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A PUZZLE for all of you self-proclaimed gurus out there...

Posted: May 31, 2003, 12:34 am
by Xaem
SOLVED

Check http://www.puzzles.com/PuzzleHelp/Puzzl ... 36.htm#032 for the solution.

So you think you got what it takes to crack an extremely mind-numbing puzzle? Let's see what you can do...

Here it is:

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Okay.. Now here's how it works:

The goal of this puzzle is to draw a LINE through all of the lines in the box WITHOUT going through one line more than once (all of the lines between the red DOTS). You can't draw a line through any of the vertices and every line must be penetrated by the line you draw at least once.

Here's an example:

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Note: This is NOT a solution. Notice how one of the center lines has not been crossed over by the line I drew? The object is to draw a single line and have this NOT happen.

Once again you have to draw a single line through all of the lines between the dots WITHOUT going through one of the lines more than once.

Enjoy =)

Posted: May 31, 2003, 1:22 am
by Dregor Thule
nm

Posted: May 31, 2003, 1:28 am
by Mawafu
ok, that took about 2 minutes...I'll post the solution after some others have had a shot

Posted: May 31, 2003, 2:23 am
by Tinkalot
that was pretty easy about 3 tries and i had it

Posted: May 31, 2003, 12:46 pm
by Chidoro
Yep, 2nd try did it

Posted: May 31, 2003, 1:24 pm
by Xaem
Post your solutions. Interested to see if they're right.

Posted: May 31, 2003, 4:02 pm
by Animalor
This it?

Bleah.. missed that on my review

Posted: May 31, 2003, 4:16 pm
by Mplor
You went through the upper-right line twice, Rask. Sowwy.

I'd like to see a solution to this puzzle. Because there are 3 "squares", each with 5 entry/exit points, I'm ready to conclude it's impossible. However, I know I'm not that smart, so I'm ready for you mensa-types to dazzle me with your brilliant solution for that problem. :)

Posted: May 31, 2003, 4:40 pm
by Waikiki
After busting my brain over this for a good two hours, I came to the same conclusion Mplor did. The 3 figures with 5 sides only have one possible way for a line to pass through all 5 sides, that is with one end outside the figure and the other end inside the figure. This would mean that since there are 3 of these shapes, there would consequently have to be 3 line 'ends', one in each figure.

This was the only conclusion that I came to. I'm not sure that I am 100% correct, there may be a way to solve this puzzle considering each of the 5 sided figures share 2 sides with another 5 sided figure and one side with a 4 sided figure. So, if it is indeed possible, I would love for someone to post the solution. :)

Posted: May 31, 2003, 6:20 pm
by Zamtuk
ROFL! The first say they fave it, the last say its impossible.

Posted: May 31, 2003, 6:55 pm
by Krimson Klaw
I could not do it.

-edit-thought I had it but was wrong, still trying!

-edit wait, he did not say a single continuous line!

Posted: May 31, 2003, 7:35 pm
by Dregor Thule
I'm in the "not possible" camp on this one. Thought I had it, but no.

Posted: May 31, 2003, 11:32 pm
by Xaem
If you solve it, don't just post saying "I solved it". Post the solution. I haven't found one yet.

Posted: June 1, 2003, 12:20 am
by Xzion
2nd try! im a fuckin guru bitch!

Posted: June 1, 2003, 1:06 am
by Zamtuk
post results

Posted: June 1, 2003, 1:10 am
by Xaem
So far nobody has solved it.

Posted: June 1, 2003, 2:06 am
by Kelfain
Waikiki showed me the error of my ways.

Posted: June 1, 2003, 2:08 am
by Dregor Thule
I'd say we have a weiner!

Posted: June 1, 2003, 2:21 am
by Waikiki
theres no line through the middle :)

edit: the top middle vertical line, i mean

Posted: June 1, 2003, 2:28 am
by Xaem
There was a hint given something along the lines of:

You need to go through all the lines in the middle of the figure except for one, which you would have to go through at a later time...

My last try...

Posted: June 1, 2003, 2:52 am
by Kelfain
Well here is a try again, this works if I am allowed to cross my own line.

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Posted: June 1, 2003, 2:59 am
by Waikiki
That hint doesn't really make any sense to me. At a later time?? wth?!

Posted: June 1, 2003, 3:01 am
by Waikiki
The part you have in the middle there would only work if the line doesnt have to be continuous. As you have it drawn, if the line has to be continuous, then you would have to go through a side to the figure more than once.

But, if the line does not have to be continuous then this is correct...I suppose.

edit: In other words, try to trace the line without lifting up your mouse and you will see what I mean.

Posted: June 1, 2003, 3:08 am
by Kelfain
Yep, upon further review I find myself once again agreeing with Waikiki. I give up, time to get some sleep.

Posted: June 1, 2003, 3:19 am
by Owenn
Here's your answer:

http://www.puzzles.com/PuzzleHelp/Puzzl ... 36.htm#032


Can't be solved...

Posted: June 1, 2003, 3:47 am
by Mplor
This story has a moral: The real test of the guru is not to know all the answers, but to be wise enough to know that some answers are unknowable - and to know the difference.

Horray for the gurus! =D>

Posted: June 1, 2003, 4:28 am
by Krimson Klaw
Well I'll be darn, the key word WAS continuous, so I was right afterall. The people that said they solved it sure do look silly right about now. Not to mention that they lose all credibility from here on out in my eyes. Xaem, that was a money shot bro, nice puzzle.

Posted: June 1, 2003, 5:07 am
by emmer
I like this thread because I gain credibility by not even posting on it

Posted: June 1, 2003, 5:07 am
by emmer
oh shit

Posted: June 1, 2003, 8:49 am
by Xzion
im too computer illiterate to know how the fuck to post a picture anywhere with out cut and paste :?
but you go thru the 1st top one, then down the middle, go outside, down the middle till you get to the last one, then go down, do a big loop outside and get to the top one you misssed

Posted: June 1, 2003, 4:07 pm
by Krimson Klaw
emmer wrote:I like this thread because I gain credibility by not even posting on it
You don't gain anything, you simply stay negative where you always were.

Posted: June 1, 2003, 6:08 pm
by Xaem
A teacher showed this to my class. I'm overwhelmed that it is finally solved. Thanks for trying, those of you that did =)

Posted: June 1, 2003, 11:25 pm
by Rasspotari
i´m not sure but have you solved it or not ,, i have , did it a long time ago, but i wont post it if you have already.

Posted: June 1, 2003, 11:38 pm
by Rasspotari
Xzion wrote:im too computer illiterate to know how the fuck to post a picture anywhere with out cut and paste :?
but you go thru the 1st top one, then down the middle, go outside, down the middle till you get to the last one, then go down, do a big loop outside and get to the top one you misssed
and this answer makes no sense :)

Posted: June 1, 2003, 11:39 pm
by Owenn
more people making fools of themselves :lol:

Posted: June 1, 2003, 11:54 pm
by Xaem
Rasspotari wrote:i´m not sure but have you solved it or not ,, i have , did it a long time ago, but i wont post it if you have already.
There's no solution Rass.

Posted: June 2, 2003, 1:14 am
by Rasspotari
there is too and i´ll post it as soon as i can toss the solution to a place where it can be hosted.

Posted: June 2, 2003, 2:30 am
by Xaem

Posted: June 2, 2003, 2:48 am
by Laliana
Xaem wrote:There's no solution Rass.
I'm so glad I didn't try like 5 times... :vv_sing:

Posted: June 2, 2003, 2:57 am
by Toshira
fun puzzle~

Posted: June 2, 2003, 7:30 am
by Shaion
Rasspo, drop by IRC and i'll give you host space. Although i know you are just being a silly icelander whos wrong as usual.

Posted: June 2, 2003, 9:17 am
by Rasspotari
finally

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:P

the trick is to realize that you can go through a line in 2 ways.

Posted: June 2, 2003, 9:46 am
by Dregor Thule
The trick is to read the instructions, smartass.
You can't draw a line through any of the vertices

Posted: June 2, 2003, 10:05 am
by Lexien
Whats the equivalent word in french for vertices?

Posted: June 2, 2003, 11:10 am
by Trek
Lexien wrote:Whats the equivalent word in french for vertices?

Freedom dots?

Posted: June 2, 2003, 11:42 am
by Dregor Thule
I believe it's vertices, actually. Just with some fancy accents that I don't know how to make my keyboard do.

Posted: June 2, 2003, 12:48 pm
by Sirensa
I don't like puzzles that have no solutions.

Though if there were a solution it would have been fun.

Posted: June 2, 2003, 12:52 pm
by Vetiria
sommets

Posted: June 2, 2003, 1:07 pm
by Pilsburry
The main problem here is there are 3 boxes with 5 lines to intersect.

A line through a box usually has 2 intersect parts, the wall in and the wall out.

Now you can take care of 2 of the 3 5-line boxes by having a line begin or end in there....

But that last one is eluding me.

Posted: June 2, 2003, 1:37 pm
by Pilsburry
Hah, fuck you sparty I just looked at the solution.

I guess I was right earlier....I knew what the hard part was and why.