Remove the ban on Cartalas and

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 24, 2008, 6:43 pm

He should be unbanned. If he already is unbanned, let it be known. I doubt he'd even post and highly doubt he reads the board but he might jump back in the sports forum from time to time since he seemed most interested in that.

Aardor · Post by **Aardor** » March 24, 2008, 7:02 pm

Winnow wrote:He should be unbanned. If he already is unbanned, let it be known. I doubt he'd even post and highly doubt he reads the board but he might jump back in the sports forum from time to time since he seemed most interested in that.

Respond to my posts earlier, please. He should be unbanned if he agrees to follow the rules.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » March 24, 2008, 7:18 pm

That list of quotes doesn't offend me. Things only get bad when someone gets attacked. It happened last month (nick/funk/mid), it will probably happen again.

If you ask me, that whole Kylere/Dregor/fat thing got blown way out of proportion. You know what a wise-ass does when you complain about something, right? He does it more!

oh, and we should change the tagline. We need drama.

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » March 24, 2008, 7:34 pm

Cart and I haven't talked about VV in ages. I just thought it would be funny to stir up some shit here. I find it delightfully ironic the professed need for rules here. What a bunch of hypocrites.

Aardor · Post by **Aardor** » March 24, 2008, 7:35 pm

Fash wrote:That list of quotes doesn't offend me. Things only get bad when someone gets attacked. It happened last month (nick/funk/mid), it will probably happen again.

If you ask me, that whole Kylere/Dregor/fat thing got blown way out of proportion. You know what a wise-ass does when you complain about something, right? He does it more!

oh, and we should change the tagline. We need drama.

I didn't paste that to show that he offended anyone. I pasted it to show (as did Sylvus) that he didn't provide any useful content (besides the phoenix sun thread, as noted), and all of his posts broke the either the trolling or personal attacks rule. And clearly they did offend some people, because at least 5 of those people PMed Cart about it.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 24, 2008, 7:47 pm

Aardor wrote: And clearly they did offend some people, because at least 5 of those people PMed Cart about it.

And some of those names clearly had no business complaining about someone else. At least one person identified themself.

I also thought fat and pedophile references were excempt from the rules considering how much they've been used by the moderators on this board. I guess it only matters which side of the fence you sit as to whether you're being insulted or not. Some people got away with murder.

The Anti RL Flame (ARLF) protection measures were abused by more than Cart. Cart happened not to be part of the in crowd so got the hammer while kyoukan went to town on the RL flames with no penalties.

Anyway, I don't care what others have done, the point is that Cart shouldn't be banned.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » March 24, 2008, 7:50 pm

I'm sure Cart has a hobby like painting figures or playing guitar hero games obsessively to keep him busy while away from VV. Funny to hear some people on this board attempting to point out others as having no life.

... says the assclown with an average of 8 posts per day since this board's inception. Let me know if your hobbies progress beyond pirating things on the internet and cyberhumping women in online games once the trust fund teet gets knocked out of your mouth or you get married (assuming you are capable of marrying something other than your own reflection) and then we can talk about who has the more fulfilling existance. When I speak about Cart having a hollow vapid existance, its because I lived in the northern midwest and met a hundred douchebag redneck dilweeds exactly like him. The only thing that sets Cart apart from most of them is that he discovered the internet and used its anonymous nature to spew shit that would have gotten his ass beat on a daily basis in the high school environment that his mind obviously never grew out of. He thought he could shit over everyone elses fun constantly without any consequences, and for a long time he was able to do just that. Eventually, his bullshit caught up to him and he couldn't even manage a basic level of courtesy that even you or Nick manage to adhere to. End result: adios asshole.

Fact remains that you imbeciles keep crying for his return and can't even grasp the fact that his absence benefits your little head in the sand gang, if only by making your group seem collectively less stupid. I will wade through mountains of Midnytes racist bullshit, your self indulgent ego stroke sessions, Nick's psychotic ramblings, or just about anything else here. I refuse to read thread after thread where every other post is some monosylabic mindless bullshit from some dipshit who would never say the same shit to your face, but happily takes a steaming shit over everyone elses conversation. You may pull much of the same shit, Winnow, but at least you confine the bulk of it to the Console forum and you have a descent grasp of grammer. I would not hesitate to ever tell you what a douche I think you are, even to your face in a crowded room, but I would take a hundred Winnows over one Cartalas any day of the fucking week.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » March 24, 2008, 7:58 pm

Metanis wrote:Cart and I haven't talked about VV in ages. I just thought it would be funny to stir up some shit here. I find it delightfully ironic the professed need for rules here. What a bunch of hypocrites.

It's ok Met, we know you're too senile to recall there was always two rules. Would you like a nice cup of warm milk?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 24, 2008, 8:24 pm

Jice Virago wrote:
I'm sure Cart has a hobby like painting figures or playing guitar hero games obsessively to keep him busy while away from VV. Funny to hear some people on this board attempting to point out others as having no life.
... says the assclown with an average of 8 posts per day since this board's inception.

And when was the last time I commented about anyone else's lifestyle besides yours since you're one of those who feels the need to flame what others do in their spare time? Get the point? I don't stereotype or criticize hobbies and lifestyles others choose for themselves. Try not being a dick about how others choose to entertain themselves. What the fuck does it matter to you besides resulting in you getting smacked back with flames about your own interests.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » March 24, 2008, 8:26 pm

Sweet babyjesus, Jice.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 24, 2008, 8:47 pm

I was referring to this in my last post:

Winnow wrote:
Jice Virago wrote: Maybe you are into other aspects of the game (giving the benefit of the doubt here) but the bulk of the people are not. Its a nonstop Vampire Fanboi Furry shemale love fest. At least, thats what 90% of your screenshots and witness acounts from other people suggest.
Sorry man, wish I could enjoy painting little metal figures but that seems as boring as flinging shit on a wall to me so I cant take on your hobby as a replacement.

Social misfits? What's normal these days? I don't think I want to be normal. I'd probably kill myself out of boredom.

You seem to like to stereotype so I'll stereotype you into the category of the unimaginative and narrow minded. Anything you do online for entertainment is a mental stimulant. Any game can break down into the "emo orgy" you refer to. Just look at games like WoW and you'll find the sex fiends...those people can probably be considered more normal that the fucking geeks that are just out to level a character. Ding! Who the fuck cares? Its the people you play with that make the difference. I hope to whatever god you worship that you're not concerned with what other people find enjoyable online. If someone wants to whack it 24/7 watching porn and has the time to do so, more power to them.

You leveled to 60 and killed 100,000 monsters. Someone in SL spent that time creating scripts, animations, furniture, buildings, and the rest of the time interacting with others in whatever way they chose to...So you think your 1,000 hours spent killing mobs was more stimulating and productive than the other persons? Great. Perhaps a brain scan will tell us one day which person tapped more creativity during those hours spent online.

You might say it's the challenge of defeating a mob...sure, and I might say you need something laid out for you to do because you can't dream something up yourself in an enviroment that gives you the tools to be as creative as you want.

I don't think you have any justification at all to criticise Second Life unless you're just bashing all online time spent on MMORPGs in general. Don't get me wrong, some of the best times I had were spent with friends exploring new zones in EverQuest...but really it was mostly fun because of the people I was with...it's equally fun for me to run around SL and see what others have dreamt up as the entire world is player built, animated and scripted. Eventually the world will get boring, just as Everquest did because it was tapped out or repetitive but the people are still what make any game worth playing for an extended period of time. SL is basically a deluxe version of a MOO. Nothing is going to fall in your lap, you need to use your imagination and go get it. There's your challenge.

and this:

Winnow wrote:
Jice Virago wrote:Yes, I paint metal warhammer figures. Yes I killed a ton of monsters to get to level 60 and grinded AA. I did not, however, do anything in the game that I would be ashamed of describing any or all of my activities to friends and family members.
Who cares what EVERY person is doing in a game? Take a look at the real world? Are you interested in 90 percent of the people there or do you seek out the ones that match your interests? It's no different in a game.

Are you sexually repressed or something? You seem a little over sensitive to people expressing themselves in any way other than physical contact.

I've done nothing in a game that I'm ashamed of. If I popped a champagn bottle and shoved it up Kwons ass in SL, I still wouldn't be ashamed of it. Dude, lighten up and enjoy yourself instead of worrying about what's acceptable. As it happens, many people have extremely active imaginations and that includes wanting to do things using their minds that they have absolutely no desire to do in real life. You like shooting people in FPS games? It's fun but you aren't going to do it in real life. It's the same with sexual situations. Like it or not, the imagination blows away reality nine times out of ten. As another example, I love documentaries that take me into the heart of a jungle or on a safari but I have no desire whatsoever to actually do those things in real life (bugs, smells, travelling, hassles that I don't want to deal with) It's a personal choice.

If you're overly concerned with my sex life, I can assure you I've had plenty of your standard couple sex in real life, unless only the missionary position is acceptable to you then I'm shit out of luck. Happy now? Mind if I go fuck a furry for fun in a game that may or may not be a 300 pound man like you in real life or is it going to bother you? I'm taking a wild guess that I've had sex with more women in real life than you. Get with the program! Why should it matter to you what I choose to do (as long as its legal)? If I can out earn you, out sex you, jump higher, and post a higher IQ than you in real life, is it OK if I have my fun online? Is there some test I was supposed to take? If a 90 year old lady can roleplay something that I find interesting in a game, that's fine by me.

Why do you think people are always "preying" on someone else in a game? Ever think that some just enjoy expressing themselves with no strings attached? Probably not. That little orc would look better with a green hat than yellow I think.

In online games I play, imagination is all I'm looking for from the other players.

I must be a social misfit! The people from fan faire can tell you that.

Markulas · Post by **Markulas** » March 24, 2008, 8:48 pm

Umm everyone on this board played eq at one point in their life.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » March 24, 2008, 8:54 pm

What's hilarious is that peple are so starved for drama they'll have the same pointless debate... for the third fucking time.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » March 24, 2008, 9:13 pm

Aslanna wrote:What's hilarious is that peple are so starved for drama they'll have the same pointless debate... for the third fucking time.

Third? This has to be at least the 10th.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » March 24, 2008, 9:22 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:
Aslanna wrote:What's hilarious is that peple are so starved for drama they'll have the same pointless debate... for the third fucking time.
Third? This has to be at least the 10th.

True. But I meant this is the third 'major' thread specifically about it. The other two already linked above.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » March 24, 2008, 9:45 pm

Markulas wrote:Umm everyone on this board played eq at one point in their life.

Yeah but not everyone used it as a cyber dating service, to say nothing of playing Second Life aka Furry Emo Paradise. While I would have no issue explaining to family and friends the concept of an MMORPG or even how I met my wife through the game, I can't imagine trying to explain to anyone how I spent hours in cyber jack off sessions or making a leather wearing furry wannabe avatar complete with virtual cyber fuck palace just so I could rub one out. Mind you, I discuss my porn downloading habits in front of my friends and family and even I would be embarressed if I had to explain that kind of shit, if I were involved in it.

That was the point I was making in the original post that Winnow cherry picked the quotes from to try and make me look reactionary. I am not sure how painting metal figures/terrain scapes is a more embaressing hobby than typing to bored housewives in EQ/SL for a stroke session, but apparently in Winnow's mind it is. I guess it hit a little too close to home for him.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » March 24, 2008, 9:48 pm

Aslanna wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:
Aslanna wrote:What's hilarious is that peple are so starved for drama they'll have the same pointless debate... for the third fucking time.
Third? This has to be at least the 10th.
True. But I meant this is the third 'major' thread specifically about it. The other two already linked above.

I think he might be actually counting some of the threads they gayed up with their "Free Cartalas!!!111!1!1" spam back when the ban was first handed out. If thats the case, then there have been more than two dozen threads where this shit has been brought up.

Incidentally, this is really not a current even. While it could arguably go into the Retard Forum, it should, at the very least, get moved to General, since its neither a major event nor current.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » March 24, 2008, 9:59 pm

Aardor wrote: I pasted it to show (as did Sylvus) that he didn't provide any useful content

Who are you to deem what is useful? That very thinking is what folks like myself rail against everyday. Stop trying to be thought police. Stop being so easily offended. If you don't like what you're reading, SCROLL THE FUCKING WHEEL ON YOUR MOUSE.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » March 24, 2008, 10:16 pm

Uh huh. And I'm sure if you were watching a movie at the theatre with your kids and every 5 minutes someone stood up 3 rows back and yelled out "Fuck whitey in the ass!", you'd support his right to free speech too, AND ask to have him brought back into the theatre after telling the usher "Fuck yeah, go ahead and throw me out, bitch!".

I'd be happy for Cart to come back if ignore worked on all posts and quotes, so in the analogy above I had a closed link loop which filtered out the insane ramblings of the theatre goer from hell.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » March 24, 2008, 10:18 pm

Winnow wrote:I don't think you have any justification at all to criticise Second Life unless you're just bashing all online time spent on MMORPGs in general.

I have nothing to say here other than to announce that I would like to put myself on the record as bashing all online time spent on MMORPG's in general.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 24, 2008, 10:39 pm

Jice Virago wrote: That was the point I was making in the original post that Winnow cherry picked the quotes from to try and make me look reactionary. I am not sure how painting metal figures/terrain scapes is a more embaressing hobby than typing to bored housewives in EQ/SL for a stroke session, but apparently in Winnow's mind it is.

The point isn't how you rate your boring hobby on the embarrassing activity scale vs some other hobby. You seem to worry too much about how something might embarrass you...a little closed minded as I detailed in the quoted posts above. You must have struggled with the decision to paint orcs for some time before determining it wouldn't be embarrassing for your family.

Daboohk · Post by **Daboohk** » March 25, 2008, 12:20 am

Jice Virago wrote:...and you have a descent grasp of grammer.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » March 25, 2008, 1:07 am

Zaelath wrote:Uh huh. And I'm sure if you were watching a movie at the theatre with your kids and every 5 minutes someone stood up 3 rows back and yelled out "Fuck whitey in the ass!", you'd support his right to free speech too, AND ask to have him brought back into the theatre after telling the usher "Fuck yeah, go ahead and throw me out, bitch!".

I'd be happy for Cart to come back if ignore worked on all posts and quotes, so in the analogy above I had a closed link loop which filtered out the insane ramblings of the theatre goer from hell.

LOL.....WHAT???

I don't let my kids read VV with me. What a horrid use of an analogy.

HAHAHA

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » March 25, 2008, 2:52 am

Ah, so your precious snowflakes cancel out the "right to free speech" in your constitution. I see.

Ok, same question, without the kids.

OMG, that's so different!

HAHAHA

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » March 25, 2008, 4:38 am

The point of the matter, which most of you bozos who support the banning will never admit to or address, is that despite the FACT that Cart is an ignorant asshole, despite the fact that he had little to nothing to contribute to anything, despite all this, banning cart, or supporting the banning, brings out the true coward in you. The pussy who can dish it out but can't take it. The pussy who is actually offended by ignorant one-liners. The pussy who is overtly hypocritical about how the rules apply and to whom they apply because they are too much of a fucking pussy to tolerate a fucking anonymous poster on a fucking internet forum. That is the bottom fucking line. It has nothing to do with Cart in my mind, and has everything to do with all you fucking gaping oozing cowardly hypocritical pussies. It's fucking pathetic. Just fucking sad when a person like cartalas actually has such influence over your thoughts. It is just fucking sad.

To this day, no legitimate reason has been given for his banning. Every reason given for his banning thus far has been committed by several other people on this forum, but he is the only one who has been a regular member and was banned. That is cowardice incarnate. It is the epitome of hypocrisy. The REAL reason he was banned is that most people didn't like him. Just come out and fucking admit that you wanted the guy banned because he got under your oh so sensitive skin and your vag couldn't take it. Don't hide behind the veil of "rules" or the other b.s. you are spewing.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » March 25, 2008, 4:43 am

Xyun wrote:The point of the matter, which most of you bozos who support the banning will never admit to or address, is that despite the FACT that Cart is an ignorant asshole, despite the fact that he had little to nothing to contribute to anything, despite all this, banning cart, or supporting the banning, brings out the true coward in you. The pussy who can dish it out but can't take it. The pussy who is actually offended by ignorant one-liners. The pussy who is overtly hypocritical about how the rules apply and to whom they apply because they are too much of a fucking pussy to tolerate a fucking anonymous poster on a fucking internet forum. That is the bottom fucking line. It has nothing to do with Cart in my mind, and has everything to do with all you fucking gaping oozing cowardly hypocritical pussies. It's fucking pathetic. Just fucking sad when a person like cartalas actually has such influence over your thoughts. It is just fucking sad.

To this day, no legitimate reason has been given for his banning. Every reason given for his banning thus far has been committed by several other people on this forum, but he is the only one who has been a regular member and was banned. That is cowardice incarnate. It is the epitome of hypocrisy.

You give him entirely too much credit. I never complained and his posts sure the fuck never offended me. But fuck yeah I'm glad he's gone. Call me what you want I don't care. I have no problem living with myself and sleeping at night regardless of what any "anonymous poster on a fucking internet forum" thinks about me.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » March 25, 2008, 5:01 am

I don't give 2 shits about cart. I'm just curious how many fucking people are willing to compromise their own integrity for instant gratification (without losing any sleep). I mean I always knew there was a fuckton of you out there, I just rarely get to see true cowardice exposed so vividly. It's quite entertaining. Sweet dreams.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » March 25, 2008, 5:45 am

Yeah, thanks. It is getting pretty late. Time to go to bed and catch some sound sleep.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 25, 2008, 9:25 am

Symbolically, this board was created to throw away the oppressive regime of HUGSANDSNUGGLES bullshit that was going on over at IGN, and no one should really ever have been banned. I totally get this point.

I also get the point that a xenophobic, racist, sexist bigot who's calling every woman poster a cunting assfuck whore for absolutely no reason, never contributes anything other than "you cunt fuck you eat my cum you whore" is about as valid a poster here as excrement is a valid ingredient in cake.

For fuck sake, its not like anyone would give even the slightest fuck about Cartalas being unbanned if he had ever contributed anything than bigoted sexist one liners. Anyone defending that shit here needs to grow a fucking brain and stop being such a terribly excruciating little attention whore.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » March 25, 2008, 10:00 am

We're not defended what he says, just his right to say it.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 25, 2008, 10:43 am

This is an internet forum that has a couple of rules that posters are asked to abide by.
There is no free speech here.
This is not the USA.

Cartalas never had any rights to say anything on this forum.
He had a privilege to post here so long as he respected the one or two rules of the forum.

He chose to ignore those rules for years even after being asked by the moderators countless times to tone it down or stop.

He asked to be banned.
He got what he asked for.

There is nothing more to it.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » March 25, 2008, 11:30 am

One point of clarity. I don't think he ASKED to be banned so much as he DARED Sylvus to ban him calling it mod abuse whatever. Sylvus called his bluff (as would I have in Sylvus' shoes).

I recall one time I wanted my account here deleted because I was fed up over some nothing issue (I think Kyo stepped on my e-peen over something minor and I was pissed off), but I got over it.

I don't really care either way. Leave him banned or un-ban him. If it means less sissy slapfights a la Nick vs Mid/Funk, so much the better.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 25, 2008, 12:19 pm

So the theory goes that if for example the Westboro baptist church descended on this board and began shitting up every single thread with their nonsense, banning them would be a bad idea, because it simply doesn't matter if the quality of discourse is terrible, just so long as people have absolute freedom of speech here?

Also, Ashur, if you wanted to take a more active role, instead of sitting on the sidelines crying, you're more than welcome.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » March 25, 2008, 1:05 pm

Banning Baptists is a great idea!

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » March 25, 2008, 1:37 pm

Cowardice has zero to do with it, Xyun. He fucked up every single discussion on the board for months straight. The RL pic bashing really had nothing to do with it, for me. Honestly, I think that rule is stupid and gives certain people a window to bait others, but I understand the reasoning behind it and I generally respect it, as does just about everyone else here. It really is the constant spam of bullshit on threads all over the forum that made me happy to see him go. Its like going to the park and there is some retarded kid waving his penis around at everyone because he thinks he can get away with it. It might not be his fault because he is retarded, but that doesn't make me a coward for not wanting to see that shit every time I go to the park. It gave me a fucking migrane every time I logged on to this board seeing his name on the most rescent post of half the threads (and all the CE threads) every god damn time, knowing that 99% of all those posts were "You cunt!", "Fucking Liberalz!", or "Go back to Taco Bell!". Fuck him and good riddence.

It doesn't exactly shock me that Met, Funk, and Mid can't see the difference between themselves and Cart (I know Winnow is deliberately ignoring that point for his own personal gain, per normal), but it does disappoint me. The drop in Mysogeny alone in the CE thread has been worth banning him, as I see it.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 25, 2008, 2:01 pm

The drop in Mysogeny alone in the CE thread has been worth banning him, as I see it.

The grammatical abortions (but sadly not the spelling errors) have also dropped.

Aardor · Post by **Aardor** » March 25, 2008, 2:07 pm

miir wrote:
The drop in Mysogeny alone in the CE thread has been worth banning him, as I see it.
The grammatical abortions (but sadly not the spelling errors) have also dropped.

Doesn't the board have a spell checker? My posts would contain massive spelling errors if it did not!

Fash · Post by **Fash** » March 25, 2008, 2:08 pm

Don't think so... but your browser does, thankfully.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » March 25, 2008, 3:06 pm

Jice Virago wrote:Cowardice has zero to do with it, Xyun. He fucked up every single discussion on the board for months straight. The RL pic bashing really had nothing to do with it, for me. Honestly, I think that rule is stupid and gives certain people a window to bait others, but I understand the reasoning behind it and I generally respect it, as does just about everyone else here. It really is the constant spam of bullshit on threads all over the forum that made me happy to see him go. Its like going to the park and there is some retarded kid waving his penis around at everyone because he thinks he can get away with it. It might not be his fault because he is retarded, but that doesn't make me a coward for not wanting to see that shit every time I go to the park. It gave me a fucking migrane every time I logged on to this board seeing his name on the most rescent post of half the threads (and all the CE threads) every god damn time, knowing that 99% of all those posts were "You cunt!", "Fucking Liberalz!", or "Go back to Taco Bell!". Fuck him and good riddence.

It doesn't exactly shock me that Met, Funk, and Mid can't see the difference between themselves and Cart (I know Winnow is deliberately ignoring that point for his own personal gain, per normal), but it does disappoint me. The drop in Mysogeny alone in the CE thread has been worth banning him, as I see it.

What the fuck are you talking about? Do you even know? At what point have I compared myself to Cart? Just because he didn't bother me like he obviously bothered so many of you and I have exchanged a few emails with him means I am making some kind of comparison?

Maybe you should understand what you are talking about instead of resorting to the usual LOLMIDANDFUNK bullshit by default, asshole.

The only thing I have ever really said related to him is that many of you have offended me personally about 500 times as much as cart ever did, and you are all still here. I don't consider his "ban me then" comment to be asking to be banned, he was challenging sylvus who to be honest could have had a better approach to the situation that might have had more favorable results for everyone.

Explain to me how that leads you to believe that I think me and cart are twin brothers separated at birth?

Aardor · Post by **Aardor** » March 25, 2008, 3:06 pm

Fash wrote:Don't think so... but your browser does, thankfully.

Ohhh...figured it was a PhpBB thing. Makes sense though, since phpbb doens't seem to be in the dictionary.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » March 25, 2008, 3:43 pm

Nick wrote:Also, Ashur, if you wanted to take a more active role, instead of sitting on the sidelines crying, you're more than welcome.

Um, what? I have like 1400 posts, at what point did that become "not participating"?

masteen · Post by **masteen** » March 25, 2008, 4:43 pm

Ashur wrote:
Nick wrote:Also, Ashur, if you wanted to take a more active role, instead of sitting on the sidelines crying, you're more than welcome.
Um, what? I have like 1400 posts, at what point did that become "not participating"?

That's less than a post/day! But even at that laconic pace, you still added more content than Cart did.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » March 25, 2008, 6:10 pm

Jice Virago wrote:Cowardice has zero to do with it, Xyun. He fucked up every single discussion on the board for months straight. The RL pic bashing really had nothing to do with it, for me. Honestly, I think that rule is stupid and gives certain people a window to bait others, but I understand the reasoning behind it and I generally respect it, as does just about everyone else here. It really is the constant spam of bullshit on threads all over the forum that made me happy to see him go. Its like going to the park and there is some retarded kid waving his penis around at everyone because he thinks he can get away with it. It might not be his fault because he is retarded, but that doesn't make me a coward for not wanting to see that shit every time I go to the park. It gave me a fucking migrane every time I logged on to this board seeing his name on the most rescent post of half the threads (and all the CE threads) every god damn time, knowing that 99% of all those posts were "You cunt!", "Fucking Liberalz!", or "Go back to Taco Bell!". Fuck him and good riddence.

It doesn't exactly shock me that Met, Funk, and Mid can't see the difference between themselves and Cart (I know Winnow is deliberately ignoring that point for his own personal gain, per normal), but it does disappoint me. The drop in Mysogeny alone in the CE thread has been worth banning him, as I see it.

Some people may actually enjoy seeing the retarded kid at the park. Some people might go to the park precisely to see the retarded kid. Point being, those who are offended have the choice of not going to the park. In this matter, the retarded kid was banned and those of us who like to watch retarded kids being retarded are not happy.

I don't generally disagree with your position about his nonsensical bullshit. The fact is he made me laugh on more than one instance. A few times I laughed so hard (either at him or with him) that I sent him PMs saying as much. What ruins a thread for you may be what makes a thread worth reading twice for me. Your pariah may be my class clown or vice versa. Had Noel been banned, I would have rejoiced and you wouldn't have heard a peep out of me.

As far as cowardice goes, take a look at this post and tell me there is no cowardice in the argument

This is an internet forum that has a couple of rules that posters are asked to abide by.
There is no free speech here.
This is not the USA.

Cartalas never had any rights to say anything on this forum.
He had a privilege to post here so long as he respected the one or two rules of the forum.

He chose to ignore those rules for years even after being asked by the moderators countless times to tone it down or stop.

He asked to be banned.
He got what he asked for.

There is nothing more to it.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 25, 2008, 6:36 pm

Xyun wrote: I don't generally disagree with your position about his nonsensical bullshit. The fact is he made me laugh on more than one instance. A few times I laughed so hard (either at him or with him) that I sent him PMs saying as much. What ruins a thread for you may be what makes a thread worth reading twice for me. Your pariah may be my class clown or vice versa.

I've laughed at several of Cart's posts in the past but his jokes were directed at the "special" cliqué protected people. Again, it all depends on who you are and how you relate to these "special" people as to whether there's humor to be had or whether a few PMs are sent to sway a mod's actions regarding a troublesome member.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » March 25, 2008, 6:55 pm

My post count is weak, must catch Ashur!

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » March 25, 2008, 6:55 pm

Bring back the VVs!!!!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 25, 2008, 7:08 pm

Forthe wrote:Bring back the VVs!!!!

I was the Bill Gates of VV's! And not because of my post count (entirely), I won a few big VV contests! Namely, the presidential electoral prediction competition of '04!

Those were fun. I dished some of those out for the VV Survivor Game. A VV Member/Celebrity Stock Market game would be great. Cart would be a delisted, high risk stock! Any member of the cliqué would be safe to invest in because they'd be bailed out if they got into trouble, the same as the banks are right now.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 26, 2008, 12:54 am

As far as cowardice goes, take a look at this post and tell me there is no cowardice in the argument

No Your the coward, Sand Nigger.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » March 26, 2008, 1:41 am

the maturity level if this place amazes me sometimes. Very compelling response Miir.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » March 26, 2008, 4:15 am

Woosh.