Buccaneers

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » September 9, 2003, 1:51 am

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masteen · Post by **masteen** » September 9, 2003, 1:23 pm

It was really great watching them dismantle to Iggles.

Shanter · Post by **Shanter** » September 9, 2003, 2:29 pm

That's a tough defense they got

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 9, 2003, 4:27 pm

Yah their defense rules, no question about it. Their offense wasn't that impressive, basicly got lucky on both TDs..

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » September 9, 2003, 4:36 pm

That defense and offense kept animale from beating me this week. I squeaked away with the win by less than a point.

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » September 9, 2003, 4:38 pm

That defense doesn't seem to have lost a bit from last year.

Badabidi · Post by **Badabidi** » September 9, 2003, 4:46 pm

Thier offense did better than the Eagles...

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » September 9, 2003, 4:52 pm

whats your point?

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » September 9, 2003, 7:56 pm

Manchester United is the best team in football though.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » September 9, 2003, 10:32 pm

Too bad the Bucs got Chris Simms.

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » September 9, 2003, 11:24 pm

Too bad he sucks.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » September 10, 2003, 3:43 am

Their offense wasn't that impressive, basicly got lucky on both TDs..

If you think those TD catches were luck, then you have a lot to learn about football. Joe J. is a professional, and he has proven it dozens of times, and did it yet again. THOSE WERE SKILL PLAYS.

I'll grant that their offense isn't the best or most fun to watch, but they are efficient. In fact, they looked much better than the beginning of last year.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » September 10, 2003, 9:01 am

Tampa Bay does look good.....they will look even better this year since they don't have the Steelers coming in to kick their ass all over their own turf again. Good move by the schedule makers. Paper champions indeed.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » September 10, 2003, 9:07 am

Pittsburg @ Kansas City this weekend, should be an awesome game. I'm playing against the guy with Priest Holmes in my fantasy league, so I gotta root for the Steelers D.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 10, 2003, 10:01 am

If you think those TD catches were luck, then you have a lot to learn about football. Joe J. is a professional, and he has proven it dozens of times, and did it yet again. THOSE WERE SKILL PLAYS.

Yeah and even professionals have luck. When the difference between a catch and out of bounds is an inch, you have some luck. It is skill that made him keep both feet down, it is luck that his toes weren't out of bounds. And please, that tip might as well have gone slightly differently.

If you don't think professional athletes sometimes rely on luxk you are on crack. Let's use Formula 1 qualifications as an example: The closest I have seen two of the drivers qualify is 3/1000s of a second. It's skill that gets them around that fast (some of the best drivers in the world), it is luck that decides wether you are #1 or #2.

Hell even the athletes themself admit they get lucky now and then.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » September 10, 2003, 11:09 am

I don't dispute that there is luck in the game. I dispute that either of those plays were lucky plays. Maybe the first touchdown, but definitely not the second one. Even in the first one if you notice the man kept his feet pointed to the infield as much as he could. He knew exactly where he was on the field, and the throw was precise.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » September 10, 2003, 3:59 pm

I don't doubt Joe J has skills (on my fantasy team) but that catch where he tipped it over the defenders and spun to catch it was pure fucking luck.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » September 11, 2003, 11:09 am

....

yah it was luck...

masteen · Post by **masteen** » September 11, 2003, 11:38 am

Joe has made catches like the second TD his whole career. He's a posession receiver who's bread and butter is tip-toeing down sidelines. The first was half luck (tipped ball comes to him) and half skill (eye on the ball=hands on the ball).

I think that Joe is looking to have a great year, and building on the success he started having late last season.

Badabidi · Post by **Badabidi** » September 22, 2003, 12:32 am

Bucs owned Atlanta

Shanter · Post by **Shanter** » September 22, 2003, 12:50 am

Bucs owned Atlanta

Shut your mouth

Post by **Sylvus** » September 22, 2003, 2:42 am

I'm sort of torn. On one hand, I love how Warren Sapp talks a bunch of shit. On the other hand, I think he's sort of a prick. At any rate, I find it somewhat humorous that as of right now, Sapp is like the 10th or 12th most productive Tight End in the league.

Fucking fantasy football.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 22, 2003, 9:33 am

Sapp is an asshole, pure and simple.

Deward · Post by **Deward** » September 22, 2003, 3:03 pm

Sapp can't hardly play defense anymore so they have to try and get their money out of him somehow. I hope someone falls on his knee and breaks it.

As a football coach (albeit 7th grade level), there is very little luck involved in football. Hand-eye coordination is very hard to teach. I have maybe one or two kids with natural ability to concentrate hard and get a ball if it is misplaced through throwing or tipping.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » September 22, 2003, 3:17 pm

yeah the reason they got him at tight end is because he sucks at defensive line.

Badabidi · Post by **Badabidi** » September 22, 2003, 4:27 pm

Looks like Sapp pissed in some of your cheerios, saying that he sucked at defense was pretty funny though!

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » September 22, 2003, 5:14 pm

atlanta's defense needs to fucking show up from Training camp sooner than later...

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » September 22, 2003, 5:25 pm

and they play Carolina next week!

Deward · Post by **Deward** » September 23, 2003, 11:07 am

Sapp is all talk. He was mediocre at best last year with an average 7.5 sacks. He certainly talked a lot more though to try and make up for it. If I remember right, they actually pulled him from the game on certain defenses last year.

I used to like him but last year between his trash talking and cheap hits, I just can't stand the guy anymore. He is an arrogant asshole and that is backed up by a lot of reporters and even young players. People who have tried to talk to him off the field are completely blown off. The guy thinks he's a god and he is just a has-been.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » September 24, 2003, 2:52 am

The reason his stats from last year are mediocre is because most teams in the league double team him. Do you think that it's a coincidence that Simeon Rice had 15.5 sacks? Football is team sport, bud, and individual stats mean jack and shit. In the game against ATL, he had what 3 tackles? But if you actually watched him play you would see that several times he beat his man and got into the backfield, forcing Dunn to change directions and bought enough time for someone else to get him in the backfield. He got back there and forced Doug Johnson to release the ball early, and caused an interception. But guess what? Dwight Smith got a credit for the interception. There are no stats representing what he brings as a player, and his presence and shit-talking intimidates other teams to no end. But an ignoramous such as yourself looks at the stat sheet, sees the number 7.5 and calls one of the best players in the league a has been.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 24, 2003, 10:32 am

One of the best players in the league? Puh-lease!

Even if he was the obvious number one I would call him trash due to his cheap shots.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » September 24, 2003, 10:49 am

When are the 49ers going to spot that the Tampax Bay Suckthequeers have stolen their kits?

Badabidi · Post by **Badabidi** » September 24, 2003, 4:46 pm

They won't, they're too busy getting their asses kicked by everyone they play

I wonder if some of you that talk so much shit about Sapp even watch the fucking game...

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » September 24, 2003, 5:38 pm

I hate sapp because he is an outright asshole. Playing the game is one thing. Bragging about a big play is one thing. Going to the press and degrating the other teams defense/offense by name is classless and pathetic.

He deserves to get fucked up like the guy from GB last year.

Post by **Sylvus** » September 24, 2003, 5:46 pm

Every time I look at the title of this thread, I'm reminded of the SNL parody of the Lord of the Rings when Chris Kattan played Gollum.

"We hates the buccaneers"

Sorry for the interruption. I think Sapp is pretty good!

masteen · Post by **masteen** » September 24, 2003, 6:31 pm

Warren Sapp is a great guy. He's bigger than Jesus and teh Beatles put together!

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » September 24, 2003, 7:13 pm

After last year's game against the Packers, pretty much all of Green Bay has a major dislike for Sapp. His shot on Clifton was cheap no matter how much you say you were just playing the game.

Crav · Post by **Crav** » September 24, 2003, 8:25 pm

Just out of curiosity if the Bucs don't resign him would you like him to be on your team? Speaking as a Cowboys fan I would say hell yea.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » September 24, 2003, 10:12 pm

I'd have to say yes. The reason being rather cliche but the saying goes, "Keep your friends close but your enemies closer".

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 24, 2003, 10:43 pm

I wonder if some of you that talk so much shit about Sapp even watch the fucking game...

Every week, that is why I have seen his lameass cheapshots.

No I would not want him on my team.. I got principles, and would have to fine him too often for it to be worth it.

Crav · Post by **Crav** » September 24, 2003, 11:31 pm

I meant would you want him on the team you support. Personally I think there are a lot dirtier players in the game and players that talk a lot more trash than Sapp. You can begin with Romanowski on the dirty side and T.O. on the talk side. The times I've seen him play I didn't notice him playing any dirtier than other players that play DT/NT. I saw the hit the made on Clifton and it seriously looked like Clifton wasn't paying attention to the play and got nailed and fell in a really bad way. Was it necessary? Probably not, but from everything I've ever learned about football the first rule is to never give up on a play. In that case one guy gave up on the play and the other didn't.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » September 25, 2003, 5:45 am

One of the best players in the league? Puh-lease!

Even if he was the obvious number one I would call him trash due to his cheap shots.

Every week, that is why I have seen his lameass cheapshots.

No I would not want him on my team.. I got principles, and would have to fine him too often for it to be worth it.

You crack me up. Just because the guy is cocky you think that takes away from his talent? Honestly, how many cheap shots have you seen him make? I know about the Clifton one (which btw was a legal hit) but what others have you seen? I know of only one time the man has actually been fined for roughness.

Morality in football, lol.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » September 25, 2003, 11:03 am

The first thing you learn in football is to keep your eyes open so you don't get fucking killed. Anyone who played the game at any level knows this, even my friend's 8 year old.

Sapp routinely gets cut blocked by fullbacks and tight ends. Do you hear him bitching about that shit? No, because it's how the game is played. If you don't wanna hit hard and get hit hard then you shouldn't be playing football.