Pils, what the fuck???

[Pilsburry]

I got so wrapped up in the story...I forgot to say grats on the kid even though I PM'd you hehe

[Siji]

I think Ransure trained me the other day on purpose

Nah. It's a ranger thing.

[Shashonna]

I met my husband online. We were both playing a mud that was ran by a RL friend and her husband. I started a character on there cause she wanted me to try it out. He was a long time player with a high level/powerful char. So here I am this clueless female trying to play and level and he comes along with advice, help and chatter. We talked on there for a few then started chatting on the phone. Over about 5months we spent a ton of hours together. Used online phones and well anything we could I had a pretty big phone bill hehe. I decided that I would drive the 12hrs to where he lived and get him. Now b4 this we had never met but I went there got him and brought him back home and that was 4yrs and 1 kid ago. We have a 3yr old son and I could never be more happier.

[Lalanae]

See Moon is more like me

Yes, verbose.

[Pilsburry]

I'm glad you came back. I mean without you coming back to act like a total bitch to someone so undeserving just brings a warm feeling to my heart.

I mean sure rip on me, but now you kinda brought moon into it. WHat did he do?

It's funny, because I actually think Bakara is a nice guy. How did that happen Bakara? Were you drunk?

[Truant]

Pils, shut the fuck up and take a mother fucking breath.

Verbose is not an insult. Verbose is a descriptive word meaning you use a lot of words.

Chill the fuck out. You're way out of line on your insults, not to mention it came out of nowhere. No that is not a moderator or anything talking...that's me to you

fuck's sake

[Sheryl]

Dear Pilsburry,
http://www.m-w.com
Love,
Sunserae

[Jarori Bloodletter]

I'm happy for him....just curious how that stuff works.

Don't ask so much and try things yourself. Start off by frenching a light socket and give us your results with and without the lamp plugged in.

Holy shit I laughed hard at that Winnow~

Great reply~

[Pilsburry]

Yes Verbose isn't normally an insult, unless it comes out of a mouth of someone who generally spews only insults. Like if any one of Teh fnord said it...it's probably an insult.

So I still stand by the fact it was a quick jab, because I've dealt with her before.

If she has a problem with me calling her out, and really meant nothing by it, then I'll apologize...but after she apologizes for all the unnecessary flames she has done to everyone on this board over the past 6 months I have been reading.

[Dregor Thule]

I'm glad you came back. I mean without you coming back to act like a total bitch to someone so undeserving just brings a warm feeling to my heart.

I mean sure rip on me, but now you kinda brought moon into it. WHat did he do?

It's funny, because I actually think Bakara is a nice guy. How did that happen Bakara? Were you drunk?

Who did she act like a total bitch to that was undeserving? I'm missing something here!

[Zamtuk]

Dregor, you asked for it. An eleven paragraph response that never really touches on the point.

[Lalanae]

I find it amusing that the one time Pils tries to defend himself, it's because I called him "verbose" . . . not like he hasn't been called worse . . . on this thread even . . .


P.S. Bakara may have his "Jerry's Kids" moments but he still knows a tard when he sees one.

[Kudo]

hey guys lets see if we can hit 20 pages here~

[Adex_Xeda]

My cousin in Texas hooked up and married a chat friend from Canada.

She's a nice lady.

[*~*stragi*~*]

This thread demands the Bakara cocksock.
YES!

[Pilsburry]

I wasn't defending myself. I was defending Moongrin.

He didn't do anything wrong and he seems like a nice guy.

[Truant]

When are you people going to realize that the fnord is an imaginary organization made up by Atokal to explain why there were masses of people that didn't like him.

There really isn't a group of people that sit around in dark rooms deciding who we are going to flame next. A few of us here happen to be real life friends, and share a common distaste for incompetence.

[Lalanae]

It was early October, 1996....

I was living in north east Pennsylvania. I had just purchased my new Macintosh Performa 6400 and was eager to set it up. AOL was not entirely new...but it did not have a firm chokhold on the market. Of course, a free trial of 10 whopping hours for AOL came with my new computer. I joined AOL under the screen name CeltsRisng. One of the first things I found was an online bulletin board for people interested in Scotland. Since that is where I was born and raised, I made a post.

I was interested in finding a penpal from Scotland. It was a purely platonic endeavor. A little more than a month later, I had signed on to AOL after getting home from work. I was greated with "You've got mail!". Now this was a very rare occurence indeed. There was no mass spam mailing...and I had not corresponded with anyone as of yet...so there was normally no mail for me to read. The e-mail was from someone named CelticSoul. This person said they liked what I had posted and wanted to have a penpal as well.

Now...this is where it gets tricky. I thought I was corresponding with someone from Scotland. This CelticSoul person thought THEY were corresponding with someone presently living in Scotland. It took us over a month before we finally realized that neither of us were in Scotland. In fact, the day I found out this person was not in Scotland was the same day I found out this person was a female. You see, the e-mails were pretty non descript. We included things like...."What type of music do you like....who is your favorite poet....Have you seen this movie yet...? Well, this day, she did not sign her e-mail with the usual, "CelticSoul". She signed it..."Anne". My reply to that e-mail was signed, "Matthew". And thus we found out a little more about one another.

Fast forward to February. We now knew that I was living in Pennsylvania and she was living in Kansas. We had exchanged addresses and sent one another small trinkets....books...a tape of favorite songs...letters...etc. Then one late February day I got up the nerve to ask for her phone number...and she e-mailed me her number. I called her the very next day from work (on my lunch break). That call lasted about 10 minutes...with hardly a word to be said. It was very awkward and I felt like such a dork. I did nearly all of the talking...because when I stopped talking...there was silence. Later we both signed online and IM'd each other...and we were laughing at how easy it was to talk online and how hard it was to talk on the phone. I told her that now that we have broken the ice, the next call will be much better. So after we signed off of AOL late that night...I called her. She was not expecting the call. We talked from midnight until around six AM.

Over the course of the next few months, we would talk for a few hours in IM's then talk on the phone for an hour or two. It became very difficult to talk in IM's when all we wanted to do was talk on the telephone and make things a bit more real. One evening, I asked Anne about her graduation from university. She was graduating in mid May and we had been talking about meeting in real life. I asked her if I could come out to visit and come to her graduation. That worked out well for both of us. I booked fare for 10 days in Wichita, Kansas. The plan was for me to stay in the guest room at her apartment...even though I offered to get a hotel room many times.

I arrived in Wichita the day before her graduation. The meeting was wonderful...there in the airport...few words were said...few words were needed. Most of that first day is still an amazing blur...lots of staring into one another's eyes...lots of talking...it was sublime. THe next day, I attended her graduation. The odd part was afterward I had to go to her parents house (we met at the graduation) and meet her entire family...aunts...uncles...cousins...grandparents....friends....it was family overload for me. I do remember one of her uncles saying, "So this is the wierdo you met on the computer?" Heh....

The next 8 days were spent just Anne and I pretty much. I did meet some of her friends, but it was mostly just the two of us. She took me to see the sights of Wichita (yes, there are sights here...the largest city in KS...500,000 people). We spent a lot of good time getting to know one another. I did not want to leave...she did not want me to leave...but my stay had come to an end.

When I arrived back in PA, we began to talk even more on the phone. My phone bill for the month of June was over $1200. I asked her if she wanted to seriously pursue a relationship...even if we did live 1400 miles apart. We both wanted to. I told her that I did not want this to be a long distance relationship...and after much talk, we decided that I would move to Kansas (it would be cheaper to move than paying a $1200 phone bill every month ). I applied at nearly 40 places in Wichita. One day, I was home for lunch...the phone rang. It was a lady from Kansas wanting to conduct a telephone interview with me. She said she has never nor would normally ever consider doing an interview over the telephone...however she felt motivated to do so and would let me know at the end of the interview her reason for doing this odd interview.

The interview went very well. It turns out that the woman interviewing me was very big into geneology. Her ancestors hailed from a one streetlight town called Catawissa in Pennsylvania. On my resume, the job I was presently working was in Catawissa. She had always wanted to come back east and visit the town where her ancestors hailed from...and she took this as a good sign that someone from there was applying to work for her. It turns out that I took it as a good sign as well. I was offered the job right over the telephone.

I called Anne and told her about everything. I told her that I had a job and was going to move out to Kansas at the end of July. So one hot July morning at 6 AM, I loaded my car up with everything I could pack into it...I couldn't even see out the rear or side windows. I started my car up and drove west. 23 hours later...only stopping for fuel and some Jolt Cola...I arrived in Wichita Kansas. That was July of 1997.

June of 1999 we were married in a Renaissance wedding in the backyard at her parent's house. We honeymooned in Scotland. We bought our first house last year in March of 2002....and I am announcing here for the very first time anywhere....that on Tuesday of this week we found out that we are expecting our first child together.

Yes, I know it's a long story...but it is story worth mentioning (and I know Pils likes details and I didn't want to leave anything out... ). Internet relationships can and do work out. The internet is just another means of meeting another person....and since I did it nearly seven years ago...I sort of feel like a pioneer


Regards,

Moonwynd

To point out the obvious, well obvious to anyone here but you obviously Pils, NO ONE on this board read this. Why? Because no one is interested in spending 15 minutes reading some exceptionally VERBOSE post about something as mundane as two people hooking up.

/crayon off

[Pilsburry]

I fully read it.

It was posted to me in response to my question.

I feel it was 100% appropriate and I appreciated his answer.

As a matter of fact I had further questions for him regarding it and we PM'd a bit...so I guess it could be said it wasn't long enough.

[Zamtuk]

You remind me of an Ent off the Lord of the Rings.

[Kindo]

You remind me of an Ent off the Lord of the Rings.

haha
That tickled my funny bone!

[Pilsburry]

I'm going to regret asking this but....."what is an Ent?"

I assume it was the tree guardians because there was something about how it could take like days for them to hold a conversation etc...

It was a creative flame..here is my retort.

You remind me of a nerd who watches too many fantasy movies.

[Dregor Thule]

Pilsburry reminds me of a less creative Atokal.

[Zamtuk]

You remind me of a nerd who watches too many fantasy movies.

Somehow when typing that, I thought to myself, wow, someone will call me a nerd. Then I thought, hell, everyone here has seen the Lord of the Rings (which was one of the biggest movies of all time). After that I thought about the amount of hypocrisy that would stem from a statement knowing full well that they had played eq (a fantasy game) for 3+ years. And said, naw, noone is that stupid....

[noel]

I'm going to regret asking this but....."what is an Ent?"

I assume it was the tree guardians because there was something about how it could take like days for them to hold a conversation etc...

It was a creative flame..here is my retort.

You remind me of a nerd who watches too many fantasy movies.

Your retort sucked, fyi.

I actually think that name suits you a lot better than Captain Irrelevant.

I really don't think you're a bad guy Pils. You're definitely Verbose and TMI to the point of annoyance, but in general, I think you're an ok person with reasonably good intentions. You're definitely confused about a lot of things, but many people are.

Treebeard isn't really a slam. He talked slow, and said a lot, but he was a good guy. Without him, the quest to save middle earth would have ended at Helms Deep. In many ways, you should take it as a compliment.

Feel free to call me a nerd who watches too many fantasy movies or reads too many fantasy books. I'll happily consider the source, and think about how I actually date women.

[Rojer]

Pils, please find a hobby, or something...

[Pilsburry]

There is a difference between watching lord of the rings, and using it in daily conversation, especially small details about the movie in a flame.

It's like sure I watched star wars.....but I didn't pick up a broom and dance around with it pretending it's a lightsaber on video camera. It's a subtle difference but it's there.

[noel]

There is a difference between watching lord of the rings, and using it in daily conversation, especially small details about the movie in a flame.

It's like sure I watched star wars.....but I didn't pick up a broom and dance around with it pretending it's a lightsaber on video camera. It's a subtle difference but it's there.

It's not like we're arguing whether or not Gandalf really died here. Referencing a relativley important character in the second most popular literary work in Western Culture isn't that big a deal. The fact that you're having such a problem with it might just mean you're lacking culture.

PS When I was 9 I had a green plastic lightsaber, and my brother had a red one. I'd wave it around and we'd pretend to be in lightsaber duels with it. It kicked fucking ass.

[Zamtuk]

There is a difference between watching lord of the rings, and using it in daily conversation, especially small details about the movie in a flame.

It's like sure I watched star wars.....but I didn't pick up a broom and dance around with it pretending it's a lightsaber on video camera. It's a subtle difference but it's there.

No, you talked about your aspirations for swinging the broom and how your sister took it from you. Then the next morning you woke up to a loud noise, probably something falling, anyway, you went out to get that first drink of coffee with your bagel. After that, you strolled into work, 5 minutes late, luckily the boss didn't see you. That would have been trouble alright, real trouble.

Later that day you went home and noticed the clouds formed into shapes that were reminiscent of trees. How weird right? You passed this girl and couldn't help but stare at her. Then instead of asking her out, you proceeded to pick up the latest Stuff Magazine and proceeded home to eat dinner. Then play Everquest.

Oh wait, what was the subject again?

[Dregor Thule]

Hahaha

[Canelek]

This thread has turned out far better than I had hoped....

[Pilsburry]

I thought it was lame when Sylvus did it, but atleast he came up with it on his own.

Your lack of anything resembling creativity or intellegence astounds me, combine that with your previous use of a fantasy character in a flame...and I really don't see a very bright future for you.

Eventually even the people here will grow tired of you.

---------------
Now as for Aranuil. Quoting a literary work, is fine if the subject is literary work, or fantasy....

But when you use it in a flame, it's a sign your a nerd. Normal people don't call other people "Ents". I'm sorry, but they just don't. I can't remember the last time I heard someone call another person even a common fantasy name during an argument like ogre or troll...let alone something as obscure as "ent".

There is a line, it's kinda wide and fuzzy, but he definately crossed it.

I mean he strikes me as the type who is like "Psst, check out the cute wood-elf type if the corner!". See how that's over the line?

You leave fantasy for discussion of the book or movie, you don't start applying it to real life.

[noel]

Normal people don't call other people "Ents".

Should have read: Normal people don't call other normal people "Ents".

If the shoe fits...

[Sueven]

Pilsburry, shut the fuck up.

You are arguing about whether or not someone is a nerd based on the fact that they referenced a fantasy character because they used the term in a flame as opposed to regular conversation.

As Aranuil (and Zamtuk) so astutely pointed out, you sound like a fucking idiot.

Second most popular literary work in western literature... hahahaha

wow.

[Aslanna]

I think the term Ent was used not to reference a particular one (Treebeard) but the fact that it takes Ents a long time to say anything. Or as Tolkien wrote:

The language that they (Ents) had made was unlike all others: slow, sonorous, agglomerated, repetitive, indeed long-winded; formed of a multiplicity of vowel-shades and distinctions of tone and quantity which even the loremasters of the Eldar had not attempted to represent in writing. (1)

Second most popular literary work in western literature... hahahaha

Right behind the bible, isn't it? (Seriously)


(1) Appendix F

(I can spell!)

[Canelek]

Hehehehe...he called you a nerd...batton down the hatches! That is just plain mean!

[Dregor Thule]

Yea, it's sold the second most copies, behind the bible.

[Aslanna]

Did some research.. Half the sites say 'over 50 million' the other half say 100 million

NUMBERS

3,500 -- Initial print run of The Fellowship of the Ring. Publishers thought demand would not be great.

100,000 -- Number of paperback copies an American bootleg version of The Lord of the Rings sold in 1965 alone.

100 million -- As of 2001, estimated number of copies sold of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, making them the most popular fiction in the world.

40 -- Number of languages The Lord of the Rings has been translated into.

3 to 10 -- Factor by which book sales have increased with the hype from The Lord of the Rings film, despite fears from the Tolkien family.

Then we have this guy who, like Pils, seems to have never heard of it or believes it's sold less than 30,000,000.

[Pilsburry]

I never said it wasn't a popular book.
And I never said your a nerd just for reading it.

I said using the term ents in a flame is only something a nerd would do.
And I stand by that...

Now being a nerd isn't that bad of a rip, but I just had to point out that from my stand point being called an "Ent" by someone who probably attends fan faire in a cap and blue face paint is like.....laughable.

Now if he didn't act like a nerd I probably still wouldn't care about being called a name on VV.....but atleast I wouldn't laugh.

[Zamtuk]

I have never been to a computer related gathering ever. While you are on the subject, I have never been to: Star Trek convention, comic book convention, video game convention, or any convention for that matter. The fact that I called you an Ent just coincidentally happens to be around the time the Two Towers came out on dvd. The reason that I called you one, is because you fit the description to a tee.

As for the Sylvus remark, I have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't copy shit from anyone. Thanks though!

[noel]

Thanks Dregor and Aslanna.

I wasn't really clear on why Sueven laughed at that.

[Sueven]

Oh, I agree. I was laughing at the humor of the comment, since it's completely true. Sorry for the confusion.

Pils: Just give up.

[Pilsburry]

Sueven, unlike these other fucktards, there isn't even a shred of respect for you in the back of my mind, so don't even bother.

[noel]

I still think the title is humorous, and fitting.

Main difference between you and Treebeard, is that though he was verbose, he always said something important.

[Aslanna]

Main difference between you and Treebeard, is that though he was verbose, he always said something important.

Or humorous. I liked his intro in the book more than in the movie. (omg there's another one!)

[Sueven]

Good.

[Pilsburry]

Oh I agree I'm verbose at times.

But to me Zamtuk is inferior. He is a nerdy little uncreative sheep. And I had to make sure he knows that...because if he knows that's what I think of him, then he will understand why I don't give a flying fuck what he thinks about me.

Same with Chidoro, with him I imagine a pompus fat guy....he seems of the mindset that he can make things true. He just has to say it loud enough and then squash anyone who says anything to the contrary. Now he may not be fat, but that's my mental picture of him...because most guys I have known with his personality were fat in the past so he just inherited that picture.

I mean really....How can anyone take thier comments seriously?

It's like the majority of flames here, Truant, Aranuil, Kyoucan, Sylvus and the rest of the crew....I don't care what you call me because....I don't have respect for you. You might even be top dogs here on VV...but that doesn't hold any weight with me. I'm not that easily impressed.

I mean Aranuil...I actually consider you an equal. However I don't have respect for you either. You haven't earned it. You might be able to play the part of alpha male here and pick fights and impress some of the less intelligent members of this forum, but that type of bullshit doesn't work on me. I don't consider you "cool".

Now your probably going to say something about my posts....At this point I will remind you that while you have made opinions of me via my posts, I have also made opinions about you via yours. And whatever you happen to call me next week, you can be rest assured my opinion of your on-line persona is pretty low also...and that's why I don't care.

[Pilsburry]

Also Aranuil, I didn't mean to single you out, I just picked a name of people who tend to flame me.

[Kguku]

If you didn't care, then why do you bother writing a novel sized response stating this? Most people would just shrug their shoulders and walk away from it when they don't care.

but I guess it's that 'sometimes verbose' way of responding.

[noel]

There's no one on this board (anymore) I flame in anger. If meeting Winnow at FF taught me anything it's that I'd likely sit down and have a drink with every single one of you. The bullshit on this board is just that... bullshit, and whatever persona people think I have is really just an act that frankly I've grown tired of. Anyway, it is fun to watch you flail Pils, but don't take shit so seriously.