Seahawks 07-08

[Aslanna]

Ah. Got it. Agreed! Who cares what coaches wear. The having to wear Reebok only stuff seems lame to me. But they are part of the NFL organization so I guess the organization is free to dictate stuff like that.

[Winnow]

Sorry I should have clarified. I meant about what they are wearing.

It doesn't matter and wasn't that big a deal until Sueven tried to make it an issue. It still doesn't make sense to be on a suit on the sidelines but at least I have an idea of why this particular coach is doing it.

[Aardor]

Sorry I should have clarified. I meant about what they are wearing.

It doesn't matter and wasn't that big a deal until Sueven tried to make it an issue. It still doesn't make sense to be on a suit on the sidelines but at least I have an idea of why this particular coach is doing it.

As i've asked before, why doesn't it make sense? your reasons of practicality and comfortability were addressed.

[Winnow]

Sorry I should have clarified. I meant about what they are wearing.

It doesn't matter and wasn't that big a deal until Sueven tried to make it an issue. It still doesn't make sense to be on a suit on the sidelines but at least I have an idea of why this particular coach is doing it.

As i've asked before, why doesn't it make sense? your reasons of practicality and comfortability were addressed.

I addressed that in my post with the pictures. Click back to page one.

[Aardor]

Sorry I should have clarified. I meant about what they are wearing.

It doesn't matter and wasn't that big a deal until Sueven tried to make it an issue. It still doesn't make sense to be on a suit on the sidelines but at least I have an idea of why this particular coach is doing it.

As i've asked before, why doesn't it make sense? your reasons of practicality and comfortability were addressed.

I addressed that in my post with the pictures. Click back to page one.

He could wear different shoes (or even dress shoes with cleats, yes they exist). Or golf shoes. Furthermore, how impractical is it to move out of the way in a suit? I see coaches having to dodge players extremely rarely (since they're normally back far) and I have no doubt that I could move out of the way of someone running at me just as fast in a suit/dress shoes than a sweatsuit with sneakers.

He would put on a rain/snow jacket like the other coaches who do so during weather. Where is the impracticality here? Hell, he could put on an overcoat and the rubber shoe covers (forget their name) and protect himself from the weather while still dressing formally.

Muddy sidelines? same effect on other coaches, and sure it could ruin the suit, but the suit is provided for him, just like the other coaches outfits. So how is this impractical?

[Winnow]

Sorry man, any way you slice it, a suit on the sidelines isn't the best way to dress for the environment you're in. He can wear whatever the league lets him. That doesn't mean it makes sense. You can wear a business suit to a park as well...also pretty dumb.

Dress shoes are dumb in the best of conditions. I'll debate it for the next 500 posts if you want.

[Aardor]

Sorry man, any way you slice it, a suit on the sidelines isn't the best way to dress for the environment you're in. He can wear whatever the league lets him. That doesn't mean it makes sense. You can wear a business suit to a park as well...also pretty dumb.

Dress shoes are dumb in the best of conditions. I'll debate it for the next 500 posts if you want.

I want that, definitely.

So your rules for dress are: Dress the best way for the environment you are in? That means the outfits other coaches wear are impractical too? I mean, a sweat suit definitely isn't the best outfit for a football field where it could rain, snow, etc, or where someone may run into you at a high speed from the game. So following your logic, shouldn't the coaches be wearing uniforms similar to the players, including the pads and helmet?

Why is wearing a suit to a park dumb? Sure it's dumb if you're going to do physical activity in a park, but it would be perfectly practical to wear one to enjoy the view of the park, or walk a dog, etc.

My dress shoes fit just as well, and have nearly the exact same treads as my casual sneakers (so they aren't basketball, running, cross training, etc sneakers). So why are they dumb?

[Winnow]

My dress shoes fit just as well, and have nearly the exact same treads as my casual sneakers (so they aren't basketball, running, cross training, etc sneakers). So why are they dumb?

Your dress shoes have the same treads as your sneakers? Are you wearing hush puppies or something? Most dress shoes have no treads at all and judging from what I saw in the Monday Night Game, the coach was wearing nice dress shoes, not hybrid shoes ushers wear at concerts or at McDonalds.

[Aardor]

My dress shoes fit just as well, and have nearly the exact same treads as my casual sneakers (so they aren't basketball, running, cross training, etc sneakers). So why are they dumb?

Your dress shoes have the same treads as your sneakers? Are you wearing hush puppies or something? Most dress shoes have no treads at all and judging from what I saw in the Monday Night Game, the coach was wearing nice dress shoes, not hybrid shoes ushers wear at concerts or at McDonalds.

as my casual sneakers?, yes they do. I don't know that i've owned a pair of dress shoes (I haven't owned many pairs) that were completely flat on the bottom. My dress shoes are made by nunn bush, which is pretty well know dress shoe company. I wouldn't call these hybrid shoes at all, though they do have comfort gel. I have no idea what type of treads Mike Nolan's shoes have, but I highly doubt they were tuxedo style shoes (or bowling shoes) which are completely flat on the bottom.

[Winnow]

"I did it primarily because of my dad," Nolan has said many times. "But also out of respect for the league and the organization and guys who have done it in the past. Had he not worn a suit, I might have had a different outlook on it."

So he probably wouldn't care if his dad didn't wear a suit. It doesn't sound like he loves to wear suits on the sidelines...just some tradition or nod to the uncomfortable past the coaches had to endure.

Some other NFL coach comments on suits:

Dungy smiled when told of the players' fashion sense for him. "They're correct about that," he said. He's sticking with his baseball cap and basic shirt.

"I grew up watching coaches on the sideline in suits. It's what everybody did," Dungy said. "Now, what everybody does is what they do."

Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid has his clothing priorities straight: It's comfort first.

"If I could wear my coach's shorts on the sideline, I'd probably do that," he said. "Guys have a tendency to want to be comfortable."

If they do switch, it's subtle. Remember New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick's new attire for the Colts' visit last month? Instead of the usual gray sweatshirt with the sleeves cut off, Belichick broke out a bright red sweatshirt. And it was too cold to cut off the sleeves.

Indy won 27-20. Belichick has since said he would consider wearing a suit, but has yet to ask for the league's OK.

It's also difficult to envision some of the other established coaches in a suit. Bill Parcells? Marty Schottenheimer? Mike Holmgren? Bill Cowher, who said he doesn't even wear a suit to church?

Titans coach Jeff Fisher seems like a logical choice. He's a California guy, has the good looks, stays in great shape. How about it, coach?

"I personally would say no," Fisher said. "Sometimes, I get excited and animated. I think wearing a suit would be a little bit restrictive."

[Sueven]

As i've asked before, why doesn't it make sense? your reasons of practicality and comfortability were addressed.

Hey shitbag, haven't you learned that you've got to wear cleats and a tracksuit as a coach so you can dodge out of the way of those huge players who come barreling into you every few minutes? Everyone knows that the sideline is a war zone, you're risking your neck going out there in a suit. I mean gosh, how could you possibly hope to move out of the way of someone wearing shoes with slightly less tread on the bottom than some other pair of shoes you could have worn?! Christ, if Joe Paterno had only been wearing a better pair of shoes, he wouldn't have broken his leg last year!

It doesn't matter and wasn't that big a deal until Sueven tried to make it an issue.

I'm defending a coaches right to wear whatever the fuck they want precisely because it doesn't matter. If you actually thought that it didn't matter, you wouldn't be arguing that suits are inappropriate for the context. That is, by definition, arguing that what they wear DOES matter-- if it didn't, you would have no argument to make.

You keep trying to read some grand motives into my behavior on this thread. There is none. The truth is that the quantity of posted diarrhea you spew all over this board yields plenty of ammunition and plenty of opportunities to attack you over things you say that are inconsistent or just plain stupid. This one happens to be both inconsistent and stupid. I felt like it would be fun to needle you about it, and so I did. Lord knows you've done the same thing to enough people.

[Winnow]

I'm defending a coaches right to wear whatever the fuck they want precisely because it doesn't matter. If you actually thought that it didn't matter, you wouldn't be arguing that suits are inappropriate for the context.

I wasn't questioning a coach's right to wear whatever they want. I commented that it looked retarded and from that comment stemmed the debate about practical clothes. From my additional research on the subject after your initial reply, it looks like he's just doing it to prove a point and honer his father. If his father wore a lab coat on the sidelines, that's what he'd be wearing now. I read a comment from someone that saw him taking the suit coat off as soon as he could after the game was over...also that it was a poorly made suit, based on what some expert suit maker could tell from the seams on the back of the jacket in a close up high def shot...so he's no expert on suits, not wearing it because it's comfortable...it's just to make a point and fight "the man"...which is fine...and it looks out of place...that's my opinion...and that's all it is. So yeah, he can wear whatever he wants. That wasn't my point at all.

[Sueven]

also that it was a poorly made suit, based on what some expert suit maker could tell from the seams on the back of the jacket in a close up high def shot

It's a freaking REEBOK SUIT

[Winnow]

also that it was a poorly made suit, based on what some expert suit maker could tell from the seams on the back of the jacket in a close up high def shot

It's a freaking REEBOK SUIT

Not my problem! It looked "retarded" which was my initial comment.

A coach's right to wear whatever they want has nothing to do with it. You could have replied, 'Yes Winnow. It does look retarded. Due to league rules, he's forced to wear a suit made by Reebok. He's wearing it in order to honor his father and protest the NFL's policy."

But nooooo, you got all snooty and started quoting from all over the board, on a crusade to challenge my consistency on this board, instead of simply answering my question posed to the board!

[Boogahz]

Adidas suits would be better.

[Truant]

I can't believe any of you still reply to anything Winnow posts.

[Winnow]

To clarify why it looks retarded on the sidelines of a football game, consider this. If you watch a baseball game, what are the managers wearing? How about military generals out in the field, "in country"? Are they wearing their dress uniforms? They aren't actually fighting but they're wearing clothes appropriate to their surroundings even though they won't be in the action themselves, they could be involved at any moment with action nearby.

It's horseshit to say a suit makes sense for a football coach. As to their right to wear whatever they want, I fully agree.

[Canelek]

Yall can argue all the semantics ya want, but the NFC representative in the Super Bowl is still going to be decided by a pajama party pillow fight.

[Zamtuk]

This is simply the most homosexual sports argument I have ever witnessed in my life.

Congrats winnow et al.

[Boogahz]

To clarify why it looks retarded on the sidelines of a football game, consider this. If you watch a baseball game, what are the managers wearing? How about military generals out in the field, "in country"? Are they wearing their dress uniforms? They aren't actually fighting but they're wearing clothes appropriate to their surroundings even though they won't be in the action themselves, they could be involved at any moment with action nearby.

It's horseshit to say a suit makes sense for a football coach. As to their right to wear whatever they want, I fully agree.

Um, no, they generally (no pun intended) wear clothing that matches the grunts to keep from being a bright shiny target.