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Rojer · Post by **Rojer** » August 12, 2003, 1:50 am

I do, however, reserve the right to label any of you assholes who ram needles into your arms and snort shit as worthless pieces of whale shit when you end up costing me cash on taxes because you can't live like normal fucking law abiding productive citizens. I love the argument of how "if you haven't tried it then you should" and the "you can't pass judgement if you haven't done it". I have never stuck my dick in a blender either, but I damn well know that bad things could result from it. It could be the greatest sexual pleasure known to man....but I would rather be safe than find out.

Kil, you worthless piece of shit, wtf do you know about this shit to say that just because we enjoy the use of drugs that we are not tax payers? You fucking piece of shit. I enjoy the hell out of all sorts of substances, some legal some not. Does that make the fact that I work in a pharmacy, and help people survive, while also paying fuckloads of taxes any less right then how you live? You are such a worthless fuck I cannot believe it.

Trek · Post by **Trek** » August 12, 2003, 5:39 am

Heroin is a much better choice, if you can avoid addiction.

noel · Post by **noel** » August 12, 2003, 5:58 am

Rojer wrote:Kil, you worthless piece of shit, wtf do you know about this shit to say that just because we enjoy the use of drugs that we are not tax payers? You fucking piece of shit. I enjoy the hell out of all sorts of substances, some legal some not. Does that make the fact that I work in a pharmacy, and help people survive, while also paying fuckloads of taxes any less right then how you live? You are such a worthless fuck I cannot believe it.

Are you going to cry now?

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » August 12, 2003, 6:20 am

My comments were mostly directed at a piece of shit who dealt drugs on the streets of the US and still somehow had the gall to post anti-American epitephs when he has done more to ruin lives than any 25 soldiers who went to Iraq

Keep spewing this hysterical bullshit, it's fucking hilarious. Ruin lives, lol.

I do, however, reserve the right to label any of you assholes who ram needles into your arms and snort shit as worthless pieces of whale shit when you end up costing me cash on taxes because you can't live like normal fucking law abiding productive citizens

If you've never broken any law ever then please continue. I won't believe you of course. As pretty much everyone here has said, us "druggies" are working professionals who pay our taxes. And, to be frank, I get a little pissed off at having to be at risk of arrest over something I do in the privacy of my own home and hurts no-one.

I love the argument of how "if you haven't tried it then you should" and the "you can't pass judgement if you haven't done it". I have never stuck my dick in a blender either, but I damn well know that bad things could result from it. It could be the greatest sexual pleasure known to man....but I would rather be safe than find out

Yes you're happy to come here and spout your half-arsed bullshit on a topic you obviously have no idea about other than what Hollywood and Bad Boys has shown you.

I think I speak for everyone when I say we're all feeling really sorely pwned about now. . .

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » August 12, 2003, 11:28 am

Let me address this one point at a time.

First, Rojer. You are such an imbecile that your mere posts are an argument against drug use. They should make a poster with you and Xzion holding hands and smoking each other's joint in a daisy filled field. I truly wish you had the capacity to see what drugs do to the average brain.

Xyun, if you don't think that drugs ruin lives, then you are not anywhere near as smart as you think you are. I refuse to get into alchohol being a drug as an issue here. It does ruin lives as well. It definitely can be as destructive as any illegal substance. You are such a piece of work. Someday you might grow up and realize that the world does not revolve around having a good time. It is a delicate balance between having a good time and being productive. If someone put a bullet in your head tonight, what would your legacy be? That you sold drugs and alchohol? Quite nice indeed.

Tanc, if you don't think drugs ruin people's lives, maybe I can point you to a few. The problem is that most of you don't even know that you are burned out losers. You only seem to be around others who are just like you.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » August 12, 2003, 11:35 am

Tanc, if you don't think drugs ruin people's lives, maybe I can point you to a few

Oh they do of course, just like overindulgence in just about anything will. What I find funny is your automatic assumption that it WILL, and that anything short of blind condemnation is a dangerous attitude.

The problem is that most of you don't even know that you are burned out losers. You only seem to be around others who are just like you

Other than what I've written here you know precisely jack and shit about me and the people around me. I can take a look at my life and know I'm FAR from a loser and strangely enough I mix with people who are like me: Successful, intelligent, decent people with good careers and stable, loving families.

Anyway:

Keep spewing this hysterical bullshit, it's fucking hilarious

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » August 12, 2003, 11:43 am

"Other than what I've written here you know precisely jack and shit about me and the people around me. I can take a look at my life and know I'm FAR from a loser and strangely enough I mix with people who are like me: Successful, intelligent, decent people with good careers and stable, loving families. "

Im calling Bullshit on this one!!! Pimps,Ho's and cons are not good careers.

Post by **Sylvus** » August 12, 2003, 11:51 am

Cartalas wrote:Im calling Bullshit on this one!!! Pimps,Ho's and cons are not good careers.

I realize I'm not adding a whole lot here myself, but Jesus-Fucking-Christ are you worthless. I'll give you a nice shiny nickel if you could just shut your goddamn trap for the next 10 active threads.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » August 12, 2003, 12:31 pm

Pimps,Ho's and cons

Nobody I know is related to you. We do donate when we see your kin clutching their special brew and shouting at air demons in the street, however.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » August 12, 2003, 12:44 pm

Someday you might grow up and realize that the world does not revolve around having a good time. It is a delicate balance between having a good time and being productive. If someone put a bullet in your head tonight, what would your legacy be? That you sold drugs and alchohol?

Tell me Kilmoll, why do I need a legacy? Why can I not just live quietly in my corner of the world, raising a family and doing what I want? I work my ass off now and I consider that productive. Sure I would like to make more money but I'm comfortable with who I am and what I do. I have no ambition to leave a legacy, only to be a good influence on those around me that I care about. If I die tomorrow I will be remembered as a free spirit, and believe me, I am not afraid of death. I have seen it way too often in my life to not indulge in every fucking breathe I take on this earth.

You can take the safe path but you won't see me there. I told you not to come at me with this high and mighty bullshit. You talk to me like I'm some fucking kid when I've already been through more strife than you and your entire family will ever see. Fuck you for thinking that your ignorance is somehow wisdom.

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » August 12, 2003, 12:47 pm

Xyun wrote:
My comments were mostly directed at a piece of shit who dealt drugs on the streets of the US and still somehow had the gall to post anti-American epitephs when he has done more to ruin lives than any 25 soldiers who went to Iraq.
You're goddamn right I have the gall to post whatever the fuck I want. It's called freedom, motherfucker, and I exercise it thusly. I am more American than you will ever hope to be you racist hillbilly. I know it gets under your skin that a camel jockey is over here "ruining" people's lives by giving them what they want. No one has died from any of my actions, ever. Can the same be said about your beloved troops?

Even though I'm brown and hairy, I am still the future of this country, and you are the bigotted benighted segregationist past. Hold on to your cretinous values with fervor and fight for them with dear life bitch. They, like the rest of your kind, are a rare endangered species. And no matter how much holier-than-thou KKK-driven 19th century gospel you spew here or anywhere else, you are powerless in your efforts to reverse the evolution of human thought.

I would rather be safe than find out.
I would rather find out than be safe.

the GREAT NEW AMERICAN HAS SPOKEN!1!!!!
The only thing American about you is the soil that clings to your shoes.

As to your claim that your dealing drugs never hurt anyone, that is the most ignorant statement I have heard on these boards. I hope you realize that more murders and other forms of criminal behaviour are directly linked to your harmless dealing of drugs than any other cause your can claim.
You claim that breaking of the law makes you a better American than Kilmoll.

FUCK OFF XYUN

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » August 12, 2003, 12:51 pm

Not only am I more American than Kilmoll, I'm more Canadian than you, you fucking wannabe troll.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » August 12, 2003, 5:09 pm

mcdonalds has hurt more people then all the collective drug dealers in the US by creating several fatasses

its your choice motherfucker, if you want to be healthy and live "life to the fullest....err longest" lock yourself up in a white room with a treadmil and a daily serving of a healthy paste substance that contains all your vitamins and minerals...no sex or confrontation with other people due to this might give you an STD or have you catch an illness...hell im sure that will be pretty "healthy"

you take risks everyday in your life in order to achieve pleasure, what risks you choose to take are yours, weather it be driving fast, having sex with random people, or eating that nice big fat jucy whopper at burger king...doing LSD, alchohol, pot or any other drug is nothing but taking another risk...yet your mind has been programed to see them as "wrong" becouse society tells you they are

everytime someone brings up "breaking the law" i remind them that it is illigal to have oral sex or have sex in any other style then missionary in the state of florida...i want to see some of these people like kilmoll or atokal come down here and find a hot girl trying to take off there pants as they violently move there mouth away from there crotch reminding them that such actions are illigal

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » August 12, 2003, 5:29 pm

half of you are arguing that drugs are ok, and constantly throwing in that reminder that alcohol is a drug (and throwing in that extra fucking h to make it alchohol wuwu!). but of course the sheep think alcohol is ok because the govt says it's legal, so f u to all the sheep.

the other half of you are arguing that drugs are the devil and people who use them don't pay taxes, aren't american, and are corrupting society. so f u to anybody who's used (the government's definition of) drugs.

while it can be entertaining to read you cats argue, 4 pages of the_drug_debate is starting to make my brain bleed.

the only thing that's been said here that's 100% true is that anything, if used/done/smoked/snorted/consumed/shoved up your ass, is done so responsibly, in moderation, and in the privacy of your own home and isn't detrimental to others (meaning you're not shooting up in front of your 3 year old), then it isn't abuse.

and yes, that's a run-on sentence. love, snugglebunniez and FUCKSHITBITCHASS to you all.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » August 12, 2003, 5:31 pm

Sunserae wrote:half of you are arguing that drugs are ok, and constantly throwing in that reminder that alcohol is a drug (and throwing in that extra fucking h to make it alchohol wuwu!). but of course the sheep think alcohol is ok because the govt says it's legal, so f u to all the sheep.

the other half of you are arguing that drugs are the devil and people who use them don't pay taxes, aren't american, and are corrupting society. so f u to anybody who's used (the government's definition of) drugs.

while it can be entertaining to read you cats argue, 4 pages of the_drug_debate is starting to make my brain bleed.

the only thing that's been said here that's 100% true is that anything, if used/done/smoked/snorted/consumed/shoved up your ass, is done so responsibly, in moderation, and in the privacy of your own home and isn't detrimental to others (meaning you're not shooting up in front of your 3 year old), then it isn't abuse.

and yes, that's a run-on sentence. love, snugglebunniez and FUCKSHITBITCHASS to you all.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » October 14, 2006, 2:13 am

This should be archived for posterity

Whilst ambling through the history of this board I came across this old thread and it was quite the eye opener

I suppose I can now give a completely out of date, somewhat irrelevant and jovial conclusion to the whole experience and how it affected me that night.

It definately dwarfed any of the other mental experiments I'd tried, with a mixture of positive and negative results.

Ultimately I am glad I did it but I could never in a million years foreseen quite how powerful it would be or how far it would bring me to the very borders of my conscious reality. It was both beautiful and terrifying, in varying levels at different times and the effect has stuck with me, in a positive way, all these years later

I recommend it

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » October 14, 2006, 2:57 am

wow, i used to be funny. now i'm just cranky all the time.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » October 14, 2006, 3:05 am

It's a good thread to remind people of the slightly less bitter way we all used to get on

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » October 14, 2006, 5:10 am

Nick wrote:It's a good thread to remind people of the slightly less bitter way we all used to get on

Less bitter you say?

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » October 14, 2006, 8:18 am

Heh. I'd avoided this thread completely back in 03 and it was an interesting read to see who stands where on the issue. I'm in the camp of folks that have never and will never use or even try any of that stuff.

I've also never so much as smoked a cigarette either. After 30 years, I can't claim I've ever felt like I missed out on anything yet either.

Drolgin Steingrinder · October 14, 2006, 10:11 am

kyoukan wrote:wow, i used to be funny. now i'm just cranky all the time.

you're doing crank now?

edit: funnier in my head that in BBcode.

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Asheran Mojomaster · Post by **Asheran Mojomaster** » October 18, 2006, 3:49 pm

I still havent tried acid...shit scares me. I want to so bad, but I dont know what I'd do if I had a bad trip. 12 hours of hell doesnt sound fun. I've heard so many good things about it that I will have to try it one day though.

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » October 18, 2006, 4:40 pm

That was a good read. I wonder if I'll ever do acid.

miir · Post by **miir** » October 18, 2006, 7:23 pm

I've tired a lot of drugs.
LSD was one of them.
It was interesting.

Haven't touched any drug in over 7 years.

Arborealus · Post by **Arborealus** » October 18, 2006, 8:36 pm

17 years for illegal drugs for me...They just lost their charm

Though I do drink on occasion and still smoke cigs...

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » October 19, 2006, 7:30 am

22 months cigarette-free here.

I don't feel any better. Just a bit richer.

I drink moderately and infrequently and other than a very occasional tobacco-free hit of weed at parties (like twice a year) I haven't taken anything stronger than ibuprofen in 5+ years. I can't remember exactly cos my memory isn't what it was ;p

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » October 19, 2006, 8:31 am

Arborealus wrote:17 years for illegal drugs for me...They just lost their charm

Most folks move on and find better things to do with their time, eventually. Most of the rampant pro-drug folks from this thread will stop or severly curtail at some point as well if they haven't already. It's not a "sustainable lifestyle" unless you're willing to give up a lot of other things along the way.

24(?) years for me and drugs, 10+ for alchohol. I've better things to do with my time.

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » October 19, 2006, 10:43 am

Asheran Mojomaster wrote:I still havent tried acid...shit scares me. I want to so bad, but I dont know what I'd do if I had a bad trip. 12 hours of hell doesnt sound fun. I've heard so many good things about it that I will have to try it one day though.

If you think you're going to have a bad trip, you're going to have a bad trip. It's how drugs work buddy.

Asheran Mojomaster · October 19, 2006, 12:33 pm

Mr Bacon wrote:
Asheran Mojomaster wrote:I still havent tried acid...shit scares me. I want to so bad, but I dont know what I'd do if I had a bad trip. 12 hours of hell doesnt sound fun. I've heard so many good things about it that I will have to try it one day though.
If you think you're going to have a bad trip, you're going to have a bad trip. It's how drugs work buddy.

Haha, yeah I know how they work. I'll only do it if I am clear headed and feeling completely up for it. Otherwise I'll hold off on acid, shrooms are fun enough.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » October 19, 2006, 12:39 pm

Mr Bacon wrote:
Asheran Mojomaster wrote:I still havent tried acid...shit scares me. I want to so bad, but I dont know what I'd do if I had a bad trip. 12 hours of hell doesnt sound fun. I've heard so many good things about it that I will have to try it one day though.
If you think you're going to have a bad trip, you're going to have a bad trip. It's how drugs work buddy.

That's so true. The first time I did acid I was excited, but also a little scared and my trip ended up being cycles of amazement and fear. The second time, I went into it with a feeling of complete control and it was perfect. I had rules set, like not leaving the house, a couple people around I trusted completely who were very experienced, plenty of movies to watch, candy, smokes, etc. I felt very safe and had an amazing time. I'd be willing to bet those who have had bad trips went into it with a lot of fear or the idea that you don't have any control over what you see.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » October 19, 2006, 12:46 pm

Asheran Mojomaster wrote:
Mr Bacon wrote:
Asheran Mojomaster wrote:I still havent tried acid...shit scares me. I want to so bad, but I dont know what I'd do if I had a bad trip. 12 hours of hell doesnt sound fun. I've heard so many good things about it that I will have to try it one day though.
If you think you're going to have a bad trip, you're going to have a bad trip. It's how drugs work buddy.
Haha, yeah I know how they work. I'll only do it if I am clear headed and feeling completely up for it. Otherwise I'll hold off on acid, shrooms are fun enough.

Yeah, mushrooms are less of a pain anyway. I'd do mushrooms again, but I'm not sure about acid, simply because it makes me depressed for a day or two afterward. I have enough problems with motivation to want to deal with that again.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » October 19, 2006, 2:37 pm

heh, the best thing to do on acid is walk around your neighborhood during the day. its hilarious all the adventures you will get into.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » October 20, 2006, 4:17 am

my, how things change

Since then, I have not done any hardcore drugs, started exercizing, and have become much more productive (/wave kilmoll). It seems I lost a little bit of that angst as well.

However, I still maintain that the war on drugs is a giant farce. The hypocracy therein is exemplified by the massive pharmaceutical companies with the fucking gall to advertise dangerous, harmful, and often lethal and fatal drugs on TV while they spend millions to lobby congress to keep their competitors, be they legal or illegal, completely at bay.

I will concede that dealing drugs was a major mistake in my life and one of my few regrets.