Sylvus

Skogen · Post by **Skogen** » September 12, 2003, 6:30 pm

devereaux wrote:Dregor is a crispy-haired jive turkey who has pork rind reserves stashed away in his rolls of jelly. On his free time he spins Star Wars soundtracks to the hip hop beat of Kool and the Gang while sipping Bacaradi Breezers at 18 and under shows.

See Toker? No need to PM shit when you can post it publicly. Not unless you have no originality and your humor's as dry as Lynxe's cobweb infested box.

Thanks for stopping by devereaux, and blessing us with yet another enlightening, useful post.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » September 12, 2003, 6:32 pm

No wait, wait. Did you just call someone a jive turkey? And was seriously trying to insult them? Oh that's great, bless your heart.

Taly · Post by **Taly** » September 12, 2003, 6:37 pm

Sylvus wrote:First off, I find no humor in pedophilia. I find humor in propagating the running joke of you of being a pedophile because it seems to bother you so much, not because I advocate any sort of child abuse. Your avatar makes me out to be an inbred yokel, something which I really hate, but it doesn't really bother me because I know it is so far off-base. I would probably be offended if it reflected even the slightest hint of who I am.

It begs the question, why does my avatar bother you so much? It's just a joke, or so I thought...

Its not even something to joke about!

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » September 12, 2003, 6:37 pm

And pray tell what is wrong with Kool and the Gang?!

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » September 12, 2003, 6:38 pm

Krimson Klaw wrote:No wait, wait. Did you just call someone a jive turkey? And was seriously trying to insult them? Oh that's great, bless your heart.

Ain't cool being a jive turkey so close to it being Thanksgiving.

Yeah!

Truant · Post by **Truant** » September 12, 2003, 6:41 pm

Taly wrote:Its not even something to joke about!

Everything is something to joke about. If you can't joke about something, you're taking it too seriously. That includes you, and your god.

you and your being the collective forms of the word, not you specifically Taly.

edit. Kool and the Gang is still some mad grooves.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » September 12, 2003, 6:42 pm

man you can just hear the violins playing during atokal's sad, sad story.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » September 12, 2003, 6:47 pm

Keep this up Kyoukan and you will recieve a pm!

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » September 12, 2003, 7:09 pm

Leave Kool and the Gang out of this!

/theme music on

With such hits as Celebration, Jungle Boogie, and Lady's Night, they should be enshrined!

Outta sight.

Anymore degrading talk of [KatG] will warrant an inflammatory PM from me!

Dig it.

/theme music off

Legenae · Post by **Legenae** » September 12, 2003, 8:45 pm

Taly wrote:
Sylvus wrote:First off, I find no humor in pedophilia. I find humor in propagating the running joke of you of being a pedophile because it seems to bother you so much, not because I advocate any sort of child abuse. Your avatar makes me out to be an inbred yokel, something which I really hate, but it doesn't really bother me because I know it is so far off-base. I would probably be offended if it reflected even the slightest hint of who I am.

It begs the question, why does my avatar bother you so much? It's just a joke, or so I thought...

Its not even something to joke about!

Neither is rape.

Taly · Post by **Taly** » September 12, 2003, 10:59 pm

Not everything is meant to joke about and i agree with Legs.

Some things are to be taken seriously. Would you be laughing and joking if you had a child who was raped?

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » September 13, 2003, 12:04 am

I really would disregard it. Because, I am smart enough to know that NO ONE but me on these message boards knew I was sensitive about the said subject. You really can't expect everyone to know what you do and don't find offensive.

Post by **Sylvus** » September 13, 2003, 12:20 am

Taly wrote:Not everything is meant to joke about and i agree with Legs.

I think you misunderstood.

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » September 13, 2003, 1:19 am

Aranuil wrote:Wow. Just wow. Such a pillar of integrity.

For the record asshole, I don't believe a word of your bullshit story, and I don't believe your other bullshit story about finding that abused child either.

You only have integrity when it serves your purpose. You're not even a fucking human PMing that shit to someone.

FUCK you Aranuil, unlike you I don't fucking lie. But it is very convenient to say shit like that. Hopefully someday we will meet face to face. Call me For the Record Fucknuts I never called you a rapist. But in your need to be the victim

you believe what you wish.

If it were true that I only had integrity when it served my purpose it would still be more integrity than you have experienced in your whole fucking life worm.

noel · Post by **noel** » September 13, 2003, 1:22 am

When was it not ok?

Did me attacking your lack of character and total classlessness in your PM to Dregor strike a nerve? Cry me a river.

When you draft up the PMs, try to at least make them interesting.

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » September 13, 2003, 1:27 am

Aranuil wrote:When was it not ok?

Do me a favor and make sure to make it really good.

Once again I will not sink to your levels or those of the dipshits on this board. Have fun joker. I won't be back you base cur.

noel · Post by **noel** » September 13, 2003, 1:30 am

Atokal wrote:
Aranuil wrote:When was it not ok?

Do me a favor and make sure to make it really good.
Once again I will not sink to your levels or those of the dipshits on this board. Have fun joker. I won't be back you base cur.

Sink to MY levels?

Take a look at that fucking PM you wrote. You weren't even enough of a man to call him out in public. You had to do it privately. What did you think? He'd cry himself to sleep at night worrying about what you think of him?

I have said this 1000 times. POST THE FUCKING PMs ATOKAL. Stop fucking threatening you dirty, despicable, piece of trash.

By the way. I recommend you not hope to meet me in real life. I'd hate for you to become an even worse example for your children.

No, of course you never called me a rapist. Not as recently as say... yesterday. On this very thread. A cyber-rapist is certainly not a rapist.

Kaelina · Post by **Kaelina** » September 13, 2003, 1:31 am

Post by **Sylvus** » September 13, 2003, 1:39 am

Atokal wrote:Hopefully someday we will meet face to face. Call me For the Record Fucknuts I never called you a rapist. But in your need to be the victim you believe what you wish.

That's not very nice. I don't think Aranuil will be in chicago, but I might! We can meet up and have a beer, I've never met a real live pedophile before!!!

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » September 13, 2003, 1:46 am

Jesus..

Laliana · Post by **Laliana** » September 13, 2003, 1:54 am

/sigh

noel · Post by **noel** » September 13, 2003, 2:16 am

I sincerely apologize to everyone who I care about who's having to read this shit. This is going to be my last post on the matter, hopefully ever.

Never called me a rapist?

Atokal wrote:Now listen close you slack-jawed, cyber-rapist fucktard.

Atokal wrote:However, I guess the world at large should be thankful that a sexual predator like yourself is kept off the streets by the internet.

Atokal wrote:Noel you are a Cyber-Rapist, Stalker etc. My guess is that there would not be one woman, or man who played a female character, that was not subject to your tells etc.

Atokal wrote:You Fucking Rapist!!11!

Good Riddance, filth.

Edit: PS I really hope this doesn't jeopardize any aspirations you have of being guilded with Farstorm.

Post by **Sylvus** » September 13, 2003, 2:17 am

Oh come on Aranuil, can't you read between the lines???

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » September 13, 2003, 2:47 am

I have lost count. How many times has Atokal been owned on this thread?

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » September 13, 2003, 4:11 am

Zamtuk wrote:I have lost count. How many times has Atokal been owned on this thread?

Take the total thread count and subtract the number of times Atokal posted on it. And then add half his total for the times he owned himself.

That's your answer.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » September 13, 2003, 4:56 am

Atokal wrote:[Once again I will not sink to your levels or those of the dipshits on this board. Have fun joker. I won't be back you base cur.

Oh thank jesus christ almighty. STICKY THIS THREAD FOREVER.

Valkeria · Post by **Valkeria** » September 13, 2003, 5:28 am

This whole thread has been rather disturbing. Pedophilia and pedophiles are not funny when they hit close to home but neither is accusing someone of being a rapist. Referring to the darker things in life with humour is a defensive mechanism, a way to deal with something that is unthinkable yet reality. Personally I would rather laugh then cry.

Whether or not what Atokal revealed in his PM is the truth or fiction is not for me to judge since I do not know him. To me Pedophilia is one of the worst crimes a human being can commit against another since it involves children who are innocent and should be protected by adults not abused by them. Being a counsellor when I did my internship I worked at a child crisis center through social services, many of the children I saw day in and out were victims of sexual abuse by pedophiles. Seeing the trauma that these children go through what they have to live with for the rest of their lives, the damage done and the knowledge that they were changed forever and may never recover. Then joking about it is far from one's mind. Its easier to joke about something when it has not affected your life to a personal degree. Pedophilia is a mental disfunction and even considered a disease. My opinion even being a counsellor is that therapy , drugs etc does not work they will reoffend given the chance and I personally would rip out their hearts with my bare hands if I could get ahold of them.

To Atokal although your daughter was at such a young age and may not have been able to verbally express any trauma there are signs that can be expressed. Many play therapists work with young children around her age and it may be an avenue to have her evaluated. There are many different signs such as change in behaviour where she may have started being independent now very clingy, if toilet training was started she may revert back, being afraid of anyone of the male sex, change in appetite, her starting speech may have stopped and on.(these can also be normal signs of a childhood a counsellor trained in dealing with abuse is much better equipped to deal with it ) But the one thing that is important is to not freak out and think that your child was harmed it may not be the case, and yes I know being a parent myself you are going to worry just be calm and be a supportive loving father.

I also do not know Aranuil nor do I judge him because of that yet I see many jump on the bandwagon to go along with the accusations and others to defend him strongly. THis thing with Atokal has been a bit of a running joke though not in length to the repeated accusations of rape against Aranuil. Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? Where is the evidence? Accusing him then saying that you have PMs but cannot post them due to the victims wanting to remain anonymous is wrong. The accusations should have never been brought out public. When the alleged stalking harassment cyber rape whatever you want to call it happened there are may avenues to persue thats why in game you have the /report feature and the CS to deal with it, outside of the game the email admins and so on. It was not done therefore no real proof since the *victims* have not stepped forward to deal with it.

Also before it gets on a tangent of the Sony CS does squat that is just bullshit. First and foremost sony is a retail company in order to sell their product they have to make their customers happy or they do not buy. Basic retail concept. But rules are in place due to many try to exploit the system making it harder for ones who do not. I am not saying all the rules are fair or that sony is perfect far from it. But I know personally in a situation like this or similar they will act. A few months ago a guildie of mine (in my old guild ) who we did not know his medical history was a manic depressive with suicidal tendencies on medication well he went off his medication and we noticed changes in behaviour and tried to help any way we could though not knowing the full story until one day he had an extreme outburst in guild chat after which the officer core spoke with him. He had threatned suicide in guild chat it was /reported and one officer went to the chat GM since no guides nor GMs were on the server. Chat GM right away checked the report brought up his account information and through sony they contacted the local authorities in his home town. They went over to his home and found him in the middle of harming himself and would have succeeded in ending his life if they had not got there in time. He was institionalized and put back on his medication and back in therapy where I am happy to say he is doing well and thankful that there was intervention done. (and yes we had personal contact with this person to know what happened was true)

So unless you have proof leave the accusations of such a serious thing to more private discussions harming anothers reputation and attacking them in such a personal dark way just for the sheer joy of it watching them suffer is disgusting.

However best you deal with the trauma of life and getting through it is your own as long as it does not hurt another.

Sorry for the long winded post.

Kguku · Post by **Kguku** » September 13, 2003, 6:46 am

Atokal wrote:Once again I will not sink to your levels or those of the dipshits on this board. Have fun joker. I won't be back you base cur.

I think hell finally froze over?

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » September 13, 2003, 8:04 am

Atokal you are such a whiny little hypocritical bitch. You don't seem to mind taking pot shots at anyone about anything personal or not but now you are "offended"? Classic case of another pussy who can't take it nearly as well as he can dish it out, and sadly, you can't even dish it out. I hope you follow through with your own words and stop posting, but I know that like everything else in your life, you will fail at this too.

The only good that comes from your entire existence is the 3 fuck utensils you birthed, and the fact that you and other imbeciles like you lower the standard of intelligence, making the rest of us look smarter than we are.

Now go fuck some 3rd graders you reject.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » September 13, 2003, 9:35 am

people who cause drama by declaring they're leaving and never coming back should be IP banned, because hey, they're never coming back right?

should be a rule.

Taly · Post by **Taly** » September 13, 2003, 11:59 am

Aranuil wrote:I
Edit: PS I really hope this doesn't jeopardize any aspirations you have of being guilded with Farstorm.

Uh who says he is coming to FS? as far as i know it he is still with PE

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » September 13, 2003, 12:04 pm

-edit- Was not necessary

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » September 13, 2003, 12:18 pm

Am I the only one that did not read this long thing?

All signs point to no.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » September 13, 2003, 12:39 pm

Well, Atokal did go over the over/under post count!! Drinks are on me!

Fesuni Chopsui · Post by **Fesuni Chopsui** » September 13, 2003, 1:47 pm

Sigh, if he had just not said anything

Truant · Post by **Truant** » September 13, 2003, 2:11 pm

Taly wrote:Not everything is meant to joke about...

Maybe you misread me.

I'll make it more clear and simple.

EVERYthing.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » September 13, 2003, 2:13 pm

If we couldnt joke about things because other people might be sensitive to them, then there would be nothing to joke about

Asheran Mojomaster · September 13, 2003, 3:04 pm

There should be a new rule here! Any subject that anyone in the world, at any time, may have been sensitive to in any way should never be joked about!! No need to offend anyone and make them feel bad just so we can laugh! Its wrong!

Now I need to go back downstairs to shoot up some heroin, fuck my cat, and go rape my grandmother, good day!

Taly · Post by **Taly** » September 13, 2003, 3:09 pm

Truant wrote:
Taly wrote:Not everything is meant to joke about...
Maybe you misread me.

I'll make it more clear and simple.

EVERYthing.

Sorry Truant but not EVERYthing. i read it just fine. To laugh and joke about something like rape and child molesting makes you just as sick as the person who does it. i feel sorry for your future kids if you ever have any and pray that they are never in this position.

Drolgin Steingrinder · September 13, 2003, 3:16 pm

The only thing that should set limits for what can be joked about here - and anywhere, really - is your own sense of decorum and consideration. Anything else is censorship.

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » September 13, 2003, 3:24 pm

Atokal wrote: FUCK you Aranuil, unlike you I don't fucking lie. But it is very convenient to say shit like that. Hopefully someday we will meet face to face. Call me For the Record Fucknuts I never called you a rapist. But in your need to be the victim you believe what you wish.

If it were true that I only had integrity when it served my purpose it would still be more integrity than you have experienced in your whole fucking life worm.

Ohh yeah, well fuck fuck fuck, fuckity fuck fuck

And furthermore, fuck

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » September 13, 2003, 4:26 pm

Taly wrote:
Truant wrote:
Taly wrote:Not everything is meant to joke about...
Maybe you misread me.

I'll make it more clear and simple.

EVERYthing.
Sorry Truant but not EVERYthing. i read it just fine. To laugh and joke about something like rape and child molesting makes you just as sick as the person who does it. i feel sorry for your future kids if you ever have any and pray that they are never in this position.

this offends me. i was rendered sterile in a freak slip n slide accident and your comment about future kids hurt me right here. *points to heart*

oh yeah, and that other thread that talked about slip n slides offends me, too. those links to toy sites - oh the horror!

never talk or joke about these things again.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » September 13, 2003, 4:43 pm

What part of EVERYthing do you not understand?

it's one fucking word.

Kaelina · Post by **Kaelina** » September 13, 2003, 5:21 pm

Practically any joke can and will be taken offensively by SOMEONE. Maybe people who are sensitive to certain things should take heed to the description of the General Discussion forum, where it clearly says "No holds barred discussion" and "Not for the faint of heart". Last time I checked, everyone that posts or reads here WILLINGLY enters this forum. It's not as if anyone's eyes are being forced to read what is posted here.

There is also a difference between advocating those issues, and joking about them. Think it's not a laughing matter? Then ignore it, as I'm sure there are things YOU may find amusing, that someone else would be offended by as well.

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » September 13, 2003, 7:39 pm

Dregor touched my tribble once... and it was good

Taly · Post by **Taly** » September 13, 2003, 10:08 pm

/vomit

Vaemas · Post by **Vaemas** » September 14, 2003, 1:46 am

Drolgin forces me to read these boards. He said he would fly over from Denmark and beat me if I didn't.

Karae · Post by **Karae** » September 14, 2003, 3:14 am

Taly wrote:
Truant wrote:
Taly wrote:Not everything is meant to joke about...
Maybe you misread me.

I'll make it more clear and simple.

EVERYthing.
Sorry Truant but not EVERYthing. i read it just fine. To laugh and joke about something like rape and child molesting makes you just as sick as the person who does it. i feel sorry for your future kids if you ever have any and pray that they are never in this position.

Rape can be funny. Picture Elmer Fudd raping Porky Pig.

Taly · Post by **Taly** » September 14, 2003, 11:02 am