Posted: June 30, 2006, 4:41 pm
Glad to hear CT is coming together once again. You should create a chat channel for exmembers who don't want to change servers or start another character.
lololololThess wrote:Kylere is 100% correct, after his, "I will not play EQ until CT is UBER again - we could have been the first to kill Rallos Zek post", I didn't even try leading CT.Kylere wrote:To clarify, Thess did not lead CT, she cajoled people into doing shit while negotiating to hop guilds. Not attacking her, just making sure we are all on the same sheet of music.
lets seeMidnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I played WoW for 8months. It's ghey. Once you grind to 60, you have nothign to do but shitty faction work and gold farming. It's dreadfully boring and uninteresting. If you have a good guild, I'm sure it can be fun because you are all together raiding the same 3 things every few ngihts. EQ2 has an enormous amount of content and even the grinding parts of it are made interesting through it's ridiculous amount of quests. Plus, the storyline is far more interesting. It's not even comparable. I'm not sure why I'm even bothering typign this.
Don't forget to add:______________ wrote:lets seeMidnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I played WoW for 8months. It's ghey. Once you grind to 60, you have nothign to do but shitty faction work and gold farming. It's dreadfully boring and uninteresting. If you have a good guild, I'm sure it can be fun because you are all together raiding the same 3 things every few ngihts. EQ2 has an enormous amount of content and even the grinding parts of it are made interesting through it's ridiculous amount of quests. Plus, the storyline is far more interesting. It's not even comparable. I'm not sure why I'm even bothering typign this.
wow:
scholomance
stratholme
dire maul
upper black rock spire
lower black rock spire
black wing lair
molten core
black rock downs
zul gurub
aq20
aq40
naxxramas
alterac valley
arathi basin
warsong gulch
eq2:
lady vox
fire giants
fippy darkpaw
a bunch of other low quality bullshit mixed with cutting edge wax like graphics and boring as fuck gameplay
AND WE ALL KNOW THE NUMBER ONE REASON TO PLAY MMOS IS THE FUCKING BADASS STORYLINE GUYS LOLLLLLLLLL
Taking a look at the 'Long List' you put together for WoW end-game content, I will reflect to you how each of those zones actually applied to when I had a chance to partake in them.______________ wrote:a bunch of other low quality bullshit mixed with cutting edge wax like graphics and boring as fuck gameplay
AND WE ALL KNOW THE NUMBER ONE REASON TO PLAY MMOS IS THE FUCKING BADASS STORYLINE GUYS LOLLLLLLLLL
1. You can only have 5 man groups, not six.Xanupox wrote:Taking a look at the 'Long List' you put together for WoW end-game content, I will reflect to you how each of those zones actually applied to when I had a chance to partake in them.______________ wrote:a bunch of other low quality bullshit mixed with cutting edge wax like graphics and boring as fuck gameplay
AND WE ALL KNOW THE NUMBER ONE REASON TO PLAY MMOS IS THE FUCKING BADASS STORYLINE GUYS LOLLLLLLLLL
wow:
scholomance - 6Man Group, turned into a Farm session nobody even died.
stratholme - Everyone always wanted to do Undeadside, 6Man group.
dire maul - Did this once, something called "Tribute Run" 5Man group.
upper black rock spire - Did this 10,000 times to farm a key for something
lower black rock spire - Did this once at 5AM with 4Man group.
black wing lair - RAID CONTENT!
molten core - RAID CONTENT, but boring as fuck
black rock downs - Solo'd this one, Raid ?? LOL.
zul gurub - Semi-Raid, very boring and linear, RvR very poor. (Poor mans MC/BWL)
aq20 - Quit before this, but sounds like another ZG (for guilds that cant do MC/BWL)
aq40 - Same as above
naxxramas - New Content, no idea
alterac valley - PvP Qeue up and wait from 1-5 days for enough to play it
arathi basin - PvP Qeue up and wait 1-3 hours for enough to play it
warsong gulch - PvP Qeue up and wait 30 minutes, then its over in 10. YEAH!
Overall WoW has like 3-4 "Raid Areas" that are even worth doing, unless you enjoy progressing backwards. Guilds that were doing MC and BLW, never goto ZG because there are no upgrades, since ZG was released well after MC, this was the case for most.
WoW does feel like a great game when you are leveling up, but when you get to the near-end, you can really "feel" how the game suffers from losing the people that actually made WoW what it was for those first 50 levels.
The only people left at Blizzard are the ones that got so rich they dont even come to work anymore, and then the new guys they just hired from ITT Tech and Devry to take thier places... lol.
Actually DDO was and still is a great game. The problem we encountered was it was not conducive to our playstyle, 2-3 hours a night as a group we roto-tilled the limited content that was available.masteen wrote:So Xanupox was wrong about DDO being the second coming of Baby Jesus? I am shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you! Surely he's not wrong about EQ2 as well!
EQ2 is ass, served on an ass-shaped platter, with a side of stinking ass.
Not too late at all, as a matter of a fact, several old names that you will probably remember have started playing just this week.mezzmor-reactivated wrote:Is it too late to try and play starting a new character? You guys too far ahead of the curve?
If anyone knows ass, it's gotta be Masteen. After all, he did go to UF.masteen wrote:So Xanupox was wrong about DDO being the second coming of Baby Jesus? I am shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you! Surely he's not wrong about EQ2 as well!
EQ2 is ass, served on an ass-shaped platter, with a side of stinking ass.
There are no 6 man groups in WoW. What are you talking about?Xanupox wrote:Taking a look at the 'Long List' you put together for WoW end-game content, I will reflect to you how each of those zones actually applied to when I had a chance to partake in them.
wow:
scholomance - 6Man Group, turned into a Farm session nobody even died.
stratholme - Everyone always wanted to do Undeadside, 6Man group.
dire maul - Did this once, something called "Tribute Run" 5Man group.
upper black rock spire - Did this 10,000 times to farm a key for something
lower black rock spire - Did this once at 5AM with 4Man group.
black wing lair - RAID CONTENT!
molten core - RAID CONTENT, but boring as fuck
black rock downs - Solo'd this one, Raid ?? LOL.
zul gurub - Semi-Raid, very boring and linear, RvR very poor. (Poor mans MC/BWL)
aq20 - Quit before this, but sounds like another ZG (for guilds that cant do MC/BWL)
aq40 - Same as above
naxxramas - New Content, no idea
alterac valley - PvP Qeue up and wait from 1-5 days for enough to play it
arathi basin - PvP Qeue up and wait 1-3 hours for enough to play it
warsong gulch - PvP Qeue up and wait 30 minutes, then its over in 10. YEAH!
Overall WoW has like 3-4 "Raid Areas" that are even worth doing, unless you enjoy progressing backwards. Guilds that were doing MC and BLW, never goto ZG because there are no upgrades, since ZG was released well after MC, this was the case for most.
WoW does feel like a great game when you are leveling up, but when you get to the near-end, you can really "feel" how the game suffers from losing the people that actually made WoW what it was for those first 50 levels.
The only people left at Blizzard are the ones that got so rich they dont even come to work anymore, and then the new guys they just hired from ITT Tech and Devry to take thier places... lol.
PWNTMezzdat wrote:WoW has more end-game content than EQ2 currently, in addition to encounters that actually make you think. Then again, I can now see why CT values the EQ2 end-game encounters over WoWs.
Not really. He has mentioned that they were not anywhere near the EQ2 end-game yet. Other than that, his WoW references were off by quite a bit.masteen wrote:PWNTMezzdat wrote:WoW has more end-game content than EQ2 currently, in addition to encounters that actually make you think. Then again, I can now see why CT values the EQ2 end-game encounters over WoWs.
MASAI!Masai wrote:ya....i had a char in guk...quit long time ago....
maybe will see you all again
So MISS this time
Simple for leveling, yes. Simple for raiding, and end game? No way. Which is where it really matters. WoW scales more for different people than EQ2. Everyday casual gamers can play it a few hours a week leveling their characters or BGing for honor. However, if you want to raid and hang with the big dogs, a minimum of 5 nights a week 4 hours a night is required. The raid fights are neither simple or fast.Xanupox wrote:The bottom line on this subject is that WoW is just a simple game compared to EQ2.
Two very different games. If you have tons of free time and want a challenge... play EQ2. If you have little time and want an easier game, then play WoW.
I actually was raiding in WoW. I played for around 6 months at my longest stretch, the guild I was in, appeared to be a seemingly very ogranized guild, but we were on a newly opened server. The raids we were doing were things that already had a full fledged 20 page walkthru written for them and the CT-RAID ASSIST mod was coded for these raids it seemed. Molten Core, Onyxia, Zul Gurub, Outside Dragons, etc.Mezzdat wrote:I understand you weren't able to raid in WoW, so I understand how you have no grasp of how it is. Just don't let the quick leveling fool you. The raid encounters in WoW are twice as thought out, and can be very rewarding when beaten.
if you would like i could go through and list all the single npcs like you did and make my list look a lot bigger instead of just listing contentLynnsie wrote:Don't forget to add:______________ wrote:lets seeMidnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I played WoW for 8months. It's ghey. Once you grind to 60, you have nothign to do but shitty faction work and gold farming. It's dreadfully boring and uninteresting. If you have a good guild, I'm sure it can be fun because you are all together raiding the same 3 things every few ngihts. EQ2 has an enormous amount of content and even the grinding parts of it are made interesting through it's ridiculous amount of quests. Plus, the storyline is far more interesting. It's not even comparable. I'm not sure why I'm even bothering typign this.
wow:
scholomance
stratholme
dire maul
upper black rock spire
lower black rock spire
black wing lair
molten core
black rock downs
zul gurub
aq20
aq40
naxxramas
alterac valley
arathi basin
warsong gulch
eq2:
lady vox
fire giants
fippy darkpaw
a bunch of other low quality bullshit mixed with cutting edge wax like graphics and boring as fuck gameplay
AND WE ALL KNOW THE NUMBER ONE REASON TO PLAY MMOS IS THE FUCKING BADASS STORYLINE GUYS LOLLLLLLLLL
Talendor
Gorenaire
Harla Dar
Lord Vyemm
Tarinax (Deathtoll, the zone as a whole is nice)
Barakah
Siyamak
Djinn Masters Prism
Hurricanus the Patriarch
The Mutagenic Outcast
King Drayek
Various T5,6 and 7 static mobs that are too many to name.
Basically there is a lot more content available to raiders than you listed. I'm not being an ass but if you're going to try and compare a cartoon to a game then you might want to list all the content available in those two games, not just a mediocre list of both. These may fall in your wax content bullshit bin of stuff, but thought I'd name them anyway. I usually don't even get caught up in bullshit rants about which game is better and why. I've played them both and EQ2 to me is a great game, but to me the game is a lot more than content. I've met some pretty good people playing EQ2 and the graphics to me, with the system that I run, are a lot more appealing to stare at for hours on end, than WoW graphics. I'm probably throwing out flame bait, but most of the shit talked about in x vs y game threads usually are nothing but flames on one persons opinion.
Carry on
*~*stragi*~* wrote:if you would like i could go through and list all the single npcs like you did and make my list look a lot bigger instead of just listing contentLynnsie wrote:Don't forget to add:______________ wrote:lets seeMidnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I played WoW for 8months. It's ghey. Once you grind to 60, you have nothign to do but shitty faction work and gold farming. It's dreadfully boring and uninteresting. If you have a good guild, I'm sure it can be fun because you are all together raiding the same 3 things every few ngihts. EQ2 has an enormous amount of content and even the grinding parts of it are made interesting through it's ridiculous amount of quests. Plus, the storyline is far more interesting. It's not even comparable. I'm not sure why I'm even bothering typign this.
wow:
scholomance
stratholme
dire maul
upper black rock spire
lower black rock spire
black wing lair
molten core
black rock downs
zul gurub
aq20
aq40
naxxramas
alterac valley
arathi basin
warsong gulch
eq2:
lady vox
fire giants
fippy darkpaw
a bunch of other low quality bullshit mixed with cutting edge wax like graphics and boring as fuck gameplay
AND WE ALL KNOW THE NUMBER ONE REASON TO PLAY MMOS IS THE FUCKING BADASS STORYLINE GUYS LOLLLLLLLLL
Talendor
Gorenaire
Harla Dar
Lord Vyemm
Tarinax (Deathtoll, the zone as a whole is nice)
Barakah
Siyamak
Djinn Masters Prism
Hurricanus the Patriarch
The Mutagenic Outcast
King Drayek
Various T5,6 and 7 static mobs that are too many to name.
Basically there is a lot more content available to raiders than you listed. I'm not being an ass but if you're going to try and compare a cartoon to a game then you might want to list all the content available in those two games, not just a mediocre list of both. These may fall in your wax content bullshit bin of stuff, but thought I'd name them anyway. I usually don't even get caught up in bullshit rants about which game is better and why. I've played them both and EQ2 to me is a great game, but to me the game is a lot more than content. I've met some pretty good people playing EQ2 and the graphics to me, with the system that I run, are a lot more appealing to stare at for hours on end, than WoW graphics. I'm probably throwing out flame bait, but most of the shit talked about in x vs y game threads usually are nothing but flames on one persons opinion.
Carry on
mind = blownBoogahz wrote:*~*stragi*~* wrote:if you would like i could go through and list all the single npcs like you did and make my list look a lot bigger instead of just listing contentLynnsie wrote:Don't forget to add:______________ wrote:lets seeMidnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I played WoW for 8months. It's ghey. Once you grind to 60, you have nothign to do but shitty faction work and gold farming. It's dreadfully boring and uninteresting. If you have a good guild, I'm sure it can be fun because you are all together raiding the same 3 things every few ngihts. EQ2 has an enormous amount of content and even the grinding parts of it are made interesting through it's ridiculous amount of quests. Plus, the storyline is far more interesting. It's not even comparable. I'm not sure why I'm even bothering typign this.
wow:
scholomance
stratholme
dire maul
upper black rock spire
lower black rock spire
black wing lair
molten core
black rock downs
zul gurub
aq20
aq40
naxxramas
alterac valley
arathi basin
warsong gulch
eq2:
lady vox
fire giants
fippy darkpaw
a bunch of other low quality bullshit mixed with cutting edge wax like graphics and boring as fuck gameplay
AND WE ALL KNOW THE NUMBER ONE REASON TO PLAY MMOS IS THE FUCKING BADASS STORYLINE GUYS LOLLLLLLLLL
Talendor
Gorenaire
Harla Dar
Lord Vyemm
Tarinax (Deathtoll, the zone as a whole is nice)
Barakah
Siyamak
Djinn Masters Prism
Hurricanus the Patriarch
The Mutagenic Outcast
King Drayek
Various T5,6 and 7 static mobs that are too many to name.
Basically there is a lot more content available to raiders than you listed. I'm not being an ass but if you're going to try and compare a cartoon to a game then you might want to list all the content available in those two games, not just a mediocre list of both. These may fall in your wax content bullshit bin of stuff, but thought I'd name them anyway. I usually don't even get caught up in bullshit rants about which game is better and why. I've played them both and EQ2 to me is a great game, but to me the game is a lot more than content. I've met some pretty good people playing EQ2 and the graphics to me, with the system that I run, are a lot more appealing to stare at for hours on end, than WoW graphics. I'm probably throwing out flame bait, but most of the shit talked about in x vs y game threads usually are nothing but flames on one persons opinion.
Carry on
...or you could do just what Lynnsie did and flame a person for doing exactly what you're doing yourself! That wood b kuhl!
its a brilliant model though and not likely to go anywhere, even in future games.The only bad thing about the RA is that Blizzard now seems to be designing encounters based on everyone using it. Makes for awesome encounters, but also prohibits people who refuse to use add-ons from doing anything but dying in very embarrassing fashion
Nah, EQ2 has a hell of a lot more content.... they are coming up on their 4th expansion.Kwonryu DragonFist wrote:So, the main concensus is that WoW have more endgame-content than EQ2 but that EQ2 is more challenging, difficult and timeconsuming.
Vanguard is roughly two and a half years behind WOW and EQ2.Where does Vanguard stand between these?
Too bad!miir wrote:Vanguard is roughly two and a half years behind WOW and EQ2.Where does Vanguard stand between these?
Well ,well, well, picture looks not very good !Winnow wrote:Zairus was CT's GL before Thess.Canelek wrote:I remember CT. Who was that dipshit that was the guild leader before Thess? Can't quite recall name.
Shameless CT picture plug!