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That we're gonna get caught in the middle of this when the shit hits the fan? Link

Isn't launching attacks on soveriegn soil by another government an act of war?
Syria asks U.N. to condemn Israel

UNITED NATIONS (CNN) --Syria has called for the U.N. Security Council to condemn Sunday's Israeli airstrike against what Israel called a terrorist training camp inside Syrian territory, but Israel says it acted in self-defense after a suicide bombing that killed 19 people.

Syria, an elected member of the Security Council, requested a special meeting and asked the council to strongly condemn the attack.

Syrian U.N. Ambassador Fayssal Mekdad called the raid an act of "unwarranted aggression" that violated the U.N. charter and the 1974 disengagement agreement that followed the 1973 Mideast war.

He said Syria has exercised "maximum self-restraint," but he accused Israel of trying "to export its current domestic crisis to the entire region."

"Syria is not incapable of establishing a resistance and deterrent balance that would force Israel to reconsider its calculations," Mekdad added.

Syria is tabling a draft resolution, backed by other Arab countries, that asks Israel not to make any further attacks.

Sunday's session initially was to be a closed-door meeting, but was later opened.

But Israeli U.N. Ambassador Dan Gillerman called the airstrike a "measured defensive operation" aimed at a training camp used by Islamic Jihad, a Palestinian militant group the U.S. State Department has designated a terrorist organization.

Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for Saturday's suicide bombing in Haifa, which killed 19 people.

Gillerman said Israel acted in accordance with Article 51 of the U.N. Charter, which allows nations a right of self-defense. And Syria has "put itself in the dock" by calling for Sunday's meeting, he said.

"There are few better exhibits of state sponsorship for terrorism than the one provided by the Syrian regime," he said.

The United States "believes Syria is on the wrong side of the war on terrorism," the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations said.

Ambassador John Negroponte said Washington has clearly urged Damascus to end its support for Palestinian militant groups, but "specific directions for terrorist attacks continue to be issued from terrorist groups based in Syria."

The strike on Syria is the first Israeli attack there since the Yom Kippur war in 1973. Monday is the 30-year anniversary of the Yom Kippur War, when Egypt and Syria attacked Israel on Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the Jewish calendar.

Imad Moustapha, Syrian charge d'affaires in Washington, accused Israel of "becoming more and more militaristic in its tendencies."

Arab League spokesman Hisham Yousof said Syria had asked the Arab League to meet Sunday night to discuss the situation.

The Ein Saheb camp, deep inside Syria, had been used by "many terror organizations," including Islamic Jihad, for training, the Israel Defense Forces said. But a spokesman from Islamic Jihad in Beirut said the group carried out no military activities in Syria.

Israeli government spokesman Ra'anan Gissin told CNN the camp was 16 kilometers (10 miles) from the Syrian capital Damascus.

"We will take whatever measure is necessary to defend our citizens, regardless of geographical location of these training camps," Gissin said.

Israel, he said, had decided "to enlarge the scope of our operation against the Islamic Jihad and Hamas."

The attack, Gissin said, sent a message to Syria and Iran to end their support for terrorism against Israel.

"We will not tolerate the continuation of this axis of terror between Tehran, Damascus and Gaza to continue to operate and kill innocent men, women and children," he said.

Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat told CNN he had called the White House to ask the Bush administration to help de-escalate the latest violence.

The Palestinian Authority has said it does not have the security resources to restrain militant groups such as Hamas or Islamic Jihad. And, even if it did, doing so would cause civil war among Palestinians.

U.S. President George W. Bush telephoned Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon Sunday to offer U.S. condolences on the Haifa suicide bombing and to discuss Israel's retaliatory strike on Syria, a Bush administration official said.

The official said the two men "agreed on the need to avoid heightening tensions in the region at this time."

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak earlier called on the U.S. to restrain Israel and expressed concern the attack could presage a new cycle of violence.

"We condemn what happened today concerning the aggression against a brotherly state under the pretext that some organizations exist there," Reuters quoted Mubarak as saying in a joint news conference with German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.

Schroeder said regional peace efforts "become more complicated when ... the sovereignty of a country is violated. This is why the action in Syria is not acceptable."

And in Moscow, the Russian Foreign Ministry said the terrorist attack on a Haifa restaurant and Israel's retaliatory strike on Syria have created "growing concern and worry."

On its Web site, the ministry said: "It is obvious that such actions will lead to widening of the geographic boundaries of the confrontation."

The United Kingdom said it had urged all sides to exercise restraint. A Foreign Office statement said: "Israel is of course entitled to take steps to protect itself from terrorist attack, but these steps should be within international law.

"Every act makes it more difficult to get back to the peace process."

Mamoun Fandy, an expert on the region at the U.S. Institute for Peace, in Washington, said the situation has left leaders in a tough spot.

"What the Israelis did today is a major move on the strategic chessboard throughout the Middle East, as well as globally," he told CNN. "This move requires a very deliberate reaction, given the high stakes involved."

Fandy said Syrian President Bashar Assad was faced with a particularly tough choice. He "has to respond and put the Middle East on a countdown to hell, or he does not respond, and undermines his own legitimacy internally."

He added: "Everybody's shaking in their boots now. They don't know how to respond to this major bluff."

-- CNN Correspondents Fionnuala Sweeney, Brent Sadler and Rula Amin contributed to this report.
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Personally I think Israel SHOULD get punished somehow for this. At least the US/UK gave an ultimatum, and "attempted" to get everything approved through the UN. Israel just keeps going after whomever they want in the area. Ever wonder why they middle-eastern people who are against the US are always saying we are referring to Israel? Yes, we aided them, but it's time for them to stop the shit they are doing. What to do about the bombers? Let No Fucking Body through the gates....but wait, they tried that and had no labor force and protests on that. Which would be better for the nation of Israel.

Might be time for them to practice the old art of Isolationism, and get things taken care of IN their own borders (Not West Bank or Gaza areas) while things get ironed out without them outside their borders. The only thing that ties us to this is the bit where Bush happened to say that the "war on terror" would be taken to any country that harbored the terrorists. Israel may just come back saying we did what he said he would do...well, we at least give a warning before just invading a nation...and NO I am not saying that giving warning makes it "all better." I think what Israel did was bs

*edit* I was first responding to some other sources on this and went back to read this actual article. Glad to see that the other world leaders stepped up and said what happened was not justified, and that further actions of this sort "better" not happen again (for lack of a better word).
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Unlike some other parties that could be mentioned, the Isrealis don't do anything without fairly good reason. I'm inclined to believe there was something across the border in Syria. The new king isn't what the old one was...
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Right, and Sharon is a fucking saint.

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Aabidano wrote:Unlike some other parties that could be mentioned, the Isrealis don't do anything without fairly good reason. I'm inclined to believe there was something across the border in Syria. The new king isn't what the old one was...
The old one?! Hafiz Assad was a pretty harsh dude to his people. Go and read a little on what he in in the town of Hama. ..
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All I can say is it's about damn time. Can you imagine Mexico funding and training terrorists to cross our borders and blow up innocent civilians for years and us not directly responding? And fuck the worthless PA- it's their fault the roadmap never had a fucking chance. Using the word authority after Palestinian should come out as an error in the spell checker.
He said Syria has exercised "maximum self-restraint,"
HAHAHA. Translation: we don't want get our asses handed to us so we're just going to whine to the UN like little bitches.

Why do they even bother going to the security council? We're just going to veto anything that condemns Israel for following the same rules of engagement in the war on terror as we are.
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Brotha wrote:HAHAHA. Translation: we don't want get our asses handed to us so we're just going to whine to the UN like little bitches.
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Zamtuk wrote:
Brotha wrote:HAHAHA. Translation: we don't want get our asses handed to us so we're just going to whine to the UN like little bitches.
hello ignorance
well put.
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All I can say is it's about damn time. Can you imagine Mexico funding and training terrorists to cross our borders and blow up innocent civilians for years and us not directly responding? And fuck the worthless PA- it's their fault the roadmap never had a fucking chance. Using the word authority after Palestinian should come out as an error in the spell checker.

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He said Syria has exercised "maximum self-restraint,"


HAHAHA. Translation: we don't want get our asses handed to us so we're just going to whine to the UN like little bitches.

Why do they even bother going to the security council? We're just going to veto anything that condemns Israel for following the same rules of engagement in the war on terror as we are.

Whine to the UN like little bitches? Looks like they took lessons from dubya. Or wait, dubya was begging, not whining.

Shouldn't you be studying for your GED or something? Actually nevermind, I forgot that in Hicktown, USA all you need to certify your expertise in world politics is a ford truck and a few cattle.

if dem there spicks had terrorrrst trainin' camps, we's texans'd showed them. We got shotguns and God on our side. DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS. YEEEEE HAWWW.
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And fuck the worthless PA- it's their fault the roadmap never had a fucking chance
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Syria wouldn't have a chance if they tangled with Isreal and they know it. That's not even worth having the discussion.

If Arafat wasn't in the picture, this mess would have been resolved by this point. Or on the way to it at any rate. He's a terrorist and supports terror groups, plain and simple. I'm not real sure how you folks can argue that point. Expecting Arafat to change would is a lot like expecting Bush Jr to support gay marriage. He's (Arafat) supported from other counties in the region, most of whom don't so much support him as not discourage thier extreme elements from supporting him.
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Wow brotha, that's the most offensive pic I have seen in a while, congrats. I was also shocked to read about this incident this morning. My first thought was also if this was an open act of war.
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Really stupid thing to do. However I suspect the US was behind this and had Israel do their dirty work for them. DAMN Americans.

Seriously though, the US set a dangerous benchmark for this type of activity with their "war on terror". They have literally given carte blanche to any nation to invade the soveriegn territory of another under the pretext of killing off terrorists.

Could be some tremendous backlash for this one. :(
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the Arab world will be looking very carefully at the US as to how we react to this.

the only thing i think will come of it, is it will inspire more people to commit terrorist acts against Western interests.

big thanks to Israel for that...
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Aabidano wrote:If Arafat wasn't in the picture, this mess would have been resolved by this point. Or on the way to it at any rate. He's a terrorist and supports terror groups, plain and simple. I'm not real sure how you folks can argue that point. Expecting Arafat to change would is a lot like expecting Bush Jr to support gay marriage. He's (Arafat) supported from other counties in the region, most of whom don't so much support him as not discourage thier extreme elements from supporting him.
What, pray tell, do you call Israel then, a country that openly uses assassination as a tool for dissident removal? Certainly not terrorists, because they're a U.S recognized state!
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Krimson Klaw wrote:Wow brotha, that's the most offensive pic I have seen in a while, congrats. I was also shocked to read about this incident this morning. My first thought was also if this was an open act of war.
I think it is definitely an act of war.

EDIT: btw, go to that site where brotha got that pic,

http://www.coxandforkum.com/

and this one is a doozy!:
http://www.think-israel.org/
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I got this far on that second link...


"WHY THE PEACE PROCESS CAN'T WORK AND SHOULD BE ABANDONNED
by Robert Locke "


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Toshira wrote:I got this far on that second link...


"WHY THE PEACE PROCESS CAN'T WORK AND SHOULD BE ABANDONNED
by Robert Locke "


:lol:
I got a good way through a few stories linked there, but just got too pissed off & annoyed, so I had to stop.
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Aabidano wrote:If Arafat wasn't in the picture, this mess would have been resolved by this point. Or on the way to it at any rate. He's a terrorist and supports terror groups, plain and simple. I'm not real sure how you folks can argue that point. Expecting Arafat to change would is a lot like expecting Bush Jr to support gay marriage. He's (Arafat) supported from other counties in the region, most of whom don't so much support him as not discourage thier extreme elements from supporting him.
It wasn't Arafat or the palestine militants that broke the ceasefire after more than a month of no hostilities. It was Israel.

Israel (not all Israelis) has no desire for peace. It has a desire for land. Its fucking crazy watching them build new settlements and the "security fence" on palestine land when they have already taken so much.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/flash/0,5860,720353,00.html
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What, pray tell, do you call Israel then, a country that openly uses assassination as a tool for dissident removal? Certainly not terrorists, because they're a U.S recognized state!
A small country surrounded by people who've hated them for 2500 years?

The tactic is somewhat the same, the intent is different. By definition it's not terrorism. It's not polite behaviour, but given the track record of the surrounding governments non-existant attempts to control thier own people, it's understandable IMO.
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Both sides are equally fucked. The only solution is that they all just kill themselves. This old testiment "eye for an eye" mentality is what is fundamentaly driving this circle of violence.
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Aabidano wrote:A small country surrounded by people who've hated them for 2500 years?
Apologist nonsense. IDF is responsible for taking more civilian lives than Hamas and Islamic Jihad combined since the intifada began. Arafat isn't a terrorist, and there is no solid evidence put forth that he has absolutely anything to do with terrorism any longer. Failure to control extremist groups within the Palestinian community does not equal terrorism. That is like calling the president of the united states a criminal because he has failed to end all crime. Christ Almighty the man won the nobel peace prize for his work with Netanyahu before he was assassinated. By a Jew. For negotiating a peace treaty.
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Arafat is definitely a piece of shit. Israel is as much to blame as the muslim nations in the whole shit storm there. The U.N. is the entity that created Israel. They are the ones who need to step in and put a stop to the shit there, whether it is by smacking down Israel, Palestine, or both. The U.S. needs to wash their hands of anything in the process between and Israel and Palestine. We cannot win no matter what we do so we need to abstain and let the U.N. resolve it or not resolve it.
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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Arafat is definitely a piece of shit. Israel is as much to blame as the muslim nations in the whole shit storm there. The U.N. is the entity that created Israel. They are the ones who need to step in and put a stop to the shit there, whether it is by smacking down Israel, Palestine, or both. The U.S. needs to wash their hands of anything in the process between and Israel and Palestine. We cannot win no matter what we do so we need to abstain and let the U.N. resolve it or not resolve it.
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kyoukan wrote:
Aabidano wrote:A small country surrounded by people who've hated them for 2500 years?
Apologist nonsense. IDF is responsible for taking more civilian lives than Hamas and Islamic Jihad combined since the intifada began. Arafat isn't a terrorist, and there is no solid evidence put forth that he has absolutely anything to do with terrorism any longer. Failure to control extremist groups within the Palestinian community does not equal terrorism. That is like calling the president of the united states a criminal because he has failed to end all crime. Christ Almighty the man won the nobel peace prize for his work with Netanyahu before he was assassinated. By a Jew. For negotiating a peace treaty.
I found it comical when the IDF had Arafat holed up in his compound totally surrounded, all lines of communications cut, his police forces & station in shambles was being accused of not taking control of the PA, getting Hamas & Islamic Jihad under ccontrol, and putting a stop to the violence.
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kyoukan wrote:IDF is responsible for taking more civilian lives than Hamas and Islamic Jihad combined since the intifada began.
From what I've read the civlian loss of life in Afghanistan from our air campaign was around 3000-3400- which is more than died on 9/11. Does that mean we were the aggressors and the Taliban had the high moral ground? Of course not.

Arafat at the very least has turned a blind eye to terrorism and was an obstacle to both Abbas and the roadmap. Can anyone here possibly argue that if the PA took action and all terrorism stopped, Palestine wouldn't have their own state in the near future and more Palestinian civlians would die to Israeli "aggression?" Of course not, because you know Israel would uphold their side of the bargain and has no wish to inflict casualties (civilian or otherwise) on Palestinians unless they have to. Arafat has failed his people time and again- even if he doesn't support terrorism he still has to go.

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Brotha wrote:
kyoukan wrote:IDF is responsible for taking more civilian lives than Hamas and Islamic Jihad combined since the intifada began.
From what I've read the civlian loss of life in Afghanistan from our air campaign was around 3000-3400- which is more than died on 9/11. Does that mean we were the aggressors and the Taliban had the high moral ground? Of course not.

Arafat at the very least has turned a blind eye to terrorism and was an obstacle to both Abbas and the roadmap. Can anyone here possibly argue that if the PA took action and all terrorism stopped, Palestine wouldn't have their own state in the near future and more Palestinian civlians would die to Israeli "aggression?" Of course not, because you know Israel would uphold their side of the bargain and has no wish to inflict casualties (civilian or otherwise) on Palestinians unless they have to. Arafat has failed their people time and again- even if he doesn't support terrorism he still has to go.

edit: typed too fast
Do you really think that all of the extremist groups are 100% loyal to the PA's authori-ti? Arafat is NOT the end-all, be -all of the Palastinians voice.
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Skogen wrote:Do you really think that all of the extremist groups are 100% loyal to the PA's authori-ti?
Not at all, that's one of the reasons why I think calling them the Palestinian "Authority" is a joke. Not sure where you think I implied that...
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The U.N. is the entity that created Israel.
Not exactly. The UN proposed the creation of Israel and a neutral/UN controlled Jerusalem. Both the Palestinians objected (wtf why should we give up our land?) as well as the Israelis (wtf God said we could have all of it especially Jerusalem!). Then there was a small war when jewish settlers led by men who still run the country today basically took control of the arab land anyway. Funnily enough when the borders settled, they looked damn near exactly how the UN had drawn them.

The world by and large decried this situation and refused to recognise Israel. The first country that did was. . .the USA. Eventually the UN and most other non-arab countries recognised Israel, and ever since have been trying to resolve the problems created there.
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Can anyone here possibly argue that if the PA took action and all terrorism stopped, Palestine wouldn't have their own state in the near future and more Palestinian civlians would die to Israeli "aggression?" Of course not, because you know Israel would uphold their side of the bargain and has no wish to inflict casualties (civilian or otherwise) on Palestinians unless they have to.
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Can anyone here possibly argue that if the PA took action and all terrorism stopped, Palestine wouldn't have their own state in the near future and more Palestinian civlians would die to Israeli "aggression?" Of course not, because you know Israel would uphold their side of the bargain and has no wish to inflict casualties (civilian or otherwise) on Palestinians unless they have to
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Aabidano wrote:Syria wouldn't have a chance if they tangled with Isreal and they know it. That's not even worth having the discussion.

If Arafat wasn't in the picture, this mess would have been resolved by this point. Or on the way to it at any rate. He's a terrorist and supports terror groups, plain and simple. I'm not real sure how you folks can argue that point. Expecting Arafat to change would is a lot like expecting Bush Jr to support gay marriage. He's (Arafat) supported from other counties in the region, most of whom don't so much support him as not discourage thier extreme elements from supporting him.
its pretty dumbass to think that sharon and maybe even most israelies in power have the same exact mentallity as arafat, Israel aint the good guys, noone is

A resolution MAY come when both Sharon and Arafat are the fuck out of there, and not one day before
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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Arafat is definitely a piece of shit. Israel is as much to blame as the muslim nations in the whole shit storm there. The U.N. is the entity that created Israel. They are the ones who need to step in and put a stop to the shit there, whether it is by smacking down Israel, Palestine, or both. The U.S. needs to wash their hands of anything in the process between and Israel and Palestine. We cannot win no matter what we do so we need to abstain and let the U.N. resolve it or not resolve it.

the only reason americans support israel is becouse of all the rich jews or the jews in politics, if we replaced all the jews in the US with palistinians, we would be in the exact opposite position
i know this will be interprited in the wrong way but im almost glad gore is not in office becouse imagine how much worse the situation would be having a jewish vice presedent

not that i have anything against jews, i even have some jewish family...but thats just a fact
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Kelshara wrote:Are you truly this stupid or do you play stupid to get attention?
What is wrong with that statement? Do you think if all the terrorist organizations had been dismantled and all terrorist activity ceased, you would one day read in the paper "6 Palestinian civilians killed by Israel in their latest missle strike?" Or that Israel would say to the United States "we decided against letting the Palestinians have their own state, sorry." That's absurd. I realize Palestinians have more reason to attack Israelis than Israelis Palestinians because Israel would be fine with the status quo, so I do see the practical side of it, not just the good/bad black/white moral side, but obviously suicide bombings aren't having the desired effect on Israel and there can be no possible justification for them.

Peace will never even have a chance unless the PA acts against terrorist groups (unless Israel accidently nukes themselves). It's nice to say "wow look a truce" and just take it day by day, thinking that peace will finally have a chance, but that is ignorant. These terrorist groups do not want peace, they want Israel wiped off the map and a fundamentalist Islamic state in its place.

And no, this isn't going to escalate to a war.
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Kelshara wrote:
Can anyone here possibly argue that if the PA took action and all terrorism stopped, Palestine wouldn't have their own state in the near future and more Palestinian civlians would die to Israeli "aggression?" Of course not, because you know Israel would uphold their side of the bargain and has no wish to inflict casualties (civilian or otherwise) on Palestinians unless they have to
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But! But! Israel are the good guys! They would do anything to promote peace!

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You know the worst atrocity that's happening right now? It's not the suicide bombings. It's not the missle strikes. It's not the assassinations. It's not the killing of innocent bystanders. It's the continued allowance and encourgment (until just recently) that Sharon has given the Israeli people to move into and occupy what are, at the very least, hotly contested lands. These settlements will make it more and more difficult for a Palestinian State to ever be formed - the only way I think, in which a lasting peace will ever be formed.
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Kelshara wrote:Are you truly this stupid or do you play stupid to get attention?
I think he's trolling because not even texans are that fucking dumb.
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Sharon would have to be suicidal to let people settle in the stolen land. Look what happened to Netanyahu when he tried to stop it.
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kyoukan wrote:Sharon would have to be suicidal to let people settle in the stolen land. Look what happened to Netanyahu when he tried to stop it.
Meh? These statements appear to contradict, or are unclear. Are you saying Sharon would be offed by Paelstinians? The fact of the matter is, Sharon DID allow people to settle, and only reversed his position after the Bush Administration (in an uncharacteristically intelligent move) condemned the activity. I will dig up references a bit later tonight.
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no he would be gunned down by the same jewish radicals that killed netanyahu.
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kyoukan wrote:no he would be gunned down by the same jewish radicals that killed netanyahu.
netanyahu? Benjamin Netanyahu? I thought that guy was stil alive. When did they wax him? How did this get by me!? Can't be the same guy. He was opposed to the land-for peace agreement, and restraint of military solutions The only other Netanyahu I know of is Elisha, who died of a heart attack, cancer or something years back.
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netanyahu isn't dead

Birth:
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Benjamin Netanyahu studied for a few years in the United States before returning to his native Israel in 1967 for military service. His career in the United States and Israel went from business to politics, and Netanyahu worked in the U.S. at the Israeli embassy and later as a representative at the United Nations. He was elected to the Knesset in 1988. During the Gulf War he strengthened his political position and emerged as a candidate for Prime Minister from the Likud party, overcoming an adultery scandal and winning the 1996 election. He was defeated in the election of 1999 by Ehud Barak.

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Fizzlewhip wrote:netanyahu isn't dead

Birth:
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Benjamin Netanyahu studied for a few years in the United States before returning to his native Israel in 1967 for military service. His career in the United States and Israel went from business to politics, and Netanyahu worked in the U.S. at the Israeli embassy and later as a representative at the United Nations. He was elected to the Knesset in 1988. During the Gulf War he strengthened his political position and emerged as a candidate for Prime Minister from the Likud party, overcoming an adultery scandal and winning the 1996 election. He was defeated in the election of 1999 by Ehud Barak.

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Maybe he's not dead...got shot and recovered or something. I'll check it out later (too busy...fucking work!)
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It was Yitzhak Rabin who was assassinated, not Netanyahu.

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christ Im getting my prime ministers confused =p
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Fact: If Syria took Military Action against Israel in a stand alone attack, the effect would be like Mexico attacking the US.

Fact: Arafat IS a Terrorist, you do not wake up one morning and decide, "hey, no more random killing, I am gonna be a statesman now" and expect anyone but fools to believe you. Hello, McFly! He was the head of the freaking Palestine Liberation Organization, you know the PLO, as in "terrorist group, the PLO, took credit for...", learn some bloody history.
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one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
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kyoukan wrote:one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
wtf you talking about
are you saying you dont believe in Dubyas axis of E V I L
the government tells you there E V I L, are you saying you dont believe the government?
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Looks like they just did a pre-emptive strike to me. :roll: I'm sure Israel has overwhelming evidence that Syria has WMD that they intend to unleash upon them at any given time, and that they just need to defend themselves. Look at the bright side. Perhaps Isreali bombs will start the wave of Deomcracy that the American bombs failed to achieve in the Middle East.

Face it, our attack on Iraq set a really bad precedence.
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