving that you are a clueless idiot.

Hell I have known who The Machine was since the days of IGN vault, he could not use his ingame name because it would have made him entirely ineffective as a mod.

I support the banning of anonymous flamers, and idiots who argue with The Machine.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » December 10, 2003, 11:19 am

I don't know who the machine is. Since it's a widely known fact, tell me.

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » December 10, 2003, 11:45 am

I wouldn't mind knowing who he is myself, considering that this isn't an IGN forum. It's a forum run by Veeshan players for Veeshan players. Knowing who he is in-game now doesn't effect his mod status anymore.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » December 10, 2003, 12:02 pm

or just perhaps he wanted to vent without having every single witch hunt assmonkey jump his shit in game....
God forbid someome speak their mind...

Post by **Sylvus** » December 10, 2003, 12:46 pm

Well, he was violating one of the three rules that have been laid down on this board. The anon thing by itself is a case-by-case thing, as is trolling, but this account was created specifically to troll anonymously. Read the content of the message and the poster's name. They came here with the intent of talking shit in a vague manner.

Does everyone who trolls or is anonymous get banned? No. But not everyone who speeds gets pulled over either, he just happened to fly past the wrong "officer" at the wrong time. The message was basically worthless anyway, had he not been so vague and started up a solid flamewar, I certainly would have been against banning him so quickly. As it is, perhaps that'll be a lesson for people in the future.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » December 10, 2003, 1:10 pm

Ask him KK, you have known him under another name is all I am going to say.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 10, 2003, 1:19 pm

This board needs assclowns to survive!

I'm willing to overlook overbearing moderation if you allow mod titles to be changed! How much fun is creating your own title staying in your safe little world!

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » December 10, 2003, 2:08 pm

hrm, clueless retard here then.
Who is he?

Post by **Sylvus** » December 10, 2003, 2:24 pm

Winnow wrote:I'm willing to overlook overbearing moderation if you allow mod titles to be changed! How much fun is creating your own title staying in your safe little world!

K, I just either figured out how to make it so the regular users can change titles for admins and mods, or I just broke all that functionality. Please test it out and let me know. I can't really test it as I could always change everyone's titles.

Cross your fingers!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 10, 2003, 2:28 pm

Sylvus wrote:
Winnow wrote:I'm willing to overlook overbearing moderation if you allow mod titles to be changed! How much fun is creating your own title staying in your safe little world!
K, I just either figured out how to make it so the regular users can change titles for admins and mods, or I just broke all that functionality. Please test it out and let me know. I can't really test it as I could always change everyone's titles.

Cross your fingers!

Didnt work : ( tried to change Drolgins..said can't change admin titles.

You cannot change the rank of Admins or Moderators!

Post by **Sylvus** » December 10, 2003, 2:30 pm

/edit: how bout now?

Xanupox · Post by **Xanupox** » December 10, 2003, 2:31 pm

<----- LOOK AT THOSE VV's!!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 10, 2003, 2:33 pm

Works!!!11!!1!

Post by **Sylvus** » December 10, 2003, 2:34 pm

I am the smartest man alive!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 10, 2003, 2:37 pm

Nice work sylvus! Drolgin got his title and your title is prep'd for change!

Drolgin Steingrinder · December 10, 2003, 2:38 pm

why you little...

And it's Miller Lite, fewl - just check the pictures!

noel · Post by **noel** » December 10, 2003, 2:39 pm

Now if only people with 'None' could be changed, Sylvus would be my hero and I would be forced to send him beer for Christmas.

Post by **Sylvus** » December 10, 2003, 2:42 pm

No beer necessary, I'll look into it.

I'm not making any promises, but now that I know where to look for this stuff, shouldn't be too difficult.

Ennia · Post by **Ennia** » December 10, 2003, 2:42 pm

Re: Rule#3

Since Searyx appears to be gone maybe we can take applications for a new troll?
Or vote? take volunteers? Nominate someone?

Firestarter at least got the name right. Unban him/her?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 10, 2003, 2:45 pm

Ack! my

Drolgin Steingrinder
Budweiser King of Beers

lasted 10 seconds! : ) Is american beer that bad?!!11!!1

LOL : ) You found the picture before me.
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That's Miller though! Bud is MUUUUCH better

Drolgin Steingrinder · December 10, 2003, 2:47 pm

Do you have to ask?

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » December 10, 2003, 2:51 pm

I like 'None'! Don't be getting my chi in a funk!

Xanupox · Post by **Xanupox** » December 10, 2003, 2:52 pm

Winnow
Arumans Whore

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 10, 2003, 2:56 pm

Xanupox wrote:Winnow
Arumans Whore

Now that's low!

Kyria · Post by **Kyria** » December 10, 2003, 3:04 pm

Xanupox wrote:

<----- LOOK AT THOSE VV's!!

Share! Please!

Shashonna · Post by **Shashonna** » December 10, 2003, 3:10 pm

Sharing is nice

I want a title but some of these titles scare me.

Zeep · Post by **Zeep** » December 10, 2003, 3:34 pm

I feel obligated to post on this thread since there is so many other old time CT'ers.

Oh yeah.. and fucktard shouda been banned. It was the right call. Don't know who the machine is??? Oh how quickly we forget our history....

Back to lurking...

Arundel Pajo · Post by **Arundel Pajo** » December 10, 2003, 3:44 pm

You know....I've been around sporadically since way before VV left IGN, and I don't think I've *ever* really known who the Machine is... I haven't played in something like 2 years, but I'd still sorta like to know.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » December 10, 2003, 3:49 pm

popples

Drolgin Steingrinder · December 10, 2003, 3:51 pm

There is no conspiracy. There is no cabal. We do not talk about The fnord. You have no need to know who The Machine is.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » December 10, 2003, 4:00 pm

hay dewd read irc
lolols farm

Xanupox · Post by **Xanupox** » December 10, 2003, 4:03 pm

Kyra wrote:
Xanupox wrote:

<----- LOOK AT THOSE VV's!!

Share! Please!

Ok, I shared.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » December 10, 2003, 4:05 pm

Xouqoa wrote:I can't win.

I ban someone, people wonder why. I don't ban someone, I get asked to do it.

I give up!

Ban him\her after we find out who it is!

So sad that he\she will never be given the chance to fuckup and give us some clues :/

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » December 10, 2003, 4:13 pm

Zeep wrote:I feel obligated to post on this thread since there is so many other old time CT'ers.

Oh yeah.. and fucktard shouda been banned. It was the right call. Don't know who the machine is??? Oh how quickly we forget our history....

Back to lurking...

Heya gnome

I do not know who the machine is. I once believed Sparty's claims to be the machine but then I sobered up.

My name is Sparty.

Kyria · Post by **Kyria** » December 10, 2003, 4:13 pm

Xanupox wrote:
Kyra wrote:
Xanupox wrote:

<----- LOOK AT THOSE VV's!!

Share! Please!
Ok, I shared.

Merry Christmas me!

Seebs · Post by **Seebs** » December 10, 2003, 4:17 pm

Zeep gnome just crawled out from under my desk. he got him some Golden Griddle baby!!

Xanupox · Post by **Xanupox** » December 10, 2003, 4:18 pm

Shashonna wrote:Sharing is nice

I want a title but some of these titles scare me.

You got some too... HO HO HO

Shashonna · Post by **Shashonna** » December 10, 2003, 4:54 pm

!! WOW, Thanks *hugs*

zenoran · Post by **zenoran** » December 10, 2003, 8:29 pm

I honestly think this place would be much more entertaining if people weren't banned at all. Sometimes people wanna say things but aren't comfortable saying them under their original name for whatever reason. So what?

As long as they're making a valid argument or a good flame about something people agree about why must you ban them? What's the reasoning behind it other than just cuz you want to? Isn't this a forum to have fun and interact with the people of Veeshan? Let the "regulars" do their share of handling the "anon" people by throwing the flames at 'em full force... You KNOW that's what we all want... to read a good flame thread.

JUST SAY NO TO MODERATION!!!!11!!!11

haheahe k.