Hooray for soviet style propaganda in schools!

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » October 28, 2003, 12:39 am

why would the RIAA owe the money? they aren't a record company. nobody sued the RIAA for fixing prices.

you don't even know what you are talking about. all this "I heard this from somewhere" accusations are pointless. you're so busy demonizing the RIAA so you can rationalize stealing music or whatever that you have totally abandoned logic.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » October 28, 2003, 2:17 am

why would the RIAA owe the money? they aren't a record company. nobody sued the RIAA for fixing prices.

the riaa is completly composed entirely of record companies and control more then 85% of recorded music in America. You do understand when I say riaa I mean the record companies that control almost all record music america right?

Nobody sued? The FTC settled with them for 123million dollars for the 480million they gained illegaly.

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » October 28, 2003, 3:45 am

Good thing this thread has nothing to do with the RIAA. The MPAA has no suit against it. Therefore, Sionistic, your reasoning is completely wrong.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » October 28, 2003, 5:09 am

Sionistic wrote: the riaa is completly composed entirely of record companies and control more then 85% of recorded music in America. You do understand when I say riaa I mean the record companies that control almost all record music america right?

Nobody sued? The FTC settled with them for 123million dollars for the 480million they gained illegaly.

If you go to a dentist and he fucks up your teeth do you sue the dentist or the american dental association?

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » October 28, 2003, 9:38 am

kyoukan wrote:
Sionistic wrote: the riaa is completly composed entirely of record companies and control more then 85% of recorded music in America. You do understand when I say riaa I mean the record companies that control almost all record music america right?

Nobody sued? The FTC settled with them for 123million dollars for the 480million they gained illegaly.
If you go to a dentist and he fucks up your teeth do you sue the dentist or the american dental association?

In this day in age you sue the Dentist,American Dental Association,The maker of your tooth brush,the electric provider for the drill, and the Office manager.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » October 28, 2003, 10:33 am

as to now, the riaa has yet to pay the 123million tab

They're still waiting to sue more MP3 pirates.. that way they can use that money to pay off that debt with. How ironic. They sue their customers for the money, then pay their customers back with the money they took from them.

And regardless of all the arguing above.. who actually honestly believes high-school (or lower) kids are going to give a rats ass about what the MPAA or RIAA says about copyright laws? I mean seriously.. They're going to listen, nod, take whatever freebie shit they hand out, then go home and download the latest shit from Shareza or wherever.

Kargyle · Post by **Kargyle** » October 28, 2003, 11:54 am

First, it wasn't the RIAA that got sued, it was several (4 I think) of the biggest record companies. I think Sony and Universal were among them.

I wasn't aware that the suit had not been payed out, but I still fail to see how that justifies you stealing from them. Dress it up in whatever language you like, they never forced you to buy their CDs. They did get you to buy them at an inflated price, but at the time you obviously felt that the goods you were receiving were worth that inflated price.

But, like Vetiria said, this article has nothing to do with the RIAA, and the no company in the MPAA has been sued for price fixing to my knowledge, so as far as this article goes all the people advocating digital theft don't have a morally outraged leg to stand on.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » October 28, 2003, 1:39 pm

They're still waiting to sue more MP3 pirates.. that way they can use that money to pay off that debt with. How ironic. They sue their customers for the money, then pay their customers back with the money they took from them.

They're not suing their customers nitwit, they are suing thieves. The customers actually buy the shit, not steal it.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » October 28, 2003, 1:51 pm

I'm just glad my ISP told the RIAA to stuff it when they were trying to intimidate them into forking over user records.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » October 28, 2003, 3:27 pm

Xyun wrote:They're not suing their customers nitwit, they are suing thieves. The customers actually buy the shit, not steal it.

You can be both.. I still buy CDs as well as download. And a lot of the stuff I buy is bands I wouldn't have heard otherwise for the most part.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » October 28, 2003, 4:55 pm

Kargyle wrote:First, it wasn't the RIAA that got sued, it was several (4 I think) of the biggest record companies. I think Sony and Universal were among them.

The Distributor Defendants are: Capitol Records, Inc. d/b/a EMI Music Distribution, Virgin Records America, Inc., and Priority Records LLC; Time Warner, Inc., Warner-Elektra-Atlantic Corp., WEA, Inc., Warner Music Group, Inc., Warner Bros. Records, Inc., Atlantic Recording Corporation, Elektra Entertainment Group, Inc., and Rhino Entertainment Company; Universal Music & Video Distribution Corporation, Universal Music Group, Inc., and UMG Recordings, Inc.; Bertelsmann Music Group, Inc. and BMG Music; and Sony Music Entertainment Inc. The Retailer Defendants are: MTS, Inc. d/b/a Tower Records, Musicland Stores Corp., and Trans World Entertainment Corp.

The RIAA Board of Directors represents leadership from a cross section of record labels. The board members are:
• Roger Ames, Warner Music Group
• Michele Anthony, Sony Music Entertainment Inc.
• Val Azzoli, The Atlantic Group
• Mitch Bainwol, RIAA
• Jose Behar, Univision Music Group
• Bob Cavallo, Buena Vista Music Group
• Ronnie Dashev, Maverick Recording Company
• Clive Davis, RCA Music Group
• Tracey Edmonds, Edmonds Record Group
• Dick Griffey, Solar Records/J.Hines Co.
• Zach Horowitz, Universal Music Group
• Don Ienner, Sony Music U.S.
• David Johnson, Warner Music Group
• Lawrence Kenswil, Universal Music Group
• Mel Lewinter, Universal Music Group
• Alain Levy, EMI Recorded Music
• Roy Lott, Virgin Records
• David Munns, EMI Recorded Music Worldwide
• Antonio Reid, Arista Records Inc.
• Sylvia Rhone, Elektra Entertainment Group
• Rolf Schmidt-Holtz, BMG Entertainment
• Tom Silverman, Tommy Boy Music
• Andy Slater, Capitol Records
• Michael Smellie, BMG Entertainment
• Thomas Stein, BMG Entertainment
• Tom Tyrrell, Sony Music Entertainment, Inc.
• Barry Weiss, BMG Entertainment

Kargyle · Post by **Kargyle** » October 28, 2003, 4:59 pm

Well, that is still several, hehe. I'll admit that that is quite a few more than four however.