Canadian engineer unfairly deported to Syria comes home

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » October 7, 2003, 6:15 am

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/10/05/arar031005

For those that don't know, Maher Arar is a Syrian-born Canadian citizen who, upon arriving at JFK airport in New York to switch planes to one bound back to Toronto was arrested by US officials for "being brown." They held him for awhile and couldn't find anything to charge him on so they prompty pushed him onto a plane and deported him back to Syria: a hostile country he fled and has not returned to in almost two decades.

Syria held him in their prison for over a year before finally letting him out of custody and to return to Canada.

US officials announced there would be no inquiry as to why a Canadian citizen was unlawfully deported to a hostile country.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » October 7, 2003, 9:21 am

Typical one sided full of lies Kyoukan post, ignoring the fact that if the Canadian government had given a fuck it would have been fixed but they kept drifting.

He was not deported for "being brown" he was deported for being a suspected member of AlQaeda, which is a legal choice for the US to make, we can bounce whomever we wish from our borders, deal with it.

Kyoukan then makes 15 years, into almost two decades, nope 19, even pushing it 18 is almost two decades, not 15 years. Just another example of slanting the news. I am glad you posted the link which had facts rather than your slanderous spew of bullshit.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » October 7, 2003, 9:59 am

Yes Kylere thank god you're here to list the "FACTs".

I really don't know where we'd be otherwise.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » October 7, 2003, 10:26 am

kyoukan wrote: US officials announced there would be no inquiry as to why a Canadian citizen was unlawfully deported to a hostile country.

Why would there be? This is not Canada. Like Kylere said, we can refuse anyone we want. If Canada was so concerned about their citizen, why did they not come get him or make necessary arrangements? Just because he is a Canadian citizen does not grant him any type of special global status to which he gets special privileges, same for an American.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » October 7, 2003, 10:41 am

Krimson Klaw wrote:
kyoukan wrote: US officials announced there would be no inquiry as to why a Canadian citizen was unlawfully deported to a hostile country.
Why would there be? This is not Canada. Like Kylere said, we can refuse anyone we want. If Canada was so concerned about their citizen, why did they not come get him or make necessary arrangements? Just because he is a Canadian citizen does not grant him any type of special global status to which he gets special privileges, same for an American.

Fair enough, but why send him to Syria rather than Canada?

The Canadian government is being way too quiet about this, suspiciously so. I'm sure we don't have the full story but from what we do know it seems he was sent there for "being brown".

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » October 7, 2003, 12:22 pm

Forthe wrote:
Krimson Klaw wrote:
kyoukan wrote: US officials announced there would be no inquiry as to why a Canadian citizen was unlawfully deported to a hostile country.
Why would there be? This is not Canada. Like Kylere said, we can refuse anyone we want. If Canada was so concerned about their citizen, why did they not come get him or make necessary arrangements? Just because he is a Canadian citizen does not grant him any type of special global status to which he gets special privileges, same for an American.
Fair enough, but why send him to Syria rather than Canada?

The Canadian government is being way too quiet about this, suspiciously so. I'm sure we don't have the full story but from what we do know it seems he was sent there for "being brown".

Jeez, PROVE this being brown shit or STFU. Did you know the Canadian government executes 37 foreigners a day for not being Canadian? Why not believe me, it is just as valid a point.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » October 7, 2003, 12:24 pm

I understand the part about being able to deny entry to anyone you want. But the question still remains: Why Syria and not Canada? And this isn't the first time something like this happens..

Toshira · Post by **Toshira** » October 7, 2003, 12:46 pm

He WAS sent back to Canada, he just got on the wrong flight. Don't you people know how stupid those brown-skinned people are? Geez.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 7, 2003, 1:18 pm

If he was canadian he would have been white as a ghost and wearing a parka. I'd be suspicious too of anyone with a tan claiming to be canadian.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » October 7, 2003, 1:56 pm

Jeez, PROVE this being brown shit or STFU

You seem to have a pine cone stuck in your arsecrack.

The article states he was arrested for being a "suspected member of Al-Qaeda" and doesn't elucidate further. What with racial profiling and the rest there IS a perception that the US might be persecuting people of certain ethnic persuasions or of certain nationalities. The "being brown" comment is a reference to that and, while amusing, I doubt anyone here is taking it 100% seriously except your hysterical self.

I would LOVE to hear the US's reasons for suspecting this guy though. If it's no more than "engineer, dual nationality, arab!" I'd be disgusted.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » October 7, 2003, 2:00 pm

vn_Tanc wrote:
Jeez, PROVE this being brown shit or STFU
You seem to have a pine cone stuck in your arsecrack.

The article states he was arrested for being a "suspected member of Al-Qaeda" and doesn't elucidate further. What with racial profiling and the rest there IS a perception that the US might be persecuting people of certain ethnic persuasions or of certain nationalities. The "being brown" comment is a reference to that and, while amusing, I doubt anyone here is taking it 100% seriously except your hysterical self.

I would LOVE to hear the US's reasons for suspecting this guy though. If it's no more than "engineer, dual nationality, arab!" I'd be disgusted.

No the being brown comment is a baseless slander on the officials or official who determined that he could not be let into the US. No where in that article did anyone imply it was a racial incident. Kyoukan said it was, which is bullshit, and if you buy into it, you are just as much a dumbass.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » October 7, 2003, 2:13 pm

Kylere wtf?

Americans are all just hypocritical, redneck, racist, bible-thumping, self-centered assholes and all they deserve is scorn and criticism to be heaped upon them from the rest of the world.

Don't you understand this yet? I thought this forum has made that all very clear! Are you dense?

Either that or the anti-US crowd comes here to bait people with anti-US news stories - but that couldn't be true... could it?

Kguku · Post by **Kguku** » October 7, 2003, 2:15 pm

My friends on saturday night got deported from Point Roberts. So I blamed my friend Rahim for that because he was brown!

masteen · Post by **masteen** » October 7, 2003, 2:24 pm

We need to start deporting Canadians to fucking Antarctica. At least they'd be comfortable!

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » October 7, 2003, 3:08 pm

Kylere wrote:[Jeez, PROVE this being brown shit or STFU. Did you know the Canadian government executes 37 foreigners a day for not being Canadian? Why not believe me, it is just as valid a point.

Obviously if he had any links to a terrorist organization he would be rotting in gitmo at the moment. It's pretty academic that he was pulled out of the line (with his fucking family beside him no less) because of some racist US racial profiling bullshit, detained by some red neck accidentally given too much power, they didn't find any evidence linking him to anything and booted him off the continent to get rid of another towlie. He wasn't in the united states for anything other than changing planes from one to get on another bound for Canada anyway.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » October 7, 2003, 3:14 pm

Ashur [FoH] wrote:Kylere wtf?

Americans are all just hypocritical, redneck, racist, bible-thumping, self-centered assholes and all they deserve is scorn and criticism to be heaped upon them from the rest of the world.

Don't you understand this yet? I thought this forum has made that all very clear! Are you dense?

Either that or the anti-US crowd comes here to bait people with anti-US news stories - but that couldn't be true... could it?

Yes a Canadian citizen spent a year in a Syrian prison being tortured and abused as a direct result of a bunch of stupid fucking yankee xenophobes, but I started the thread in order to troll americans. I'm not outraged at your country's actions at all.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » October 7, 2003, 3:47 pm

He wasn't in the united states for anything other than changing planes from one to get on another bound for Canada anyway.

If that's the case he never would have left segregated (from the rest of the airport) international arrivals\departures area. Your hypothetical bubba would have never known he was there...

There's a bit more to this than is getting told I think.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » October 7, 2003, 3:55 pm

kyoukan wrote:
Ashur [FoH] wrote:Kylere wtf?

Americans are all just hypocritical, redneck, racist, bible-thumping, self-centered assholes and all they deserve is scorn and criticism to be heaped upon them from the rest of the world.

Don't you understand this yet? I thought this forum has made that all very clear! Are you dense?

Either that or the anti-US crowd comes here to bait people with anti-US news stories - but that couldn't be true... could it?
Yes a Canadian citizen spent a year in a Syrian prison being tortured and abused as a direct result of a bunch of stupid fucking yankee xenophobes, but I started the thread in order to troll americans. I'm not outraged at your country's actions at all.

Perhaps you could look into the fact that the family had to beg Canadian authorities to help and beg them to stay on track, try throwing rocks at your own glass house first.

He is not even saying it was race based, but thanks for making an incident out of nothing. Good dig though, no gold found.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » October 7, 2003, 4:04 pm

Kylere wrote:
kyoukan wrote:
Ashur [FoH] wrote:Kylere wtf?

Americans are all just hypocritical, redneck, racist, bible-thumping, self-centered assholes and all they deserve is scorn and criticism to be heaped upon them from the rest of the world.

Don't you understand this yet? I thought this forum has made that all very clear! Are you dense?

Either that or the anti-US crowd comes here to bait people with anti-US news stories - but that couldn't be true... could it?
Yes a Canadian citizen spent a year in a Syrian prison being tortured and abused as a direct result of a bunch of stupid fucking yankee xenophobes, but I started the thread in order to troll americans. I'm not outraged at your country's actions at all.
Perhaps you could look into the fact that the family had to beg Canadian authorities to help and beg them to stay on track, try throwing rocks at your own glass house first.

He is not even saying it was race based, but thanks for making an incident out of nothing. Good dig though, no gold found.

I'll agree about the Candian government not doing enough to get him home. And rumor is they (RCMP) were partially responsible somehow.

But if you don't recognize how fucked up this event was then you are fucking blind.

Skogen · Post by **Skogen** » October 7, 2003, 4:11 pm

Kylere wrote:Typical one sided full of lies Kyoukan post, ignoring the fact that if the Canadian government had given a fuck it would have been fixed but they kept drifting.

He was not deported for "being brown" he was deported for being a suspected member of AlQaeda, which is a legal choice for the US to make, we can bounce whomever we wish from our borders, deal with it.

Kyoukan then makes 15 years, into almost two decades, nope 19, even pushing it 18 is almost two decades, not 15 years. Just another example of slanting the news. I am glad you posted the link which had facts rather than your slanderous spew of bullshit.

"deported for being a suspected member of AlQaeda"

equates to ..."deported for being a towel head, but under the guise of suspected link to Al Qaeda".

"Suspected links to Al Qaeda" is becoming the all-encompassing, no-more-reasons necessary to round up any middle eastern person they want. They just say that magical sentence, and all need to for further explaination is moot.

That's just fucked up.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » October 7, 2003, 4:15 pm

Lets turn this back to where it belongs....a Canadian problem.

In the House of Commons, Conservative foreign affairs critic Bill Casey asked the solicitor general did "any agency of the government of Canada, RCMP, CSIS or any agency or department give any agency in the United States information about Maher Arar before, during, or after he was detained in New York?"

Solicitor General Wayne Easter responded carefully. He said, "the RCMP was not involved in the decision made by United States authorities to deport Mr. Arar."

But that wasn't the question Casey asked, and outside the House, Easter had trouble answering reporters' questions

The only official explanation the U.S. has ever given for arresting and deporting Arar is that his name was on an anti-terrorist watch list and he was suspected of having ties to al-Qaeda.

Easter says an inquiry is out of the question. "I will not agree to an inquiry," he said.

It is your own government that refuses to do an inquiry on how the guy ends up on a terrorist list. All the U.S. did is send the guy to his native country instead of jailing him. Sounds like Canada is not the utopian society that I hear about so often here.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » October 7, 2003, 4:20 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Lets turn this back to where it belongs....a Canadian problem.

In the House of Commons, Conservative foreign affairs critic Bill Casey asked the solicitor general did "any agency of the government of Canada, RCMP, CSIS or any agency or department give any agency in the United States information about Maher Arar before, during, or after he was detained in New York?"

Solicitor General Wayne Easter responded carefully. He said, "the RCMP was not involved in the decision made by United States authorities to deport Mr. Arar."

But that wasn't the question Casey asked, and outside the House, Easter had trouble answering reporters' questions

The only official explanation the U.S. has ever given for arresting and deporting Arar is that his name was on an anti-terrorist watch list and he was suspected of having ties to al-Qaeda.

Easter says an inquiry is out of the question. "I will not agree to an inquiry," he said.
It is your own government that refuses to do an inquiry on how the guy ends up on a terrorist list. All the U.S. did is send the guy to his native country instead of jailing him. Sounds like Canada is not the utopian society that I hear about so often here.

No doubt.

And judging by his evasive answer CSIS was probably involved.

Not that I would know. CSIS is more spooky than the CIA. I have no doubt most Canadians don't even know what CSIS is.

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » October 7, 2003, 5:31 pm

Forthe wrote: No doubt.

And judging by his evasive answer CSIS was probably involved.

Not that I would know. CSIS is more spooky than the CIA. I have no doubt most Canadians don't even know what CSIS is.

Teh trooth aboot Canada, eh?

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » October 7, 2003, 6:12 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Lets turn this back to where it belongs....a Canadian problem.

In the House of Commons, Conservative foreign affairs critic Bill Casey asked the solicitor general did "any agency of the government of Canada, RCMP, CSIS or any agency or department give any agency in the United States information about Maher Arar before, during, or after he was detained in New York?"

Solicitor General Wayne Easter responded carefully. He said, "the RCMP was not involved in the decision made by United States authorities to deport Mr. Arar."

But that wasn't the question Casey asked, and outside the House, Easter had trouble answering reporters' questions

The only official explanation the U.S. has ever given for arresting and deporting Arar is that his name was on an anti-terrorist watch list and he was suspected of having ties to al-Qaeda.

Easter says an inquiry is out of the question. "I will not agree to an inquiry," he said.
It is your own government that refuses to do an inquiry on how the guy ends up on a terrorist list. All the U.S. did is send the guy to his native country instead of jailing him. Sounds like Canada is not the utopian society that I hear about so often here.

Nice. Seems like someone was too eager to blame everything on the US. I am shocked. (insert LETS ROLL here).

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » October 7, 2003, 6:36 pm

All the other talk aside (too tired to give a shit).. why Syria and not Canada?

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » October 7, 2003, 6:42 pm

He was brown!

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » October 7, 2003, 6:45 pm

That is the entire matter right there. Why deport a guy to a hostile nation and not to Canada where he lives? Although the redneck battallion are doing an almost satisfactory job of deflecting blame to the Canadian government (who as far as we know wasn't informed about the situation until the guy was in Jordan).

Yes all the blame certainly lies with Canada who didn't do enough to get him out of a Syrian prison. Oh wait a second he wouldn't have been in a Syrian prison if the US hadn't have packed him off to a country he didn't live in out of some passive aggresive spite and latent racism towards arabs, who we all know are terrorists who wouldn't be in an airport with their families were they not up to no good.

Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » October 7, 2003, 6:51 pm

Ok, how many of you US bashers notcied the inconvenient fact that the guy was on a suspected terrorist list?

We now return you to your regularly scheduled postulating.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » October 7, 2003, 7:06 pm

I did. However, that doesn't answer the question. He was a Canadian citizen and he lives in Canada. He should have been deported there, nothing else makes sense.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » October 7, 2003, 7:14 pm

Kelshara wrote:I did. However, that doesn't answer the question. He was a Canadian citizen and he lives in Canada. He should have been deported there, nothing else makes sense.

I have no real opinion either way, but he had dual citizenship and was born in Syria. At that point it's a toss up where you should be deported, and IFF you're the US government and you can deport someone on the terrorist watch list to Syria or Canada, which one do you choose?

Take your time..

Okay, I'm going to need an answer...

*bzzzt*

Sorry, thanks for playing.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » October 7, 2003, 7:15 pm

I'd deport him to the place he lives and let the local government handle it.

*bzzzt*

Sorry your intelligence was found lacking.

Fizzlewhip · Post by **Fizzlewhip** » October 7, 2003, 7:54 pm

Just a question:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories

How accurate is CTV by the way?

I found the following kinda weird if he was so innocent.

In November, 2002, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell told Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham that, not only did they suspect Arar as an al Qaeda agent, but the information had come from Canadian intelligence sources.

Subsequently, it became apparent Arar had been under RCMP watch for more than a year.

Again, what is the credibility of the above website/company? And if it is credible, and more to the point accurate in both reporting and the truth of what was said, why are so many of you upset with the US without researching the subject fully? You jump on the bandwagon that the US is full of rednecks and hillbillys with corncob pipes, frayed straw hats, and overalls with no shirts, swilling beer, sickin’ the dawgs out, and sitting on the porch of their house with wheels.

Just isn’t really the case, but hey, is a cute stereotype.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » October 7, 2003, 7:55 pm

If he was a terrorist then the US would have charged him and sent him to their cuban concentration camp. obviously he was innocent of the charges so he was sent on his way. US officials probably deported him back syria as a symbolic "go home sand nigger" gesture.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » October 7, 2003, 7:56 pm

So, you think... despite all the LOUD bitching the US has done in recent times about Canada's immigration policy and handling of refugees w/o documentation... that a US customs official would ever send someone to Canada to be "handled" when they felt they could justify sending them to Syria? Are you trolling, or just fucking thick? Regardless, I will oblige =)

People keep making a big deal about "send him to where he lives", without any knowledge of how long he had been there (he could have been somewhere other than Syria or Canada for much of the 15 years) or any real background information at all. Besides, given he maintained DUAL citizenship in Syria and was born there... it's easy to justify sending him there, even if you think it was completely racially motivated.

Besides, you don't know that this guy doesn't belong on that watch list. He could very well have connections you know nothing about.

Fizzlewhip · Post by **Fizzlewhip** » October 7, 2003, 8:06 pm

Fizzlewhip wrote:Just a question:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories

How accurate is CTV by the way?

..........

Again, what is the credibility of the above website/company? And if it is credible, and more to the point accurate in both reporting and the truth of what was said, why are so many of you upset with the US without researching the subject fully? .........

Again. I ask those questions. I am serious. Is it reliable?

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » October 7, 2003, 8:16 pm

CTV is as accurate and reliable as any network news department reporting a rumor. I'm wondering how many fucking goddam times I have to stress how irrelevant it is though. The guy could have been osama bin laden's second in command; I don't give a fuck who he was. He should have either been charged with being a terrorist or deported to the country he lives in.

Everything else is NOT RELEVANT.

Skogen · Post by **Skogen** » October 7, 2003, 8:19 pm

FUCK THAT TOWELHEAD HE DESERVES TO DIE WE SHOULD NUK THE WOLE MIDDLE EAST AND KILL THOSE FUKIN SNAD NIGGERS LOL LETS ROLL OK BYE.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » October 7, 2003, 8:35 pm

I would love to see a post where Kyoukan argues ONE POINT against any canadian political view, she seems to be such a die-hard canadian patriot and will never argue ANY point they make, or that ive seen

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » October 7, 2003, 8:44 pm

So, you think... despite all the LOUD bitching the US has done in recent times about Canada's immigration policy and handling of refugees w/o documentation... that a US customs official would ever send someone to Canada to be "handled" when they felt they could justify sending them to Syria?

Hate to disappoint you, but the US doesn't run ever country on the planet (even though they like to think they do). I know this will probably ruin your visions of grandeur, but such is the cruel reality. It wasn't up to the US to decide wether or not Canada can let a guy live there, last I checked it wasn't listed as one of the states. Furthermore, if it was a Norwegian citizen I would expect him to be returned to Norway, and I know that the US sure as hell would have bitched up a storm if an American citizen was deported to somewhere because the immigration officers "felt like it". Then again, double standards is an American speciality.

Besides, you don't know that this guy doesn't belong on that watch list. He could very well have connections you know nothing about.

Yeah I bet he had a turban on his head so he must be a terrorist!

I wish you could get a hunting lisence for people like you. Your stupidity polutes the gene pool.

I would love to see a post where Kyoukan argues ONE POINT against any canadian political view, she seems to be such a die-hard canadian patriot and will never argue ANY point they make, or that ive seen

How is that any different than the hordes who would gladly take Bush' dick up their ass if he asked them to?

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » October 7, 2003, 9:43 pm

Kelshara wrote:
So, you think... despite all the LOUD bitching the US has done in recent times about Canada's immigration policy and handling of refugees w/o documentation... that a US customs official would ever send someone to Canada to be "handled" when they felt they could justify sending them to Syria?
Hate to disappoint you, but the US doesn't run ever country on the planet (even though they like to think they do). I know this will probably ruin your visions of grandeur, but such is the cruel reality. It wasn't up to the US to decide wether or not Canada can let a guy live there, last I checked it wasn't listed as one of the states. Furthermore, if it was a Norwegian citizen I would expect him to be returned to Norway, and I know that the US sure as hell would have bitched up a storm if an American citizen was deported to somewhere because the immigration officers "felt like it". Then again, double standards is an American speciality.

Hate to disappoint you, but you're completely mistaken on several points:

1) I'm not an American and I don't agree with Bush foreign policy, as you seem to imply.
2) This isn't about America "running the world", who and where they deport people to that arrive at their borders is an entirely domestic affair and they were completely within their rights to do what they did.
3) You continue to dismiss the fact that the man in question was a Syrian citizen, first and at the time he was deported.

Besides, you don't know that this guy doesn't belong on that watch list. He could very well have connections you know nothing about.
Yeah I bet he had a turban on his head so he must be a terrorist!

I wish you could get a hunting lisence for people like you. Your stupidity polutes the gene pool.

Since he doesn't appear to be wearing a turban in the photo on the web site, one can assume he's not a funamentalist, so with the atmosphere at present the likelihood of him travelling to the US wearing a turban are pretty close to zero.

The story quoted says "U.S. authorities suspected him of being a member of al-Qaeda", one can only presume that given the amount of arab foreign nationals that pass through US airports he must have (rightly or wrongly) been on some kind of watch list. What particular information do you have that supports your assertion that for some reason they picked this one guy to deport for "being brown"

I would love to see a post where Kyoukan argues ONE POINT against any canadian political view, she seems to be such a die-hard canadian patriot and will never argue ANY point they make, or that ive seen
How is that any different than the hordes who would gladly take Bush' dick up their ass if he asked them to?

This is not me you're quoting, so you really should add a name...

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » October 7, 2003, 10:06 pm

Ok...so I am to believe that the Canadian government had absolutely no input as to where the US was going to send him? You really expect me to believe that they told the US to return him to Canada? And they were so upset about those racist US officials that they let Syria have him for a full year before they did anything about it?

If the US was going to be involved in this decision, then you can rest assured he would have spent some quality time with the CIA and FBI before he was sent to Guatanamo Bay....not Syria. Point your fingers wherever you want, but you know as well as everyone that is not rabidly anti-US that this issue is 95% Canadian fault and 5% US.

Fizzlewhip · Post by **Fizzlewhip** » October 8, 2003, 4:44 am

Mr. Graham said Mr. Arar's case is one of many in which Canadians who hold a second passport don't have their Canadian passports recognized. He added that U.S. officials told him they felt they had every right to send Mr. Arar to Syria because he has citizenship there.

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/Art ... eakingnews

Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham protested the deportation to U.S. Ambassador Paul Cellucci. Graham said U.S. officials told him they believed they could send Arar to Syria because of his Syrian citizenship.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/200 ... visory.htm

Arar has lived almost half his life in Canada, having immigrated in 1988 at age 17. He holds dual Canadian and Syrian citizenship, but had not visited his birth country since emigrating.

http://www.canada.com/news/story.asp?id ... 56F0E40660

Mr. Arar is a dual citizen. If he chose not to give up his citizenship to syria, then the us could, within rights, send him there.

Morally was this right? No. It is nearly reprehensible, irresponsible, and quite xenophobic of the INS. Do I agree with the decision? No. One way to fix that is not to carry your second passport.

By the way. I happen to date a "sand nigger" and I find that term offensive. Please refrain from using it.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » October 8, 2003, 5:19 am

Fizzlewhip wrote:By the way. I happen to date a "sand nigger" and I find that term offensive. Please refrain from using it.

what are you, some kind of terrorist?

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » October 8, 2003, 6:30 am

Since he doesn't appear to be wearing a turban in the photo on the web site, one can assume he's not a funamentalist

Cos Turban = fundamentalist??? Pity the Sikhs who live near you. . .

I still don't see any source telling us what caused him to be under suspicion. And I still don't see any good reason being offered for him being sent to Syria.
You rag on Kyoucan for being a "canadian patriot" while also thrashing non-stop to ensure you don't have to entertain the idea that an american official mgith have fucked up. It's astonishing.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » October 8, 2003, 8:49 am

I don't know why I bother with the US hating fnord sometimes. You won't ever see anything as to who fucked this guy over as I quote the Canadian fag in charge of the mess has stated

Easter says an inquiry is out of the question. "I will not agree to an inquiry," he said

For fuck's sake, if you simply must find something to rail on the US about, I can give you 50 other topics that actually are worthy and can't be pinned back to Canada's fucking government. Send me PM and I will give you 10 topics and you can pick one to blast the US governemnt.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » October 8, 2003, 8:52 am

Since he doesn't appear to be wearing a turban in the photo on the web site, one can assume he's not a funamentalist,

That says it all right there..

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » October 8, 2003, 9:11 am

Everyone shut up. It's Americas fault. Next topic.

Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » October 8, 2003, 11:20 am

Obiously if we suspect someone of terrorist activities, the best idea is to send him to a friendly country and let them deal with the problem.

What a wonderful idea.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » October 8, 2003, 11:32 am

Fallanthas wrote:Obiously if we suspect someone of terrorist activities, the best idea is to send him to a friendly country and let them deal with the problem.

What a wonderful idea.

Yes suggesting someone is *suspect* of being a terrorist justifies anything and everything. Hell it justifies attacks against sovereign nations and full-blown invasions. No proof required.

Besides I hear this guy is also suspect of being a commie and a witch. Should have burned him at the stake after having the Syrians torture him to reveal his communist-witch heretic cohorts.

Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » October 8, 2003, 11:40 am

Hey dumbass.

Read the information. Canada is responsible for him being on the goddamn list.

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