There's a new zerg in town
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I really thought PE gave up on training people out of zones, but I guess you never forget your roots. Treating other guilds to trains, intentional or not, is going to bite you in the ass down the road when you need backflags from those guilds. The era of strongarm Velious era train and grab server politics is over in POP, even I know this. All another guild has to do to fuck you is lock one mob in the progression down in their time zone, something SI has proven they have the will and means to do, to end all of your advancement through POP. I am sure you can grasp the implications of the griefing potential there.
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There have been exactly three guilds in the history of the server to get to elementals without entering in an aliance with another guild, so I wouldn't be so quick to criticise especially if you are not in Fiends, PD, or FOH. Like Fair said, all concept of zerg is tossed out where flags are concerned. Those two guilds allying is pretty shrewd and pragmatic, as I am sure PD would like to advance and Im equally sure Farstorm is sick of getting griefed in Luclin. POP is all about numbers, anyhow; how many clerics and how many warm bodies you have.
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There have been exactly three guilds in the history of the server to get to elementals without entering in an aliance with another guild, so I wouldn't be so quick to criticise especially if you are not in Fiends, PD, or FOH. Like Fair said, all concept of zerg is tossed out where flags are concerned. Those two guilds allying is pretty shrewd and pragmatic, as I am sure PD would like to advance and Im equally sure Farstorm is sick of getting griefed in Luclin. POP is all about numbers, anyhow; how many clerics and how many warm bodies you have.
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What's really sad....
[quote="Spankes"]Yes, quite sad.[/quote]
Yeah, so much easier to just dump your "friends" and jump onto the coat tails of someone else.... while making snide comments about the "ease" of the progression you were unwilling to undertake.
Yeah, so much easier to just dump your "friends" and jump onto the coat tails of someone else.... while making snide comments about the "ease" of the progression you were unwilling to undertake.
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Re: What's really sad....
Thanks anon post JACKASS.Annoyed123 wrote:Yeah, so much easier to just dump your "friends" and jump onto the coat tails of someone else.... while making snide comments about the "ease" of the progression you were unwilling to undertake.Spankes wrote:Yes, quite sad.
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Re: What's really sad....
Skogen is, as always, spot on.Skogen wrote:Thanks anon post JACKASS.Annoyed123 wrote:Yeah, so much easier to just dump your "friends" and jump onto the coat tails of someone else.... while making snide comments about the "ease" of the progression you were unwilling to undertake.Spankes wrote:Yes, quite sad.
Yet another person who won't dare post there in-game name, while taking shots at some others. Pussy.
Great thread btw.
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I would still say that Spangaloid is.. Spangaloid.cid wrote:Then if I say we did not train anyone, what would you say?
I would add that he is not an individual who I would allow to be seen as a mouthpiece for any organization I was running, and that... if you, Cid told me that you did not train anyone, I'd be highly skeptical of claims to the contrary because like Miir, I know you to not be a fucktard.
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fuck you, asshole...i was there, i saw what happened. i knew there was 1 PE monk in raid and another at zone in awaiting CoTH once we clicked the orb after DXXT.Aranuil wrote:I would still say that Spangaloid is.. Spangaloid.cid wrote:Then if I say we did not train anyone, what would you say?
I would add that he is not an individual who I would allow to be seen as a mouthpiece for any organization I was running, and that... if you, Cid told me that you did not train anyone, I'd be highly skeptical of claims to the contrary because like Miir, I know you to not be a fucktard.
I know PE engaged and killed Dyek and FS/PD should have never leap frogged to DXXT in the first place.
I saw their casters on mounts.
I saw our SoS rogue return to our raid force at after joining the coth mage's group with full HP.
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A tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury...Spang wrote:fuck you, asshole...i was there, i saw what happened. i knew there was 1 PE monk in raid and another at zone in awaiting CoTH once we clicked the orb after DXXT.Aranuil wrote:I would still say that Spangaloid is.. Spangaloid.cid wrote:Then if I say we did not train anyone, what would you say?
I would add that he is not an individual who I would allow to be seen as a mouthpiece for any organization I was running, and that... if you, Cid told me that you did not train anyone, I'd be highly skeptical of claims to the contrary because like Miir, I know you to not be a fucktard.
I know PE engaged and killed Dyek and FS/PD should have never leap frogged to DXXT in the first place.
I saw their casters on mounts.
I saw our SoS rogue return to our raid force at after joining the coth mage's group with full HP.
Devereux please don't threaten us with your oh-so-cleverly-contrived flames.
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First of all PE did not train SI with our SoS rogue that was setting up our COH, he came back to the raid full HP, if his SoS broke I can't imagine he would have lived or at least not been hurt in some way. Second we did not train the FS/PD zerg force that leapfrogged us to a named after we killed the mob to despawn the warders so that they could even get there. I absolutely HATE getting tells over and over and over again claiming some BS. What I want to know is why the hell PD/FS thinks they even need to be in VT, aren't you elemental flagged? Thought so, so why not move there? Oh and why couldn't you do it with only your own guild? PE was there doing just fine all by ourselves.
Exactly what do you know of this situation Aranuil? Were you there?Aranuil wrote:A tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury...Spang wrote:fuck you, asshole...i was there, i saw what happened. i knew there was 1 PE monk in raid and another at zone in awaiting CoTH once we clicked the orb after DXXT.Aranuil wrote:I would still say that Spangaloid is.. Spangaloid.cid wrote:Then if I say we did not train anyone, what would you say?
I would add that he is not an individual who I would allow to be seen as a mouthpiece for any organization I was running, and that... if you, Cid told me that you did not train anyone, I'd be highly skeptical of claims to the contrary because like Miir, I know you to not be a fucktard.
I know PE engaged and killed Dyek and FS/PD should have never leap frogged to DXXT in the first place.
I saw their casters on mounts.
I saw our SoS rogue return to our raid force at after joining the coth mage's group with full HP.
Devereux please don't threaten us with your oh-so-cleverly-contrived flames.
Only an idiot comments on subjects they have no first hand knowledge of.
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There have been exactly three guilds in the history of the server to get to elementals without entering in an aliance with another guild, so I wouldn't be so quick to criticise especially if you are not in Fiends, PD, or FOH.
Even if they arent anymore, make it four , Valhall.
There have been exactly three guilds in the history of the server to get to elementals without entering in an aliance with another guild, so I wouldn't be so quick to criticise especially if you are not in Fiends, PD, or FOH.
Even if they arent anymore, make it four , Valhall.
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Please show me a post where I'm commenting on the 'situation' other than saying:
1. Spangaloid is an idiot, and someone I would go to great lengths to prevent from speaking for me. I can give you examples of his idiocy, I have firsthand knowledge.
2. Miir made better arguments than Spangaloid. Again I can provide you with examples.
3. Cid and Miir are both individuals whom I respect. I can go into lengthy explanations of why this is the case.
I'll wait.
1. Spangaloid is an idiot, and someone I would go to great lengths to prevent from speaking for me. I can give you examples of his idiocy, I have firsthand knowledge.
2. Miir made better arguments than Spangaloid. Again I can provide you with examples.
3. Cid and Miir are both individuals whom I respect. I can go into lengthy explanations of why this is the case.
I'll wait.
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I don't particularly think yelling, cursing and whining will win anyone an argument...so unless you intend to actually address the problem in a civil manner all that will happen is that PE will look exactly like what people are accusing it of being, when in fact it is not
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Re: What's really sad....
haha. My friends know who they are and know how I feel. I left PD because of the whining when I pushed for progression. It isnt hard to progress....but guess what, it doesnt happen in VT on your 6th(?) fucking month. Progression comes from desire, a willingness to die repeatedly learning a strat and the ability to place progression above the desire for 30 loots from VT.Annoyed123 wrote:Yeah, so much easier to just dump your "friends" and jump onto the coat tails of someone else.... while making snide comments about the "ease" of the progression you were unwilling to undertake.Spankes wrote:Yes, quite sad.
I had a desire to grow, the guild I was in did not, I left. End of story. And, in seeing the last 2 months of "progression" I was not even a little bit off the mark. None the less, I love the people of PD, always will. My voice not only was barely heard, it was hardly considered, and so I left.
Finally, you are spineless, that is all.
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As to the main topic of the thread though...I don't get why so many people like poking fun at zerg forces...yeah they may have gotten the job done with a lot more people than YOUR guild did, but that is not to say that they didn't do it with the same savy or experience as your guild did...and to those of you who criticize other guilds for zerging a mob that you yourself have yet to encounter: please go die, kthxbye ![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/wink.gif)
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Re: What's really sad....
Psnak!Spankes wrote:haha. My friends know who they are and know how I feel. I left PD because of the whining when I pushed for progression. It isnt hard to progress....but guess what, it doesnt happen in VT on your 6th(?) fucking month. Progression comes from desire, a willingness to die repeatedly learning a strat and the ability to place progression above the desire for 30 loots from VT.Annoyed123 wrote:Yeah, so much easier to just dump your "friends" and jump onto the coat tails of someone else.... while making snide comments about the "ease" of the progression you were unwilling to undertake.Spankes wrote:Yes, quite sad.
I had a desire to grow, the guild I was in did not, I left. End of story. And, in seeing the last 2 months of "progression" I was not even a little bit off the mark. None the less, I love the people of PD, always will. My voice not only wasn't heard, it was hardly considered, and so I left.
Finally, you are spineless, that is all.
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I don't see how PD dragging Farstorm around for flags on half of PoP's encounters when they (Farstorm) has never beaten them before entails either savy or experience.Fesuni Chopsui wrote:that is not to say that they didn't do it with the same savy or experience as your guild did...
Edit: For clarity.
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Now, I don't particularly love or hate ( well maybe one~ ) any of the involved guilds, nor do I know about everything that happened since I wasn't there... but!
In the defense of PE, due to the wonderfully implemented warder system in Vex Thal, in essence, the guild that kills Kaas Thox Xi Ans Dyek ( blob1 ) gets full claim to the AHR 'cycle' since all of the related mobs ( KTXAD, DXXT, TVK, DXVT/TVK, VXAHR ) have warders guarding the next mob as well as one in AHR's room ( in other words, you need to kill them all to kill AHR - KTXAD has one in her room for sure ). You might as well consider blob1 the trigger to a cycle ( what it should have been in the first place instead of the fucktard warder BS ). If a guild leapfrogs you to DXXT after you kill blob1, yeah that's pretty damn gay. Not saying you didn't but I would've petitioned - yeah, customer service does exist sometimes.
However, I have no trouble whatsoever believing you guys would train PD/FS, which is just as lame. And to add to the joke, they control your train and then you try to break the mezzes? Lol? Do you people in PE still wonder why other guilds treat you the way they do? Jesus Christ, when I was in Farstorm, there were so many fucking times you shitheads trained us in Ssra trying to get mobs that were rightfully FS's. Arch Lich / Cursed ring a bell? Not to mention in Fiends, during a Cursed raid you guys sent about 18 or 19 melee chars into charm range without resists, intentionally getting charmed, trying to gangbang Luggz and once again fail horribly at attempt to cheat your way into getting a mob.
If you guys really did get ans dyek fair and square well, no, you shouldn't get leapfrogged. But with a history like yours, I'd probably just call it good old fashioned payback. Morons.
In the defense of PE, due to the wonderfully implemented warder system in Vex Thal, in essence, the guild that kills Kaas Thox Xi Ans Dyek ( blob1 ) gets full claim to the AHR 'cycle' since all of the related mobs ( KTXAD, DXXT, TVK, DXVT/TVK, VXAHR ) have warders guarding the next mob as well as one in AHR's room ( in other words, you need to kill them all to kill AHR - KTXAD has one in her room for sure ). You might as well consider blob1 the trigger to a cycle ( what it should have been in the first place instead of the fucktard warder BS ). If a guild leapfrogs you to DXXT after you kill blob1, yeah that's pretty damn gay. Not saying you didn't but I would've petitioned - yeah, customer service does exist sometimes.
However, I have no trouble whatsoever believing you guys would train PD/FS, which is just as lame. And to add to the joke, they control your train and then you try to break the mezzes? Lol? Do you people in PE still wonder why other guilds treat you the way they do? Jesus Christ, when I was in Farstorm, there were so many fucking times you shitheads trained us in Ssra trying to get mobs that were rightfully FS's. Arch Lich / Cursed ring a bell? Not to mention in Fiends, during a Cursed raid you guys sent about 18 or 19 melee chars into charm range without resists, intentionally getting charmed, trying to gangbang Luggz and once again fail horribly at attempt to cheat your way into getting a mob.
If you guys really did get ans dyek fair and square well, no, you shouldn't get leapfrogged. But with a history like yours, I'd probably just call it good old fashioned payback. Morons.
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HAHAHAHAFesuni Chopsui wrote:I don't particularly think yelling, cursing and whining will win anyone an argument...so unless you intend to actually address the problem in a civil manner all that will happen is that PE will look exactly like what people are accusing it of being, when in fact it is not
WTF!!!
All you did was yell, curse, whine and flame out when you argued here. Has it been that long? Do a search under your name, read your posts then think twice about what you just wrote.
I have an idea. Why don't you start quoting Ayn Rand and throw out some pop philosophy, so that the 85% illiterate here can become acquainted with Cliff notes, while the other 15% get a refresher course on Modern American cliches.Aranuil wrote: A tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury...
Devereux please don't threaten us with your oh-so-cleverly-contrived flames.
Devereaux: I'll take Flamevault Personalities for $500 plz Alex.
Alex: This gregarious message board spammer is known for coining famous phrases such as 'I'm calling you out bitch, you want a piece of me?', 'Internet rape is a serious offense, dude', 'Lock this thread, plz', and 'Just ask all of my friends'.
Devereaux: Who is Araneedstogetlaidfromarealwomaninsteadoffrompaychecktopaycheck?
Alex: Judges?
(buzzer)
Alex: I'm sorry Dev, but the correct answer is Aranuil.........
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Although I despise you and everything you stand for and think you should be run over by an 18-wheeler...I must admit, that was fucking hilariousdevereaux wrote:I have an idea. Why don't you start quoting Ayn Rand and throw out some pop philosophy, so that the 85% illiterate here can become acquainted with Cliff notes, while the other 15% get a refresher course on Modern American cliches.Aranuil wrote: A tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury...
Devereux please don't threaten us with your oh-so-cleverly-contrived flames.
Devereaux: I'll take Flamevault Personalities for $500 plz Alex.
Alex: This gregarious message board spammer is known for coining famous phrases such as 'I'm calling you out bitch, you want a piece of me?', 'Internet rape is a serious offense, dude', 'Lock this thread, plz', and 'Just ask all of my friends'.
Devereaux: Who is Araneedstogetlaidfromarealwomaninsteadoffrompaychecktopaycheck?
Alex: Judges?
(buzzer)
Alex: I'm sorry Dev, but the correct answer is Aranuil.........
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ROFLMAOdevereaux wrote:I have an idea. Why don't you start quoting Ayn Rand and throw out some pop philosophy, so that the 85% illiterate here can become acquainted with Cliff notes, while the other 15% get a refresher course on Modern American cliches.Aranuil wrote: A tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury...
Devereux please don't threaten us with your oh-so-cleverly-contrived flames.
Devereaux: I'll take Flamevault Personalities for $500 plz Alex.
Alex: This gregarious message board spammer is known for coining famous phrases such as 'I'm calling you out bitch, you want a piece of me?', 'Internet rape is a serious offense, dude', 'Lock this thread, plz', and 'Just ask all of my friends'.
Devereaux: Who is Araneedstogetlaidfromarealwomaninsteadoffrompaychecktopaycheck?
Alex: Judges?
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Alex: I'm sorry Dev, but the correct answer is Aranuil.........
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There were about 30 PE and 40 PD/FS in VT.Second we did not train the FS/PD zerg force
Since when does 40ish in VT raid constitute a zerg force?
Anyway, your monks did train us with about 16 mobs and I don't find it hard to believe that most of you had no idea what was going on.
Regardless, the extra adds made an otherwise boring fight a bit more interesting.
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Here is a good read
http://shadowpuma.50megs.com/si/sin_vt1st.html
This was SI's first visit to VT. There are many reason why they could have gotten trained. All I can say is that it was not us.
So once PE/FS thought we trained SI, they decided to pay us back.
SI we(PE) did not train you. Congratz on getting into VT. You will soon learn how much this zone bites.
http://shadowpuma.50megs.com/si/sin_vt1st.html
This was SI's first visit to VT. There are many reason why they could have gotten trained. All I can say is that it was not us.
So once PE/FS thought we trained SI, they decided to pay us back.
SI we(PE) did not train you. Congratz on getting into VT. You will soon learn how much this zone bites.
Ok maybe 40 isn't a zerg force, again I will ask why couldn't you do it on your own? Why bring 2 guilds to do something we were doing just fine with on our own? Not have enough online? Then don't raid, that's pretty easy. As far as our monks go, 1 was with us and he was in targetable range of me the whole time, the other was at zone in waiting for CoH, not sure how they could have done it.miir wrote:There were about 30 PE and 40 PD/FS in VT.Second we did not train the FS/PD zerg force
Since when does 40ish in VT raid constitute a zerg force?
Anyway, your monks did train us with about 16 mobs and I don't find it hard to believe that most of you had no idea what was going on.
Regardless, the extra adds made an otherwise boring fight a bit more interesting.
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ROFLMAOdevereaux wrote:I have an idea. Why don't you start quoting Ayn Rand and throw out some pop philosophy, so that the 85% illiterate here can become acquainted with Cliff notes, while the other 15% get a refresher course on Modern American cliches.Aranuil wrote: A tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury...
Devereux please don't threaten us with your oh-so-cleverly-contrived flames.
Devereaux: I'll take Flamevault Personalities for $500 plz Alex.
Alex: This gregarious message board spammer is known for coining famous phrases such as 'I'm calling you out bitch, you want a piece of me?', 'Internet rape is a serious offense, dude', 'Lock this thread, plz', and 'Just ask all of my friends'.
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Alex: Judges?
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This is not a flame.sarama wrote:Ok maybe 40 isn't a zerg force, again I will ask why couldn't you do it on your own? Why bring 2 guilds to do something we were doing just fine with on our own? Not have enough online? Then don't raid, that's pretty easy. As far as our monks go, 1 was with us and he was in targetable range of me the whole time, the other was at zone in waiting for CoH, not sure how they could have done it.miir wrote:There were about 30 PE and 40 PD/FS in VT.Second we did not train the FS/PD zerg force
Since when does 40ish in VT raid constitute a zerg force?
Anyway, your monks did train us with about 16 mobs and I don't find it hard to believe that most of you had no idea what was going on.
Regardless, the extra adds made an otherwise boring fight a bit more interesting.
You might want to rethink your statement, and here's why... Have you ever been in an experience group with people outside of PE? Of course you have. If you couldn't get enough people from PE, why didn't you just, log off for the night? Saying a guild shouldn't raid with another guild if they don't have enough people on is not a very realistic request.
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I guess this means you don't have a response to my earlier post? I thought you weren't going to flame anymore? It looked to me like you were calling me an idiot. Guess that no flaming thing lasted a long time...
Oh what am I saying, you're not even posting anymore, so you couldn't possibly be flaming anyone...
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haha.. guess the truth hurts.
You were second in command... leading more raids and spending more online than even the guild leader. How could your voice NOT be heard? It's ok... you can just admit you quit.
And yes.. why would I use my real handle ... so you could harass me online? That would be smart.
You were second in command... leading more raids and spending more online than even the guild leader. How could your voice NOT be heard? It's ok... you can just admit you quit.
And yes.. why would I use my real handle ... so you could harass me online? That would be smart.
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FS have killed every named in VT multiple times without the help of, or guests from other guilds.Ok maybe 40 isn't a zerg force, again I will ask why couldn't you do it on your own? Why bring 2 guilds to do something we were doing just fine with on our own? Not have enough online? Then don't raid, that's pretty easy. As far as our monks go, 1 was with us and he was in targetable range of me the whole time, the other was at zone in waiting for CoH, not sure how they could have done it.
PD have killed every named in VT multiple times without the help of, or guests from other guilds.
Bangador was the only one who I personally witness training us.
He came barreling across DXXT spawn spot with about 8 mobs behind him, then proceeded to flop in the door and dump his train on us. There is probably about 20 people in out combined guilds who witnessed it as well.
Also, can you explain why Maylindra was intentionaly and repeatedly breaking the mezzes on those mobs you trained on us?
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Re: Spineless .. WHATEVER
You use you're real handle so people know you're not talking out of your fucking ass, and making shit up (though that doesn't work for everyone on this board). If you're not man enough to stand behind what you say then shut your fucking hole.Annoyed123 wrote:haha.. guess the truth hurts.
You were second in command... leading more raids and spending more online than even the guild leader. How could your voice NOT be heard? It's ok... you can just admit you quit.
And yes.. why would I use my real handle ... so you could harass me online? That would be smart.
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Re: Spineless .. WHATEVER
PUSSY.Annoyed123 wrote:haha.. guess the truth hurts.
You were second in command... leading more raids and spending more online than even the guild leader. How could your voice NOT be heard? It's ok... you can just admit you quit.
And yes.. why would I use my real handle ... so you could harass me online? That would be smart.
You're not using your real handle because this leaves you an out for all accountability for the shit you talk, not for being harassed in game. Nice excuse, though.
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Yeah, that would be smart, because perish the thought you would ever want to talk shit and have a real name to back it up with. A fucking dolt as yourself deserves to be harassed.Annoyed123 wrote:haha.. guess the truth hurts.
You were second in command... leading more raids and spending more online than even the guild leader. How could your voice NOT be heard? It's ok... you can just admit you quit.
And yes.. why would I use my real handle ... so you could harass me online? That would be smart.
Can we get an IP check on this guy prs~?
Perhaps you should not speak of what you do not know. Yes, I was second in command. When Trias was not online my word was law. Where were we when I was on? Oh, that is right, I got us together for rallos, I learned the strat to do him with, I dragged the guild through the event until we beat it. After that? Oh yeah, Air. I had us clearing islands and starting rings so we could try to get keyed for Xegony. What did I hear from people, including other officers? "this or that mob is up in VT." "This is too hard," "We can't do this," etc....
Still, I pressed on. I made posts in the officer forum about how we needed progression over farming and it met with resistance. I was told over and over again "we will fix it, we will do this, we will do that." So, I am working for progression...where is the guild when I am at work? Fucking VT. Not learning encounters, not watching for elemental spawns, VT.
There is nothing you can do or say that will show that I had nothing but the best intentions for PD the entire time I was there. I was the leader without the tag...anyone with any real amount of playtime knew that. I busted my ass for that guild, and though I don't regret a second of it, I grew tired if pulling people along. Most of PD is an amazing group of people capable of so much more than they give themselves credit for and I miss them every day, but it makes me sick to see how little they try.
Blame numbers, blame cockblocking, blame timezone, blame me, blame this, blame that....when will you, Mr./Mrs. Annoyed, take a little accountability for your lack of desire, drive and progression?
Still, I pressed on. I made posts in the officer forum about how we needed progression over farming and it met with resistance. I was told over and over again "we will fix it, we will do this, we will do that." So, I am working for progression...where is the guild when I am at work? Fucking VT. Not learning encounters, not watching for elemental spawns, VT.
There is nothing you can do or say that will show that I had nothing but the best intentions for PD the entire time I was there. I was the leader without the tag...anyone with any real amount of playtime knew that. I busted my ass for that guild, and though I don't regret a second of it, I grew tired if pulling people along. Most of PD is an amazing group of people capable of so much more than they give themselves credit for and I miss them every day, but it makes me sick to see how little they try.
Blame numbers, blame cockblocking, blame timezone, blame me, blame this, blame that....when will you, Mr./Mrs. Annoyed, take a little accountability for your lack of desire, drive and progression?
We weren't going to say antyhing about this, but you opened your mouth.
PE you guys are laughable.
We had 36 in zone, you had 4. Sneeekz ran past us, grabed some mobs, ran strait back to our force and hit escape; wiped us. Yeah, its your word versus our, but consider the credibitly. SI has been around since pre kunark days, under the same leadership we have now. Have you ever heared of us being in a spawn dispute with anyone? Have you ever seen our named mentioned in negative light on flamevault? We have been steamrolled, KSed, and trained before, have you ever heard us complain about it?
After we were trained, we didn't say a damn thing in ooc, we didn't make a fuss in anyway, or even send you guys a tell. However first thing sneekz did was start claiming he didn't train us. Up until now we havent said a single thing to your guild, yet you are already claiming you didn't train us?
While i can't confirm this peronsally, rumor has it that PE recieved a guild warning over what happened.
The saddest part of this was, we weren't even after the Aten cycle. We were there farming keys, and decided to try blob1 at the very end. Afterwards we were going to log out. Over the course of our raid, we talked with farstorm, pravus dei and silent heart, telling them we were going for blob1 only. We TRIED to talk to PE, but you were the only guild present that wouldn't respond to us.
If we had wanted to race you, you would have lost. We could have cohed at any time, several of our rouges already were keyed from when they were in Valhall, we simply werent interested in the named, minus one.
So a big FU, to you. Don't drag our name into your mud pit, we don't want anyting to do with you. And we don't want your sympathy/apologies. Your a joke.
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PE you guys are laughable.
We had 36 in zone, you had 4. Sneeekz ran past us, grabed some mobs, ran strait back to our force and hit escape; wiped us. Yeah, its your word versus our, but consider the credibitly. SI has been around since pre kunark days, under the same leadership we have now. Have you ever heared of us being in a spawn dispute with anyone? Have you ever seen our named mentioned in negative light on flamevault? We have been steamrolled, KSed, and trained before, have you ever heard us complain about it?
After we were trained, we didn't say a damn thing in ooc, we didn't make a fuss in anyway, or even send you guys a tell. However first thing sneekz did was start claiming he didn't train us. Up until now we havent said a single thing to your guild, yet you are already claiming you didn't train us?
While i can't confirm this peronsally, rumor has it that PE recieved a guild warning over what happened.
The saddest part of this was, we weren't even after the Aten cycle. We were there farming keys, and decided to try blob1 at the very end. Afterwards we were going to log out. Over the course of our raid, we talked with farstorm, pravus dei and silent heart, telling them we were going for blob1 only. We TRIED to talk to PE, but you were the only guild present that wouldn't respond to us.
If we had wanted to race you, you would have lost. We could have cohed at any time, several of our rouges already were keyed from when they were in Valhall, we simply werent interested in the named, minus one.
So a big FU, to you. Don't drag our name into your mud pit, we don't want anyting to do with you. And we don't want your sympathy/apologies. Your a joke.
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Go fuck yourself.
You are laughable. Once you learn VT, you will know the argo that goes with it.
You didn’t say anything? Then why did Sarama receive so many tells from your guild?
You are laughable. Once you learn VT, you will know the argo that goes with it.
You didn’t say anything? Then why did Sarama receive so many tells from your guild?
You read the enquire? That’s about how much reliability that statement hasWhile i can't confirm this personally, rumor has it that PE received a guild warning over what happened.
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