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Round 1
1. LaDainian Tomlinson Atlantic Ass...
2. Steven Jackson Noobtastics
3. Larry Johnson Sleazy Cheese
4. Peyton Manning Flying Wombats
5. Joseph Addai Animale's Te...
6. Frank Gore Paddlers
7. Shaun Alexander Luna Smudge
8. Brian Westbrook Favre Has Go...
9. Laurence Maroney Wile Wombats
10. Reggie Bush Midnyte Rage

Round 2
1. Travis Henry Midnyte Rage
2. Maurice Jones-Drew Wile Wombats
3. Willie Parker Favre Has Go...
4. Rudi Johnson Luna Smudge
5. Brandon Jacobs Paddlers
6. Ronnie Brown Animale's Te...
7. Edgerrin James Flying Wombats
8. Marvin Harrison Sleazy Cheese
9. Willis McGahee Noobtastics
10. Cedric Benson Atlantic Ass...

Round 3
1. Steve Smith Atlantic Ass...
2. Terrell Owens Noobtastics
3. Clinton Portis Sleazy Cheese
4. Chad Johnson Flying Wombats
5. Torry Holt Animale's Te...
6. Larry Fitzgerald Paddlers
7. Carson Palmer Luna Smudge
8. Reggie Wayne Favre Has Go...
9. Marques Colston Wile Wombats
10. Roy Williams Midnyte Rage

Round 4
1. Lee Evans Midnyte Rage
2. T.J. Houshmandzadeh Wile Wombats
3. Anquan Boldin Favre Has Go...
4. Antonio Gates Luna Smudge
5. Drew Brees Paddlers
6. Tom Brady Animale's Te...
7. Jamal Lewis Flying Wombats
8. Matt Hasselbeck Sleazy Cheese
9. Marc Bulger Noobtastics
10. Thomas Jones Atlantic Ass...

Round 5
1. Javon Walker Atlantic Ass...
2. Randy Moss Noobtastics
3. Donald Driver Sleazy Cheese
4. Tony Gonzalez Flying Wombats
5. Andre Johnson Animale's Te...
6. Plaxico Burress Paddlers
7. Reggie Brown Luna Smudge
8. Donovan McNabb Favre Has Go...
9. Matt Leinart Wile Wombats
10. J.P. Losman Midnyte Rage

Round 6
1. Jeremy Shockey Midnyte Rage
2. Chris Cooley Wile Wombats
3. Hines Ward Favre Has Go...
4. Santana Moss Luna Smudge
5. Laveranues Coles Paddlers
6. Calvin Johnson Animale's Te...
7. Joey Galloway Flying Wombats
8. Vernon Davis Sleazy Cheese
9. Braylon Edwards Noobtastics
10. Vince Young Atlantic Ass...

Round 7
1. Jerricho Cotchery Atlantic Ass...
2. Todd Heap Noobtastics
3. Deion Branch Sleazy Cheese
4. Philip Rivers Flying Wombats
5. Marshawn Lynch Animale's Te...
6. Marion Barber III Paddlers
7. Adrian Peterson Luna Smudge
8. Jerious Norwood Favre Has Go...
9. Adam Vinatieri Wile Wombats
10. Nate Kaeding Midnyte Rage

Round 8
1. Chicago Midnyte Rage
2. Baltimore Wile Wombats
3. New England Favre Has Go...
4. Kevin Curtis Luna Smudge
5. Eli Manning Paddlers
6. Alge Crumpler Animale's Te...
7. San Diego Flying Wombats
8. Jake Delhomme Sleazy Cheese
9. Miami Noobtastics
10. Jay Cutler Atlantic Ass...

Round 9
1. Vincent Jackson Atlantic Ass...
2. Shayne Graham Noobtastics
3. Bernard Berrian Sleazy Cheese
4. Devery Henderson Flying Wombats
5. Greg Jennings Animale's Te...
6. Darrell Jackson Paddlers
7. Santonio Holmes Luna Smudge
8. Jon Kitna Favre Has Go...
9. Mark Clayton Wile Wombats
10. Chris Chambers Midnyte Rage

Round 10
1. Alex Smith Midnyte Rage
2. Deuce McAllister Wile Wombats
3. Neil Rackers Favre Has Go...
4. Tony Romo Luna Smudge
5. Carnell Williams Paddlers
6. Kellen Winslow Animale's Te...
7. Michael Turner Flying Wombats
8. Ahman Green Sleazy Cheese
9. Fred Taylor Noobtastics
10. Jason Witten Atlantic Ass...

Round 11
1. D.J. Hackett Atlantic Ass...
2. Terry Glenn Noobtastics
3. Tatum Bell Sleazy Cheese
4. Lance Moore Flying Wombats
5. Dallas Animale's Te...
6. Brandon Marshall Paddlers
7. Ladell Betts Luna Smudge
8. Joe Horn Favre Has Go...
9. Jacksonville Wile Wombats
10. DeAngelo Williams Midnyte Rage

Round 12
1. Anthony Gonzalez Midnyte Rage
2. L.J. Smith Wile Wombats
3. Matt Jones Favre Has Go...
4. Philadelphia Luna Smudge
5. Benjamin Watson Paddlers
6. Kevin Jones Animale's Te...
7. Randy McMichael Flying Wombats
8. Mike Furrey Sleazy Cheese
9. Brett Favre Noobtastics
10. Julius Jones Atlantic Ass...

Round 13
1. Pittsburgh Atlantic Ass...
2. Donte' Stallworth Noobtastics
3. Green Bay Sleazy Cheese
4. Olindo Mare Flying Wombats
5. Stephen Gostkowski Animale's Te...
6. Denver Paddlers
7. Heath Miller Luna Smudge
8. Dallas Clark Favre Has Go...
9. Ben Roethlisberger Wile Wombats
10. Isaac Bruce Midnyte Rage

Round 14
1. Seattle Midnyte Rage
2. Muhsin Muhammad Wile Wombats
3. Kurt Warner Favre Has Go...
4. Jerry Porter Luna Smudge
5. Carolina Paddlers
6. Joey Harrington Animale's Te...
7. Michael Clayton Flying Wombats
8. Greg Olsen Sleazy Cheese
9. Robbie Gould Noobtastics
10. Jeff Wilkins Atlantic Ass...

Round 15
1. Minnesota Atlantic Ass...
2. Owen Daniels Noobtastics
3. Ryan Longwell Sleazy Cheese
4. Jason Elam Flying Wombats
5. Daunte Culpepper Animale's Te...
6. Josh Brown Paddlers
7. David Akers Luna Smudge
8. David Boston Favre Has Go...
9. Ronald Curry Wile Wombats
10. Tony Scheffler Midnyte Rage

I wish I could trade Favre for...Vick...lol

As much as people complain about Favre they don't really realize that he's had 3000 yard seasons for the last 15 years. Also he is almost always over 20 TD passes. Sure he throws interceptions but he's still worth a lot of points overall.

Not tooting the fanboi horn here either Winnow! Just the facts.

Bubba Grizz wrote:As much as people complain about Favre they don't really realize that he's had 3000 yard seasons for the last 15 years. Also he is almost always over 20 TD passes. Sure he throws interceptions but he's still worth a lot of points overall.

Not tooting the fanboi horn here either Winnow! Just the facts.

yeah, but I was slapped with Vick last year which is why I brought it up.

Bubba Grizz wrote:As much as people complain about Favre they don't really realize that he's had 3000 yard seasons for the last 15 years. Also he is almost always over 20 TD passes. Sure he throws interceptions but he's still worth a lot of points overall.

Not tooting the fanboi horn here either Winnow! Just the facts.

I picked up Favre in the 12th round of a 12 team league this weekend so I'm not completely anti Favre. That particular league doesn't get penalized for interceptions and I know that Favre will always play, even if he has to use a walker to get out on the field so I know I'll have an active backup for my QB during the bye week. Favre knows what's best for Farve and that's playing no matter what, heaving long bombs that are up for grabs. His receivers are bound to catch a few of them!

Wow....Winslow slipped to the 10th round again. Don't you people learn?

Thank you, kilmoll. I have been getting chastised for taking him in the 5th round in both the drafts I was in. He will do as good, if not better, than Antonio Gates, a perennial third rounder. It's borderline absurd to let him slip that far, especially in yardage leagues.

Zamtuk: I'll make an avatar bet with you. Kellen Winslow doesn't score more than 85% of the fantasy points of Antonio Gates. Using VV NFC rules.

How about a Vernon Davis vs Kellen Winslow fantasy point bet?

rofl ok. too bad i don't know you personally, or i'd put cash on it.

name the terms.

Is that to me?

If it is, Winslow scoring 85% of Gates' fantasy points, or better, by NFC VV rules wins for you. Loser wears sports related avatar of other's choice for a month.

I'm undefeated in avatar sports bets on this board. Bring it on!The only one I have going right now is Pher AZ vs SF best record bet.

didn't see your post sueven (the fact that my avatar red x's me half the time, makes our posts look too similar). but yeah, youre both on.

I think Zam will win this one. Winslow in the 5th is too early in my mind, but he still is the best offensive weapon for a team with QB's that can throw short check downs and have no real vertical passing or running game. Had I been drafting, he would have been the first tight end I looked for and it would have been round 6-8 depending on how well I had done with my RB's and receivers.

The other true bonus for Winslow over Gates is that the Browns are a non-playoff team and he will be playing all year vs being shut down to avoid injury as Gates may be. My entire draft strategy revolves around finding the best players from teams that will be competing for Wild Cards or will be an 8-8 type team that plays a lot of porous defenses.

Don't forget that Winslow is a self-proclaimed soldier, shit, he's promoted himself to Lieutenant now!

I stay the fuck away from players on teams like Cleveland. Their offense sucks balls until proven otherwise, and Winslow in particular has proven himself a fragile dumbass for two of his previous three NFL seasons.

Winslow is pretty low on my TE list as well. I think I have him at most the 6th best TE. I picked Gates early last year in one of my leagues, third round I believe. He wasn't worth it when I look back at it. I always look for a WR1 before I look at TEs. If there are still top tier WRs available then I will take one of them over a top tier TE. WRs are really plentiful this year. You can get top notch talent into the 4th round pretty easily.

On those Tight End bets:

There are two. Zamtuk is betting on Kellen Winslow. One of them is against me, for 85% of Gates' production. The other one is against Winnow, Winslow v. Vernon Davis, straight up.

So far:

Antonio Gates: 59.85
Kellen Winslow: 38.55 (64% of Gates)
Vernon Davis: 12.15

So I'm beating Zamtuk, and Zamtuk is beating Winnow.

Good call on Winslow, he looks good so far this year.

Vernon Davis has been a bust. Unless something freakish happens, I'll lose my first avatar bet!

Winslow is an injury or off field problem waiting to happen! Cross your fingers!

Winnow wrote:Vernon Davis has been a bust. Unless something freakish happens, I'll lose my first avatar bet!

Winslow is an injury or off field problem waiting to happen! Cross your fingers!

He had a meeting last week to voice his frustrations of his lack of a part in the offense. Of course then he dropped a few passes in the game on sunday. He'll have a break out game soon!

It won't be real soon....the Stillers busted his whiny ass right out of action for at least 2 games.