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[Sueven]

I'd like to clarify that my post wasn't meant to be disrespectful of fat people, although it kind of looks like it. I was trying to say that there's nothing wrong with smokers just like there's nothing wrong with big folks, not the opposite.

[Xyun]

Smoking is a privilege not a right. In any civilized society, anything you do that has the potential to bring harm to another person is not a fucking right.

Banning smoking dramatically helped my business, and I ran a fucking casino out of my house. The fact of the matter is non-smokers will NOT patronize a smoking establishment, while smokers will continue to go to non-smoking establishments.

That said, I smoke 1-2 packs a day and I think most non-smokers tend to blow the issue out of proportion.

So should a private business be allowed to operate if the walls are filled with asbestos?
What if the place is infested with rats?
Or mold?

There are countless studies of the effects of secondhand smoke.
No one should have to work (or eat) in an environment where their health is placed at risk.

There are already laws in place that require business owners to provide a safe environment for their employees. How is this any different?

Your examples have nothing to do with smoking. Smoking is a obvious hazard that usually can't be hidden like asbestos, rats and mold. If an owner fails to notify his customers and staff about those and they get sick then they can sue him. Smoking is kind of hard to hide though so anyone working or patronizing a smoking establishment takes the risk knowingly.

I personally believe that second hand smoke is harmful but there have been a lot of studies that say that certain amounts are harmless. Going into a smoking restaurant and having a meal is not going to give you cancer. For every study that says second hand smoke is bad, I can find a rebuttal against it. Most studies so far have been seriously biased in one way or another. I do believe that large amounts of second hand smoke are harmful. I can see just across my street. A mother and her boyfriend chain smoke around her two kids. It is easy to see the kid is already mentally deficient and he is barely 4 years old.

lol @ the notion that smoking has any effect on intelligence whatsoever. That has to be the dumbest thing i've read on these boards in a long time.

[Morgrym]

The continued lack of substantial oxygen getting to the child could theoretically stunt brain growth. No idea if there are any precious studies done on it or not and it's hardly important enough for me to research it. Just felt the need to play devils advocate.

[Sylvus]

in my opinion, the mental deficiencies of the child are more a reflection of the genetics of people that would chain smoke around their children.

but it could have to do with the smokes.