Looks Like no expense being spared in development

Seebs · Post by **Seebs** » November 21, 2003, 12:43 pm

I know many of you are heading to WoW and are not giving EQII a second thought. I'm probably heading to EQII.

Regardless, attached is the theme to EQII performed by an 84 piece orchestra. If this amount of attention is being paid to the music, I'd hope the content would be equally as rich.

Flame if you like, I'm just saying the theme sounds great.

Enjoy.

http://eq2.stratics.com/content/interviews/eq2theme.mp3

Edit: Right-Click, save target as ...

Taly · Post by **Taly** » November 21, 2003, 12:46 pm

Bleh this page can not be displayed

Seebs · Post by **Seebs** » November 21, 2003, 1:04 pm

Still works for me. Not sure if you have to be a member of stratics.

Very Indiana Jones -esque

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » November 21, 2003, 1:16 pm

Right-Click, Save Target As...

Siji · Post by **Siji** » November 21, 2003, 4:33 pm

It reminds me of the nervousness I had in my stomach the first time I started walking around in Norrath.. the coolness of seeing and meeting other people doing the same thing..

It's sad that the innocence is gone and my brain knows that it'll just be another sucky time sink where you get to deal with jerks and code bugs..

Nice music though.

Arborealus · Post by **Arborealus** » November 21, 2003, 4:51 pm

Hrmmm a lot of folks are going neither direction...I know I have 0 desire to start another MMORPG...

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Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » November 21, 2003, 5:00 pm

WOW.. no thanks

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 21, 2003, 5:05 pm

I'll go wherever the hottest character models are. Gotta have priorities.

Rivera Bladestrike · November 21, 2003, 5:06 pm

Yeah those Tauren females, (orgasm)....

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » November 21, 2003, 5:10 pm

EQ 2 it shall be.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » November 21, 2003, 5:39 pm

why cant you play both. EQ2 will probably be out 3 and a half years before WoW given blizzard's awful track record for being lazy and incompetent and taking too fucking long to release unfinished crap.

archeiron · Post by **archeiron** » November 21, 2003, 6:10 pm

kyoukan wrote:why cant you play both. EQ2 will probably be out 3 and a half years before WoW given blizzard's awful track record for being lazy and incompetent and taking too fucking long to release unfinished crap.

Did you play EQ at all for the past four years??! EQ was some incomptence and taking too long to release unfinished crap (especially after Verant left the scene). Ask the big kids about the PoTime cockblocking or the Vex Thal never-ending key quest, SOE's record for deliverying finished products on time is very bad.

WoW will be out like eleventy billion years before EQ2 beta begins, in my opinion. They seem to be putting a huge amount of love and nuturing into WoW and I suspect it will show in the next few months when beta goes out and then when release occurs. Although to be honest, the dark horse that is FFXI seems to have a LOT going for it, so I wouldn't be surprised if the other two big name releases don't live up to the hype that is being built up now.

Nothing will replace the "newness" that the original EQ offered to this community. It wasn't truly groundbreaking technology, but the size and longevity of the player base has been something special despite the poor quality of the game.

Ennia · Post by **Ennia** » November 21, 2003, 7:42 pm

I think I turned off music in EQ around Velious or whenever it was when they added that stupid attack music.
All I know now is I won't be playing a game with item decay no matter how beautiful music or character models or some other eye candy is.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » November 21, 2003, 10:39 pm

yeah hopefully as much love and nurturing they put into diablo 2.

Ramius · Post by **Ramius** » November 21, 2003, 10:45 pm

kyoukan wrote:awful track record for being lazy and incompetent and taking too fucking long to release unfinished crap.

Heh, are you sure your not talking about Sony here? Because if not you have sure described them down to a T!

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » November 21, 2003, 11:09 pm

yer both right. Don't play anything. You'll be happier in the end.

Karae · Post by **Karae** » November 22, 2003, 4:42 am

Taly wrote:Bleh this page can not be displayed

When you see this error it means you're a fucking moron and don't have file extensions set up to play that file type through your browser. Right click and save it.

Karae · Post by **Karae** » November 22, 2003, 4:44 am

Ramius wrote:
Heh, are you sure your not talking about Sony here? Because if not you have sure described them down to a T!

Bullshit. Sony always releases their unfinished crap on time.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » November 22, 2003, 6:24 am

Karae wrote:Bullshit. Sony always releases their unfinished crap on time.

that's what I was going to say. at least sony's unfinished crap isn't always 3 years behind schedule and takes 18 months to patch.

I'm sure WoW will be a good game but I get so fucking tired of this whole omg blizzard can do no wrong worlds of warcraft will be the saviour of mmorpgs attitude. the only game blizzard has ever released that remotely resembles an online rpg has been diablo. that game was extremely simplistic, took them like 2 years too long to develop, and was and continues to this day to be a completely broken and totally unplayable fucking mess where fully half the skills and 3 of the classes are entirely worthless, is absolutely rife with bugs and exploits and blizzard appears to be wholly incompetent about fixing it.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » November 22, 2003, 8:11 am

You realize a huge portion of the WoW Dev. team is coming right out of EQ, most if not all from uber guilds?

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » November 22, 2003, 10:53 am

kyoukan wrote:I'm sure WoW will be a good game but I get so fucking tired of this whole omg blizzard can do no wrong worlds of warcraft will be the saviour of mmorpgs attitude. the only game blizzard has ever released that remotely resembles an online rpg has been diablo. that game was extremely simplistic, took them like 2 years too long to develop, and was and continues to this day to be a completely broken and totally unplayable fucking mess where fully half the skills and 3 of the classes are entirely worthless, is absolutely rife with bugs and exploits and blizzard appears to be wholly incompetent about fixing it.

Well yeah.. but Diablo had all the data in the client's hands. It was like playing battleship w/ a cheating bastard ~ "D4!" "*shit* Uhh, no wait.. miss!"

Vaemas · Post by **Vaemas** » November 22, 2003, 12:35 pm

Stragi wrote:You realize a huge portion of the WoW Dev. team is coming right out of EQ, most if not all from uber guilds?

So they code between LDON raids?

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » November 22, 2003, 12:38 pm

WOW reminds me of bad anime on crack.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 22, 2003, 12:50 pm

kyoukan wrote:
Karae wrote:
I'm sure WoW will be a good game but I get so fucking tired of this whole omg blizzard can do no wrong worlds of warcraft will be the saviour of mmorpgs attitude.

One of the few things I agree with kyoukan on. Blizzard lovers crack me up. The box could contain petrified dogshit and even say that on the outside of the box but if it's labeled Blizzard, it's got to be good and worth the 5 years in development! WoW is being hyped to the moon.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » November 22, 2003, 3:45 pm

Stragi wrote:You realize a huge portion of the WoW Dev. team is coming right out of EQ, most if not all from uber guilds?

that gives me even less faith than before. a game designed by a bunch of spoiled fat kids with egos surpassing their social skills demanding to get their own way. I'm sure the sissy fights that erupt in the studio are humorous as hell to watch though.

Taly · Post by **Taly** » November 22, 2003, 6:53 pm

Karae wrote:
Taly wrote:Bleh this page can not be displayed
When you see this error it means you're a fucking moron and don't have file extensions set up to play that file type through your browser. Right click and save it.

Whoa or you are a fucking moron since i found out my internet was screwing up! dumbass!

Heard it. sounds ok. not to overly impressed

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » November 22, 2003, 7:01 pm

wow u have ur own internat?

Ebumar · Post by **Ebumar** » November 23, 2003, 1:39 am

Lmfao, Kyoukan cracks me up.

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KYOUKAN. There I said it. She's great.

Ogbar · Post by **Ogbar** » November 24, 2003, 10:18 am

The theme does indeed sound great - thanks for the link, Seebs.

Right now, I can't imagine playing EQ 2, but I say never say never, so who knows. WoW does zero for me, so I know I wont be playing that.

Personally, I will be playing City of Heroes ... should it ever come out.

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » November 24, 2003, 11:16 am

Stragi wrote:You realize a huge portion of the WoW Dev. team is coming right out of EQ, most if not all from uber guilds?

Jesus christ, that's a selling point? Why should I care about what catass's think is best?

Hrmmm a lot of folks are going neither direction...I know I have 0 desire to start another MMORPG......

Bingo. Fuck if I'm going to try to start another one of these style games.

Jugata · Post by **Jugata** » November 24, 2003, 1:45 pm

Going to try WoW for sure.

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » November 24, 2003, 2:03 pm

I played a little FFIX this weekend and was reminded why I vowed never to start another MMORPG. I'm sure they'll all be quality games, but 3 years into EQ is plenty for me.

The thought of pouring another 3 years into a game like that just to be a year and a half behind the forerunners of the game is more than I care to commit to.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 24, 2003, 2:21 pm

Ogbar wrote:
Personally, I will be playing City of Heroes ... should it ever come out.

Vaporware! City of Heroes looked so promising back in the day...it's close to being on the level of Duke Nuke'em Forever vaporware status.

WoW is pretty cartoony. If I want cartoons I'll watch hentai, er anime...whichever one has the tentacles!

Most likely it will be EQ2, if anything, for a long lasting game switch. I reserve the right to jump on the WoW bandwagon though. I have carefully left loopholes in my Blizzard bashing. Will there be tentacle monsters in WoW?

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » November 24, 2003, 2:43 pm

Winnow wrote:WoW is pretty cartoony. If I want cartoons I'll watch hentai, er anime...whichever one has the tentacles!

Most likely it will be EQ2, if anything, for a long lasting game switch. I reserve the right to jump on the WoW bandwagon though. I have carefully left loopholes in my Blizzard bashing. Will there be tentacle monsters in WoW?

Given the reference, I would question what you would want those tentacle monsters to _do_ with those tentacles in order to capture your attention.

If it's just plain old tentacle monsters you want, I saw some tunnel worms and malboros in FFIX that were pretty "tentaclly."

Skogen · Post by **Skogen** » November 24, 2003, 3:10 pm

I personally love the cartoony look of the WoW models. Trying to go for a super-realistic look is the wrong direction IMHO. Like someone else said, the EQII models look like scarey dolls. No thanks. Give me the artsy look!

archeiron · Post by **archeiron** » November 24, 2003, 4:39 pm

Skogen wrote:I personally love the cartoony look of the WoW models. Trying to go for a super-realistic look is the wrong direction IMHO. Like someone else said, the EQII models look like scarey dolls. No thanks. Give me the artsy look!

One day in the "not so distant" future, EQII's graphics will look dated and old fashioned in much the same way that the original EQ graphics look old and outdated now.

From a technological standpoint, the WoW graphics will fall by the wayside much sooner than the EQ2 graphics.

I suspect that what will make up for that will be the artistic style of WoW's graphics. When both look dated, the WoW graphics will be more palatable due to their 'style'.

Does this mean that I will refuse to play EQII? Does this mean that Blizzard is superfly and SOE is ghey??!

No and no. Those were just limited pro's and con's that I can see concerning two unreleased games by two games houses that have never built a new MMORPG before. (The people who have the experience to say that they have built a new MMORPG work at places like Sigil, and God only knows what they are doing.

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It is true that the Blizzard cock sucking has gone way too far, and the game will never live up to the hype. I suspect that the game will actually be fun, playable, and enjoyable, despite its inability to live up to the fanboi hype.

I suspect that those asshats at SOE will probably make a good game too. After living through 4 years of EQ, you will excuse me if I am somewhat reluctant to jump back in to their (cess)pool. Having said that, I will probably do it anyway, and then join the masses complaining about it afterwards

Seebs · Post by **Seebs** » November 24, 2003, 4:47 pm

Models are nice but I'm looking for immersion and content.

The more realistic and dynamic the world, the more I'm immersed.

Not that my life is bad and I'm trying to hide from anybody or anything .. no really.

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » November 24, 2003, 5:18 pm

I plan on trying both, reguardless of what the graphics look like. What I care about is how well my computer can handle them, not their appearance.

Vailex Darkfury · Post by **Vailex Darkfury** » November 24, 2003, 5:21 pm

Ill give em both a try. Hell i may even put on some tights and try City of Heroes as well. After that free month though, Ill choose one. Its all about that free month! Seemed to work out for me and DAoC. At the end of that free month I wasnt impressed so I went back to EQ. Was a wise decision.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 24, 2003, 6:48 pm

Vailex Darkfury wrote:After that free month though, Ill choose one. Its all about that free month!

You mean that 49.99 free month?

noel · Post by **noel** » November 24, 2003, 6:51 pm

City of Heroes to my knowledge has neither a release date, or any type of beta testing going on. Until such time, the game is vapor.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » November 24, 2003, 7:46 pm

Aranuil wrote:City of Heroes to my knowledge has neither a release date, or any type of beta testing going on. Until such time, the game is vapor.

So you're wearing tights just for fun?

noel · Post by **noel** » November 24, 2003, 7:47 pm

masteen wrote:
Aranuil wrote:City of Heroes to my knowledge has neither a release date, or any type of beta testing going on. Until such time, the game is vapor.
So you're wearing tights just for fun?

Lol... close.