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RIP
Posted: January 26, 2004, 6:37 pm
by cid

28 Aug 2002-26 Jan 2004
I have had this avatar since day one. It has been discussed in numerous polls and topics.
Now the powers at be have determined that she is not fit for this board, so now she must die.
So now im in search of some cute care bares that sprinkl.e fucking happy dust to replace her. Since this is the place for so much love.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 6:44 pm
by Shaerra
Stop trying to get around the new rules, fuckstick. We all know what your "too cool for elementary school" avatar looked like, now it has been deemed inappropriate outside of the NWS forum, so stop acting like a fucking baby and follow the same rules the rest of us follow.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 6:53 pm
by Lohrno
I really don't understand why that is NWS...just a girl in a bikini...
-=Lohrno
Posted: January 26, 2004, 6:53 pm
by cid
Shaerra wrote:Stop trying to get around the new rules, fuckstick. We all know what your "too cool for elementary school" avatar looked like, now it has been deemed inappropriate outside of the NWS forum, so stop acting like a fucking baby and follow the same rules the rest of us follow.
I am not trying to get around the new rules. If the MODS think I am, then they can take whatever action they feel.
Now be a good little bitch and go away. This thread is for grown ups.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:02 pm
by Shaerra
Lohrno wrote:I really don't understand why that is NWS...just a girl in a bikini...
-=Lohrno
What type of enviornment do you imagine the majority of VV works in, that you feel pics of scantily clad women with their legs spread would be deemed appropriate?
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:05 pm
by masteen
I never thought there was a prob with yours, cid. It was really the animated ones of girls squeezing their lucious fake tits or rubbing their shapely buttocks that were the problem. Or so I've been told...
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:17 pm
by Lohrno
Shaerra wrote:
What type of enviornment do you imagine the majority of VV works in, that you feel pics of scantily clad women with their legs spread would be deemed appropriate?
I don't know, but that's only mildly risque. You can see that on broadcast TV...
-=Lohrno
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:22 pm
by Sargeras
Since when did Shaerra become appointed leader of the avatar enforcement movement?
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:25 pm
by Shaerra
Yeah!11!!
u shur told mee off!!11oneuno
huhuhuhuh
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:28 pm
by Arborealus
Sargeras wrote:Since when did Shaerra become appointed leader of the avatar enforcement movement?
3:44pm...about 8 posts ago?...
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:29 pm
by Cartalas
Did IGS buy VV?
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:30 pm
by Pahreyia
... since her well developed sense of self glorification and penchant for being the single most annoying bitch on these boards came together in one glorious copulation into the iron fist of avatar enforcement.
a.k.a. She probably got bored enough to come hang out here and buf the everliving shit out of the rest of us.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:40 pm
by Karae
What unbelievable bullshit.
Xou, Pyrella, I like you both, but you fucking blew it on this one.
To those of you pushing for avatar censorship: Fuck you. Fuck every single one of you. If you are afraid you'll get in trouble for people's avatars, don't read the fucking thing from work. Not like your office wants you reading a fucking EQ message board while you're suppoed to be working anyway.
In closing, fuck censorship.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:44 pm
by Voronwë
i thought it was a pretty reasonable request.
the whole censorship whine sounds like something i'd read in the editorial pages of a high school newspaper.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:44 pm
by Spang
fuck it right in the ear
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:46 pm
by Arborealus
censorship = saying you can't post it
discretion = saying post that sort of thing over there
big difference there
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:47 pm
by noel
I don't see the problem honestly. No one is censored. We've got a whole forum for tits, ass, muff diving, and if you're Aslanna, chicks with dicks. People surf this site from work, have always surfed this site from work, and I think it was a reasonable request given that premise.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:48 pm
by Sargeras
Shaerra wrote:Yeah!11!!
u shur told mee off!!11oneuno
huhuhuhuh
cock got your tongue?
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:49 pm
by Pahreyia
Voronwë wrote:i thought it was a pretty reasonable request.
the whole censorship whine sounds like something i'd read in the editorial pages of a high school newspaper.
It's a reasonable request, so long as people are reasonable in their avatars. Considering size in bytes, size in geometry and content members have been pushing the limits. I think that some casual requests might have solved the problem without resorting to full-blown censorship...
Posted: January 26, 2004, 7:51 pm
by Spankes
This is a privately owned board, you have no first amendment rights here.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:04 pm
by Ebumar
Really, you guys are bitches. I work in a corporate office, my monitor faces my cube entrance. All I do is scroll past the avatars that are risque and re-read what I missed when I get home. If you really want to get technical, you shouldn't even be on this site at work to begin with.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:08 pm
by noel
Ebumar wrote:Really, you guys are bitches. I work in a corporate office, my monitor faces my cube entrance. All I do is scroll past the avatars that are risque and re-read what I missed when I get home. If you really want to get technical, you shouldn't even be on this site at work to begin with.
Just out of curiosity, but... why not?
I get all of my work done in a professional, complete manner. I stay late and arrive early whenever needed, I'm well liked by my peers and my superiors. Please explain to me how (since I seem to post as much as anyone) viewing this site from work is negatively impacting anything?
Not to be rude, but to be frank, I don't think you, sitting at
your desk at
your job are in any position to state opinions about how I, or anyone else conduct themselves at their places of business.
Oh yes, and I work for one of the top networking equipment manufacturers in the country, on-site at one of the top universities (arguably) in the country.
Bear in mind, I didn't complain about the avatars in the first place.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:09 pm
by VariaVespasa
I'm with Cid on this one. Happy fucking FUCKSHITBITCHASS indeed, you bunch of pissante wankers. And you can quote me on that.
Grrrr
Varia
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:10 pm
by Sylvus
Pahreyia wrote:I think that some casual requests might have solved the problem without resorting to full-blown censorship...
What full-blown censorship? You have 2 different things that happened today... there was an argument that people were abusing avatar size in dimensions and in file size, so we made the change to enforce stricter size policy. That isn't censorship, it's streamlining a website so that it loads more efficiently for its users. Secondly, Xou had heard enough complaints about Cid's avatar that he asked him if he'd change it.
There was no censorship.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:12 pm
by Drolgin Steingrinder
Yeah, damn the man! He's keeping our NWS avatars down!
If people weren't able to browse this site at work, we'd have less than half the traffic and half the posts that we have now. I really don't see the problem with moderating pics/avatars and keeping the NWS stuff in the designated forum.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:13 pm
by Karae
Voronwë wrote:i thought it was a pretty reasonable request.
the whole censorship whine sounds like something i'd read in the editorial pages of a high school newspaper.
The whole 'Don't put pictures of scantily clad women here' whine sounds like something I'd read in a church newsletter.
What's your point?
I won't waste my time on a debate of civil rights and liberties. Suffice to say, this board was SUPPOSED to be a place for people to post whatever the hell they want without concern for the overly sensitive pseudo-fascists that ran IGN. This move puts VV 1 step from EQVault and, quite frankly, it pisses me off.
So, whatever, remove my avatar if you deem it inappropriate. I sure as hell won't be.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:14 pm
by Seebs
FYI .. Beaker to my left here is having his Cock sucked and fought after by both Miss Piggy and Robin (kermit's Nephew).
Piggy has a Jack Daniels bottle shoved up her yeasty twat and Robin is fisting Piggy's Corn-hulled spotted asshole.
Gonzo's beakynose is contorted to fit snugly in Robin's ass and Rolff is pulling out his 17th ben-wa ball from Gonzo's blue shitter.
Rolff is having his salad tossed by Animal, Dr. Lipps and Janice. ..
Sure am sorry that you onlt can see beakers head, bacause all that muppet love is happeneing below .. I just can't pan down.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:15 pm
by noel

Seebs!
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:16 pm
by Kguku
If I'm not mistaken, was there not a post originally when the board first started about NWS avatars?
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:18 pm
by Mukyluk
maybe double teh size of the avatar size? 15k seems a little restrictive. i cant evn load a relitivly small black and white photo =(
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:19 pm
by Aslanna
Ebumar wrote:If you really want to get technical, you shouldn't even be on this site at work to begin with.
Why not? I assume you know the Internet use policy at every one of the companies where people work?
This board has a NWS area for a reason. If people can't refrain from posting questionable material (photos/videos) outside of the designated area, or link 300k+ avatars/sigs, NWS or not, then it seems like a rule or two isn't a bad thing. People throwing around 'censorship' in this debate is like Al Sharpton throwing around 'racism' for every issue. It's just a hotbutton meant to stir controversy.
The majority of boards out there that I've seen have similar rules in regards to avatars and sigs.
And for what it's worth, I suggested guidelines be posted before making it a rule. But I can live with either one.
(And no, I'm not the judge of what's questionable and what's not. I have my opinions but that's all they are.)
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:20 pm
by Xouqoa
Karae wrote:This move puts VV 1 step from EQVault and, quite frankly, it pisses me off.
Wait till next week when the full page McDonald's flash pop-up window ads arrive.
Karae wrote:So, whatever, remove my avatar if you deem it inappropriate. I sure as hell won't be.
I don't really think yours is inappropriate. Her tits and ass aren't hanging out all over the place. I like all that as much as the next person, but it's a matter of trying to keep things clean enough for people who are at work (image wise). That's it. No conspiracy.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:22 pm
by Xouqoa
Mukyluk wrote:maybe double teh size of the avatar size? 15k seems a little restrictive. i cant evn load a relitivly small black and white photo =(
Okay, I'll up it to 25k and see if that helps.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:27 pm
by noel
Xouqoa wrote:Mukyluk wrote:maybe double teh size of the avatar size? 15k seems a little restrictive. i cant evn load a relitivly small black and white photo =(
Okay, I'll up it to 25k and see if that helps.
Most of the time converting an avatar pic to a GIF will solve the size problem.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:27 pm
by Zamtuk
stop stealing avatars xou!
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:32 pm
by Karae
I'd much rather see people be given the option to disable avatars than have restrictions put on them. It shouldn't be difficult at all to do that and would piss fewer people off.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:34 pm
by Mukyluk
yea converted it to gif and jpg its right around 25k
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:36 pm
by noel
What are the dimensions in Pixels?
YES THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PM.

Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:37 pm
by Mukyluk
yea converted it to gif and jpg its right around 25k.. 25.8k to be exact =(
might have been the resoultion of the photo when we took it.(4 or 5 years ago)
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:37 pm
by Xouqoa
Karae wrote:I'd much rather see people be given the option to disable avatars than have restrictions put on them. It shouldn't be difficult at all to do that and would piss fewer people off.
That's unfortunately not a built in option for phpBB. There might be a 'hack' for it (open source PHP source code modification) but we've added so much crap to the original code I don't know if it would even work. If someone can find something like that, we might could try it out.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:39 pm
by Drolgin Steingrinder
I agree Karae, the optimal solution would be giving people as many choices as possible, but if that's not an option right now I think this is a decent solution.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:45 pm
by Spankes
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:47 pm
by Mukyluk
239x288
25.8k
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:48 pm
by Sirensa
I just can't believe that all this happened without a POLL!! =(
Personally I don't care, I view NWS stuff at work as I please. And a chick in a bikini is not what I would consider NWS. Even if she is spread-eagled. Half the muscular vein-fetish crap Kwon posts is much worse

Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:48 pm
by noel
Lol.
Change it to no more than like 125x125.
100 pixels max is my personal guideline for length/width on an avatar, but I think Xo allows more than that.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:53 pm
by Mukyluk
yea, working with it now.. trying to crop just the left side with default winXP paint program(the suck)
Posted: January 26, 2004, 8:57 pm
by pyrella
1) When the changes happened I was out buying a cool new backpack
B) I support faster loading pages, and smaller avatars helps that immensely.
d) The NWS board was made and created because everyone asked to keep it to one place (Image wise) except in special circumstances (Imaging/Art since boobies can be artistic and NWS at the same time).
As far as comparisons to IGN, shrug, what can be said. These actions are performed based on what people on the board are saying, and not a third party who dictates rulesets based on a lowest common denominator from many communities. You can still say all the bad words we want - hell, we turn innocent words into 'evil' words. You can still post all the porn you want - in it's proper section. Images can still be linked, avatars can still be used.
Shrug - I avoid all opression/censorship issues as much as I can on an official level, because for the most part the community *is* self policing (and I fucked it up once...whoops). On a personal level I am of the opinion that if you are surfing a board at a place where these type of avatars are considered NWS and you don't have the administrative rights to disable it - you shouldn't be surfing the site. Seriously, I don't want anyone fired for reading this board. Once again that is a personal opinion - I have read the other sides arguments, and can clearly see where they are coming from and respect those opionions, I just don't have to agree with it.
blah blah blah, fuck shit damn, hell ass fart, pussy bitch cword. (Won't see that on IGN at least =P)
The end
P.S. thanks for the board modification suggestions here and in pms/email - we are working on a new board, but planning is being a bitch even without the code to worry about. Honestly, we do try and implement as many things as we can to give the best personal 'experience' to everyone. As can be seen recently with things like birthdays and long term problems like pm's not working, things don't like to play nice with each other always, so we are trying to get everything done with one version at once, instead of a base install, and new mods as they come out written for newer versions. Run on sentences are the win.
Posted: January 26, 2004, 11:42 pm
by Kwonryu DragonFist
LOL! It's a normal girl in a bikini, you see worse than that on the beaches these days!
It is strange though, a girl wearing a bikini is considered sexy and a tubby fella wearing boxers is considered funny!
The tubby fella is revealing more flesh!

<--- NWS?

<--- NWS?

<--- NWS?

<--- NWS?
Posted: January 26, 2004, 11:47 pm
by Akaran_D
not safe for the eyes ><
Posted: January 27, 2004, 12:40 am
by Raistin
If you people cant relize that half dressed women with tits and ass hanging out and feeling eachother up isnt that cool. Then you need help.
WHY must you have that as a avatar? Cant find something else than half nude women? Im sure if some guy who was gay, decided to use 2 guys kissing or grabbing their cocks in spandex,99% of you would bitch to xouqoa. Well all but karae would bitch.
Get over it. You can say or do pretty much everything you want on here besides have half nude women on the general discussions. ITS SUCH A PITTY WERE IGN!! get a fucking grip cry babies.