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Har, nothing like a little unprovoked name calling to keep VV in the pink! 
Really, no offense intended(considering I don't know most of yall), just a little fun.
Sneekz, was just drawing ya out
Welcome to VV, jackass.
Seriously, I am quite surprised there are still zone disputes...there are so many zones now!!!
PS: For the record, I am changing my name to Harmtoucher.

Really, no offense intended(considering I don't know most of yall), just a little fun.

Sneekz, was just drawing ya out

Seriously, I am quite surprised there are still zone disputes...there are so many zones now!!!

PS: For the record, I am changing my name to Harmtoucher.

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Jice wrote:
There have been exactly three guilds in the history of the server to get to elementals without entering in an aliance with another guild, so I wouldn't be so quick to criticise especially if you are not in Fiends, PD, or FOH.
Where is Valhall? Never remember us getting into elementals in alliance with anyone
There have been exactly three guilds in the history of the server to get to elementals without entering in an aliance with another guild, so I wouldn't be so quick to criticise especially if you are not in Fiends, PD, or FOH.
Where is Valhall? Never remember us getting into elementals in alliance with anyone

isnt a sizeable chunk of Fiends core the remnants of Valhall?Bendrax wrote:Jice wrote:
There have been exactly three guilds in the history of the server to get to elementals without entering in an aliance with another guild, so I wouldn't be so quick to criticise especially if you are not in Fiends, PD, or FOH.
Where is Valhall? Never remember us getting into elementals in alliance with anyone
but yeah, you should say that FoH, Valhall, then PD did it without an alliance, if that is what you want to do.
but more to the point, who fucking cares.
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Deijah don't talk to him he will only continue to post.Deijah Vu wrote:Did you put all these words together by yourself or was it a guild effort?Estrosiath wrote:I'm sure PE will cry a fucking river once there is a patch day and SI starts using their l33t time zone advantage to pharm VT once again without even leaving crumbs up.
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This from the resident expert on 'continuing to post.'Atokal wrote:Deijah don't talk to him he will only continue to post.Deijah Vu wrote:Did you put all these words together by yourself or was it a guild effort?Estrosiath wrote:I'm sure PE will cry a fucking river once there is a patch day and SI starts using their l33t time zone advantage to pharm VT once again without even leaving crumbs up.

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Are you gonna post after all my posts?Aranuil wrote:This from the resident expert on 'continuing to post.'Atokal wrote:Deijah don't talk to him he will only continue to post.Deijah Vu wrote:Did you put all these words together by yourself or was it a guild effort?Estrosiath wrote:I'm sure PE will cry a fucking river once there is a patch day and SI starts using their l33t time zone advantage to pharm VT once again without even leaving crumbs up.
I must have really hurt your feelings, I did apologize and you didnt even respond.

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Dude, that was totally funny, hence the.Atokal wrote:Are you gonna post after all my posts?Aranuil wrote:This from the resident expert on 'continuing to post.'Atokal wrote:Deijah don't talk to him he will only continue to post.Deijah Vu wrote:Did you put all these words together by yourself or was it a guild effort?Estrosiath wrote:I'm sure PE will cry a fucking river once there is a patch day and SI starts using their l33t time zone advantage to pharm VT once again without even leaving crumbs up.
I must have really hurt your feelings, I did apologize and you didnt even respond.

I saw your apology. You apologized for calling me a rapist, not for dragging my name through the mud as some type of sexual predator for over 6 months. Your apology is noted, but not what I'm looking for. Sorry if it seems semantical, but it's an important difference to me.
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Toker don't talk to him cause hi will only continue to post! <hugs Toker>Atokal wrote:Are you gonna post after all my posts?Aranuil wrote:This from the resident expert on 'continuing to post.'Atokal wrote:Deijah don't talk to him he will only continue to post.Deijah Vu wrote:Did you put all these words together by yourself or was it a guild effort?Estrosiath wrote:I'm sure PE will cry a fucking river once there is a patch day and SI starts using their l33t time zone advantage to pharm VT once again without even leaving crumbs up.
I must have really hurt your feelings, I did apologize and you didnt even respond.

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Rofl, this coming from the one who told quite a few people *I won't be posting here anymore*Aranuil wrote:This from the resident expert on 'continuing to post.'Atokal wrote:Deijah don't talk to him he will only continue to post.Deijah Vu wrote:Did you put all these words together by yourself or was it a guild effort?Estrosiath wrote:I'm sure PE will cry a fucking river once there is a patch day and SI starts using their l33t time zone advantage to pharm VT once again without even leaving crumbs up.

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Never said it publically! And I was flatly told 'No' by several parties.Laliana wrote:Rofl, this coming from the one who told quite a few people *I won't be posting here anymore*Aranuil wrote:This from the resident expert on 'continuing to post.'Atokal wrote:Deijah don't talk to him he will only continue to post.Deijah Vu wrote:Did you put all these words together by yourself or was it a guild effort?Estrosiath wrote:I'm sure PE will cry a fucking river once there is a patch day and SI starts using their l33t time zone advantage to pharm VT once again without even leaving crumbs up.![]()
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I only told 4 people.

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Re: The Skinny...
Every guild knows they can kill any mob if they have the members. Obviously it all depends on having the right people on at the right time.Trias wrote: time and time again, we are loosing out to other guilds that have a force on for spawns early in the afternoon...i KNOW PD can kill fennin for instance, however when you have 35 people online and fennin is up; and guilds x, y and z have 50 to 80 people on each...it kind of leaves you on the back burner of being competitive
Not to mention that cuts into your seventh month (or more) of VT farming. No wonder your "attrition" is high. Sure the loot is nice. But dont underestimate the level of hate people have for that zone.
Absorbing (basically) another large guild is much different than mass recruitment how?instead of burning my core out by a wave of mass recruitement, we have been seeking out a relationship and are successful thus far with Farstorm
Nice p i e in the sky words. Any particular example of you doing more with less? I have no problem with people doing 'more with less' (or more) but when you say it you sound like a politician.all that matters is i KNOW my guild and resurrector's guild have ability...both guilds have done more with less...
Ok, we don't have to call it "zerg". What would you call 160+ active members? At least going by the latest rosters. I mean we have to call it "something." Maybe we could have a new thread where people can submit creative names. Wave of Lag or Death by Numbers... Things like that. Sounds fun!"Zerg" as you may call it now, less recruitement later
Or it will level out because people get tired of being in a huge unwiedly organization where they have a chance for loot like once every two months. If the two guilds individually weren't able to keep that level of dedicated players that log on every day I'm curious as to how it will be any different together. Guess it gives us bored people something to speculate on at work. I mean hey if it works for you that's all that matters in the end.fact is: our "zerg" will level out due to natural attrition and we will end up with a VERY solid and focused raid force of dedicated players that log on every day and WILL make it all the way through plane of time and beyond
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Am I the only person that sees the irony in a former CT member flaming for zerging.
I love this place. 
This is an honest question (read: NOT A FLAME OF ANY KIND): We're all well aware that Legion and Ixtlan merged... At some point you started raiding together, and when you felt the time was right, you became a single guild. Again, an honest question, but how is what PD/FS doing any different?


This is an honest question (read: NOT A FLAME OF ANY KIND): We're all well aware that Legion and Ixtlan merged... At some point you started raiding together, and when you felt the time was right, you became a single guild. Again, an honest question, but how is what PD/FS doing any different?
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Re: The Skinny...
Strange...seems to have worked for the Legion of IxtlanAslanna wrote:Or it will level out because people get tired of being in a huge unwiedly organization where they have a chance for loot like once every two months. If the two guilds individually weren't able to keep that level of dedicated players that log on every day I'm curious as to how it will be any different together. Guess it gives us bored people something to speculate on at work. I mean hey if it works for you that's all that matters in the end.
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Not that it really matters, but we only have 6 players in Fiends that used to be in Valhall. In fact, we have more from Farstorm ( 13 or 14 ), - Fiends is really just the "guild" incarnation of Fiend club, led by ex-FS/ex-valhall. The majority of the guild is it's own, not some other guild. So you could say - FoH, Valhall, PD, Fiends -- Estrella's missing but hey, we don't include team JPN on these forums anyways!Voronwë wrote:isnt a sizeable chunk of Fiends core the remnants of Valhall?Bendrax wrote:Jice wrote:
There have been exactly three guilds in the history of the server to get to elementals without entering in an aliance with another guild, so I wouldn't be so quick to criticise especially if you are not in Fiends, PD, or FOH.
Where is Valhall? Never remember us getting into elementals in alliance with anyone
but yeah, you should say that FoH, Valhall, then PD did it without an alliance, if that is what you want to do.
but more to the point, who fucking cares.
mods edit the llama post above so it doesnt stretch the screen thx =)
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Aslanna has plenty of room to talk. The difference? Oh, just about 55 people maybe. You ever been in a zone with an ixtleg/sovereign raid? Trust me, it's not quite near the 100 man marker, and they don't end up having to make more than one /raid~Taly wrote:What i don't get is why ASSlanna even cares. i mean Soverieng is Legion/Ixtlan
Whats the difference between that and FS/Pd other then u guys decided to merge?
You have no room to talk really =P
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Pravus is not absorbing Farstorm and Farstorm is not absorbing Pravus. We are two guilds. We will stay two guilds. Outside of raids, we do our own thing.Aslanna wrote:Absorbing (basically) another large guild is much different than mass recruitment how?
The roster might be a little deceiving. We probably have 50 people who log on once a day. However that is at various times, not all of those people are on at our peak hours. We (Farstorm) rely heavily on our two boxers. So, while our roster may say we have X number of "Active" members, your definition of active and ours is two different things.Aslanna wrote:Ok, we don't have to call it "zerg". What would you call 160+ active members? At least going by the latest rosters. I mean we have to call it "something." Maybe we could have a new thread where people can submit creative names. Wave of Lag or Death by Numbers... Things like that. Sounds fun!
We are still what we consider a family-casual guild.
Thanks for taking intrest. Have a wonderful day!
Legion and Ixtlan started raiding together mid-velious. At the time, both guilds were significantly smaller than most of our competition. We realized that in order to be competitors we needed to recruit heavily or form an alliance. I'm not saying that PD/FS is much different, except that they might already have the numbers. They aren't very small guilds here, like we were back in the day.We're all well aware that Legion and Ixtlan merged... At some point you started raiding together, and when you felt the time was right, you became a single guild. Again, an honest question, but how is what PD/FS doing any different?
I tell it like a true mackadelic.
Founder of Ixtlan - the SCUM of Veeshan.
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Voronwë wrote:not that i care, but if your guild has 50 people logging on everyday, you have a force capable to kill shit, assuming you have farmed the requisite AAs and equipment to succeed at a certain level (ie cleric manapools, etc).
Nneena wrote:We probably have 50 people who log on once a day. However that is at various times, not all of those people are on at our peak hours.
Hope that clears it up for you

I guess math isn't your strong point. I specifically said large guilds.Taly wrote:What i don't get is why ASSlanna even cares. i mean Soverieng is Legion/Ixtlan
Whats the difference between that and FS/Pd other then u guys decided to merge?
You have no room to talk really =P
Oh look, Taly made a funny with my name!!! I'm honored that you would spend your last shred of creativity on me.
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ahh ASSlanna made a post all for me i feel loved!
you worried ASSlanna? that why you started this lovly little post?
i got more creativity be lucky i spent that much on you.
you worried ASSlanna? that why you started this lovly little post?
i got more creativity be lucky i spent that much on you.
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I'm not flaming them, really. If you read my last sentence I even said "I mean hey if it works for you that's all that matters in the end."Aranuil wrote:Am I the only person that sees the irony in a former CT member flaming for zerging.I love this place.
This is an honest question (read: NOT A FLAME OF ANY KIND): We're all well aware that Legion and Ixtlan merged... At some point you started raiding together, and when you felt the time was right, you became a single guild. Again, an honest question, but how is what PD/FS doing any different?
It's an honest question as to why anyone needs those sort of numbers if they have the leet skillz to do "more with less" (haha!). If they are counting on "attrition" to land them at exactly the numbers they are looking for it seems like faulty logic to me. You'll never be able to see an exact comfortable number online all the time for very long.
As to how they are different? Oh, about twice the size I'd say.
Glad to clear that up for you.
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