Pantera's Dimebag Darrell dead in club shooting

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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
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I never wish death upon anyone, unless they are murders, hurt children, etc.

I just find it laughable the outpouring this loser gets. If our President was shot and killed the same assholes would be screaming with joy. I just think posts like these show the true value of many of the idiots who post here on a daily basis. It also makes me feel like shit because I waste my time even talking to such vile disgusting pigs.
The outpouring probably comes from fans of his music, I don't recall him ever hurting someone though. Myself, I feel bad, he was where he works and some guy comes on stage and shoots him and 3 other people. Thats the sad part.

Bush on the other hand, I don't wish him death, just a sever beating, maybe a few days in Gitmo.

I can easily call you out for being a hypoctite now, you would laugh at this "innocent" man, and 3 others, dying, yet you would cry over Bush if he died tomorrow. Who's the vile disgusting pig now?
/shrug, I dunno. I never laughed at this incident nor do I think it is funny. I just find it funny how so many losers martyr scumbags.
I think he was somewhat a scum bag because he was somewhat racist (still not worth death)
but besides that, why is he a scumbag? he was a talented gitarist, he made a decent living, he entertained millions of fans...just because he has a different lifestyle, maybe dresses differently then you do and enjoys a few recreational smokes hes a scumbag?

shows how close minded and ignorant you conservatives are, if someone thinks "outside of the box", there scumbags
you would have called MLK a scumbag 50 years ago too, "that ignorant negro had no respect for the law"
Them coloreds have the same rights as we do, they just have there own schools
how dare they try to force there culture upon us, scumbags the lot of them!1
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Xzion wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Lynks wrote:
I never wish death upon anyone, unless they are murders, hurt children, etc.

I just find it laughable the outpouring this loser gets. If our President was shot and killed the same assholes would be screaming with joy. I just think posts like these show the true value of many of the idiots who post here on a daily basis. It also makes me feel like shit because I waste my time even talking to such vile disgusting pigs.
The outpouring probably comes from fans of his music, I don't recall him ever hurting someone though. Myself, I feel bad, he was where he works and some guy comes on stage and shoots him and 3 other people. Thats the sad part.

Bush on the other hand, I don't wish him death, just a sever beating, maybe a few days in Gitmo.

I can easily call you out for being a hypoctite now, you would laugh at this "innocent" man, and 3 others, dying, yet you would cry over Bush if he died tomorrow. Who's the vile disgusting pig now?
/shrug, I dunno. I never laughed at this incident nor do I think it is funny. I just find it funny how so many losers martyr scumbags.
I think he was somewhat a scum bag because he was somewhat racist (still not worth death)
but besides that, why is he a scumbag? he was a talented gitarist, he made a decent living, he entertained millions of fans...just because he has a different lifestyle, maybe dresses differently then you do and enjoys a few recreational smokes hes a scumbag?

shows how close minded and ignorant you conservatives are, if someone thinks "outside of the box", there scumbags
you would have called MLK a scumbag 50 years ago too, "that ignorant negro had no respect for the law"
Them coloreds have the same rights as we do, they just have there own schools
how dare they try to force there culture upon us, scumbags the lot of them!1
There's the racist bullshit again. Have you found one example on me saying racist shit against black people?
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote: There's the racist bullshit again. Have you found one example on me saying racist shit against black people?
Midnyte!!!

I have just pored through about 15 pages of your posts in ascending order of date posted, and honestly I don't see any merit to this claim that you are racist. It could be that people confuse you with Atokal due to other factors. He smacks of racism, but I haven't seen anything you've posted as being racist.

If someone else wants to pore over the other 18 pages of his posts to find something, they're welcome to it.

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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:There's the racist bullshit again. Have you found one example on me saying racist shit against black people?
Can you name one example of Dimebag being a scumbag, besides his oh-so-offense-and-personality-revealing nickname?
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Drinsic Darkwood wrote: Can you name one example of Dimebag being a scumbag, besides his oh-so-offense-and-personality-revealing nickname?
That's just retardation/trolling, not racism.

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Well ok I got a little bored, and found this which is at least borderline racism if not outright.

In a subject talking about blacks and crime:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote: Hmmm. Who's fault is this? Of course the libs will blame the white man for holding the black man down and forcing him into a life of crime. LOL
Midnyte, did you mean to imply that black people are more prone to committing crimes than white people?

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I don't know, here's some pretty bad things people that actually knew him have said about him:
"He's the type of guy that would do anything for his friends," Anthrax guitarist Scott Ian said. "He really did put his family and his friends first, and for him everyone was his family. Once you came into contact with Dimebag and became friends with that guy, it was a sacred bond. Once you shared drinks with that guy, you became a part of his extended family. ... The world hasn't seen someone with as strong an energy as Dimebag Darrell in my lifetime. He's one of those few people I've met who was absolutely special in every way."

"Dimebag was a dear friend of mine," Ozzy Osbourne said. "I'm absolutely beside myself with grief. I can't for the life of me understand why someone would do this. Pantera toured with me many, many times. I'll always remember the signed guitar that he gave me at my 50th birthday party. My heart goes out to Dime's family, his fans and the other innocent victims who were killed in this senseless tragedy. It's just terribly, terribly sad."

"Darrell and Pantera were one of the main reasons I joined a metal band," Korn frontman Jonathan Davis said. "This is a tragic loss for the music community and to all who knew him. Korn is truly shaken and we want to send our deepest condolences to the families of the deceased."

"I wish to thank and remember Darrell for his amazing life and the gift that he shared with me and so many others," Megadeth leader Dave Mustaine offered via his Web site. "I pray for Darrell's family and friends, specifically for their healing, their peace and their understanding of this tragedy in this time of need. I send my deepest heartfelt condolences to the Abbott family, to Darrell's friends, and to the fantastic Pantera and Damageplan fans around the world. We must never forget his life and his gifts, his genius, his terrific personality, and the legacy he left behind to remember him by."

"We had the pleasure of touring three times with Pantera," Deftones drummer Abe Cunningham said. "They treated us so well on the road. We had some great times hanging out with them. They treated us with open arms, especially the brothers [Dimebag and his brother, Vinnie Paul]. Darrell lived the music. We feel terrible, and our hearts go out to his family, brother and father. He was a legend in this business, and an unbelievable musician. He will be missed by all."

In addition to the peers who rocked alongside Pantera, a legion of young metal lions who were first moved by Dimebag's signature sound weighed in on his inspirational musicianship and spirit (see " 'Dimebag' Darrell Abbott: A Larger-Than-Life Guitarist And Human Being").

"Dime's music was a huge influence on me personally and on Lamb of God as a whole," Mark Morton said. "As a guitar player, he was a true innovator. His sound tone and style shaped modern metal and his riffs are constantly referenced by nearly every band in metal, including my own. Only recently did I have the pleasure of hanging out with him on a personal level, and he was as genuine and down to earth as anyone you would ever meet. This is a huge loss to the music world."

"Dimebag Darrell was one of the nicest and most genuine human beings all of us in Unearth have ever met," vocalist Trevor Phipp said. "His presence, music and most of all his friendship will be dearly missed. Dime loved life, cared about people and was a true rock icon. Everything about him was admirable. Our thoughts and hearts go out to his family and friends."
Well there you have it. He sure seems like such the scumbag to me.

Oh, but wait.. Guess it's his fellow scumbags that are saying those things so they must be biased.
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I can't recall one Pantera song that was racist in nature. In fact, most of their songs were about personal strength, standing up for what you believe in and being honest.

Nor can I ever recall Dime saying anything offensive or racist.

If any of you haters that make shit up find something true please post it.
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Tenuvil I think I have it... By Demons be driven, it's kind of racist against Angels or possibly Cowboys from Hell, that could be a racist song against Texans or something...

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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Yup. I made a presumption based on a few stereotypes. A heavy metal guy whos nicknames was "dimebag". Turns out I was right huh? So kindly go fuck yourself and own up to your own pathetic hypocrasy! Fucking double standard losers.



No shit for brains, you were wrong. One, did you know Dime's originall nickname was Diamond? Didn't think so. Two, if you listened to any of their music I can guaranfuckingtee you there was no racism in it. They've said it openly (and I wish I could find the clip) that Pantera does not care what race, gender or creed their fans are.


/shrug, I dunno. I never laughed at this incident nor do I think it is funny. I just find it funny how so many losers martyr scumbags.
Who fucking martyred him? His family, friends and his fans are mourning his death. The same fucking way you would if someone close to you had be murdered for no reason (or murdered period). The fact that you make a generalization about someone based upon a nickname they were given just makes you look even more ignorant. So kindly go crawl back under whatever fucking rock you came out of and as I said before, here's a big fuck you to you.
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I lost a really good friend on my 31st birthday. Dimebag was the kind of guy you could hang out with for 2 seconds and feel like you knew him your whole life. He made you laugh, made you drink, but most of all made you feel special. I'm really really going to miss him, but the one thing we will always have is his music."

- Corey Taylor, Slipknot
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"I don't know a single person who didn't love the music Dime created. I am so thankful for the all of the music he gave us and I am truly upset about this. I immediately broke into tears when I heard the confirmation. Dime's music gave me so much to live for when I was younger and he truly changed the face of metal with his unique style of guitar playing. There isn't a metal band I know that hasn't borrowed a riff or three from him. My heart goes out to the Abbot family, their friends and all of the fans who had to witness this tragedy in Columbus."

- Mark Hunter, Chimaira
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"This is insane and this is beyond travesty. This is beyond anything I've ever heard. This shouldn't happen in or outside of the rock and metal community. He will be missed and mourned as a person, as a musician, and as a friend."

- Howard Jones, Killswitch Engage
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"Dimebag was one of the most influential musicians in our time. Dime was a legend who really made the world seem that much better. He was a man who helped inspire countless numbers of players, fans, and people in general, including me. It's a terrifying feeling that now at concerts, at the place that we seek our release from the everyday world we want to escape from, our heroes are being murdered. My heart goes out to the Abbott family: Dimebag Darrell Abbott was a man of legendary and heroic status, but before all that, Darrell was and always will be a brother and a son we all mourn today."

- Matt Heafy, Trivium
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"It's just upsetting how the world is - the need and the necessity to override the value of life. From my whole (SLIPKNOT) family, I would like to tell . . . Vinnie and everyone else how sorry we are."

- Clown, Slipknot
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"Machine Head are devastated by the horrific news. Our deepest sympathy and condolences to the Abbott family, Damageplan and former members of Pantera. Our thoughts are with you all."

- Machine Head
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"Music has lost one of the greatest players and a friend and brother in metal. We toured together many times as a matter of fact and Darrell "Dime" and his brother came to our show in Texas. Today I feel empty, like there's nothing we can do to bring him back. All I can do is pray that Darrell is in a better place."

- Max Cavalera, Soulfly
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"He will truly be missed. Dime was one of the first people to show Slipknot respect as a band and that meant so much because we all looked up to him. I remember all the good times I was able to spend with him over the years from tearing it up at the Ritz Carlton playing our version of WWF wrestling with Joey (Jordison) and Bobby Tongs to getting drunk with the outlaw at noon. He was there for me when I was going through struggles and problems in my life, always willing to listen and give me good advice. He was a good friend and I will miss him greatly. My condolences go out to Vinnie, Rita and the entire Abbott Family."

- Paul Grey, Slipknot
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"I can't believe that this happened to Darrell. One could never imagine something like this happening at a metal concert. Out of all of the 'rock stars' that I know, he is the last person that deserved that. What a great guitarist and what a 'ham' he was. I am completely devastated. I am at loss of words."

- Trevor Peres, Obituary
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"Today is a sad day for music. Life Of Agony are extremely distraught over last night's insane tragedy which took the life of Damageplan's Dimebag Darrell. The band's hearts go out to the Abbott family as well as the entire Damageplan camp. Dime, you will never be forgotten. We are all just speechless over here."

- Life Of Agony
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"Dimebag was an excellent musician and a good friend, a fucking great partner in memorable tours. We'll miss him very much. Our condolences to the Abbott family."

- Sepultura
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"Dimebag was to me probably the most influencial guitar player of metal since I knew what metal was. I can remember Tommy and I going to every Pantera show that came to town and even sneaking into one at the Paladium years ago by climbing up the side of the building. It saddens me to think that something like this could happen to somebody who did nothing but give to the people of this community. Even after Pantera he continued to bless us with his unique style of playing. His music will live on forever, and may he rest in eternal peace. My respect and condolances go out to Vinnie and his family, the rest of the band & crew, and the families of those who lost someone in this tragic event .
You will be missed but not forgotten."

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"I would just like to take this moment to expess my sorrow to all the people that passed away last night. I know Dime was a great influence to OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of people, including myself. He will be missed deeply. I can personally say I had some of the best times touring with Pantera. Music is something that should be shared with all. We never stop to realize how powerful it can be. Dime, thanks for all the fun times we had! This drink's for you! R.I.P."

- Meegs, Pinata/Coal Chamber

Oh yeah, he's a real fucking scumbag.. Oh but these people dont count, they're all heavy metal guys too so i guess they dont fucking count.
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Was he wearing a dopey flag at the time?

Well, then he doesn't count.
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Marbus wrote:Tenuvil I think I have it... By Demons be driven, it's kind of racist against Angels or possibly Cowboys from Hell, that could be a racist song against Texans or something...

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good tunes though :D

I'll be listening to some Pantera this weekend to remember Dime
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And the double standard about the racist comments thing isn't a double standard. If he made racist comments, which the only place I have heard that is from Xzion (yeah, good source) and it appears to be wrong in at least the cause of the motivation of this shooting, I don't think that's an offense that someone should be shot five times in the head for. If Dimebag posted racist comments on this forum, he would get the same treatment that you have gotten, Midnyte.
unless something had changed, i saw pantera like 10 years ago or something and phil(the singer) was going off on what could be misconstrued for racism
he wasnt putting any other race down, he was just taking about being proud of who you were(he is white)

terrible way to go, he was a huge influence me when i was in highschool/playing guitar
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Sylvus wrote:And the double standard about the racist comments thing isn't a double standard. If he made racist comments, which the only place I have heard that is from Xzion (yeah, good source) and it appears to be wrong in at least the cause of the motivation of this shooting, I don't think that's an offense that someone should be shot five times in the head for. If Dimebag posted racist comments on this forum, he would get the same treatment that you have gotten, Midnyte.
midnyte wrote:Find one about blacks please.
That's funny.

"You're racist!"
"No I'm not, I haven't said anything about black people!"

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I have actually never been a big pantra fan or knew much about a "racist" backround until a friend told me he had heard that he was murdered for that reason...i also understood pantera to have featured the confederate flag on a few of there albums and to have mouthed off racist shit at there concerts...but no i dont have any real proof of it...thats why i never said i did
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Soreali wrote: - Corey Taylor, Slipknot
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- Mark Hunter, Chimaira
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- Howard Jones, Killswitch Engage
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- Matt Heafy, Trivium
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- Clown, Slipknot
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- Machine Head
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- Max Cavalera, Soulfly
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- Paul Grey, Slipknot
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- Trevor Peres, Obituary
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- Life Of Agony
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- Sepultura
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- Jonny Santos, Spineshank
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- Meegs, Pinata/Coal Chamber
It's still a sad event but I've never heard of those people or bands!
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Well of course it all depends on the type of music you listen(ed) to. While not necessarily anymore, I think I've listened to (and enjoyed) the music of every band on there barring Trivium and horseshit like Slipknot.
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most of the bands are pretty big on the nu-metal genre. Wether they be good or bad is up for grabs, they are well known.
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Love the names of heavy metal bands -- those listed make great examples.

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Sionistic wrote:most of the bands are pretty big on the nu-metal genre. Wether they be good or bad is up for grabs, they are well known.
Most of those bands what (today) I wouldn't consider to be "good" music, but yeah, that's up for grabs depending on your opinion. Those are indeed, for the most part, pretty popular names in the nu-metal genre.
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Drinsic Darkwood wrote: Those are indeed, for the most part, pretty popular names in the nu-metal genre.
That's nu-metal? Is there a definition for that somewhere? I'm guessing "nu" is a kewl form of "new" and maybe there's a timeline that separates the old from the "nu".

Is that just a catchy phrase or does it really well define a genre? Is big hair the deciding factor?
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Well, I'm personally not a big fan of it anymore, but yeah, if I recall right, it was some self-proclaimed "kewl" term by either the genre or it's listeners. Maybe someone here who is a fan of it knows more than I do.

If you were to ask me what I listen to these days, it's a variety between progressive rock/metal, traditional "heavy metal", older rock, and even a bit of industrial and trance.

It pains me to admit I enjoyed Linkin Park's Hybrid Theory when it was first released. I can't figure out why, but I did, and I am ashamed.
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Winnow wrote:
Soreali wrote: - Corey Taylor, Slipknot
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- Mark Hunter, Chimaira
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- Howard Jones, Killswitch Engage
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- Matt Heafy, Trivium
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- Clown, Slipknot
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- Machine Head
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- Max Cavalera, Soulfly
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- Paul Grey, Slipknot
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- Trevor Peres, Obituary
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- Life Of Agony
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- Sepultura
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- Jonny Santos, Spineshank
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- Meegs, Pinata/Coal Chamber
It's still a sad event but I've never heard of those people or bands!
God, way to show your age Winnow!
The only no-name band on that list is Trivium, ( no-name is a bad choice of words, maybe up and coming) just an FYI so you can be hip and in-the-know!

P.S. None of the fucking bands on that list are "nu-metal". That shit went out with Fred Durst.
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Winnow wrote:
Drinsic Darkwood wrote: Those are indeed, for the most part, pretty popular names in the nu-metal genre.
That's nu-metal? Is there a definition for that somewhere? I'm guessing "nu" is a kewl form of "new" and maybe there's a timeline that separates the old from the "nu".

Is that just a catchy phrase or does it really well define a genre? Is big hair the deciding factor?
Big hair is definitely not part of nu-metal.

Nu-metal is that weird hybrid of hip-hop and metal that became popular in the late 90s and appears to be largely dead today. Nu-metal's origins can be traced back to the mid 80s with Anthrax's "I'm The Man" and "Bring Tha Noize" as well as the Aerosmith / Run DMC collaboration on "Walk This Way". Nu-metal has a more complex backbeat and funkier vocals, and many nu-metal acts use a DJ as part of the band. Generally nu-metal guitarists are not as solo-oriented and tend to play chunkier riffs. 7-string guitars and/or downtuned 6-string guitars help to further define the heavier bottom end sound of nu-metal.

Glad you asked? ;)

edit: agree with Stragi's opinion that none of the bands listed are nu-metal, with the possible exception of Slipknot, who are probably nu-metal but would be better classified as "unmitigated garbage".
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I've heard most of those bands and almost all of them are total shit. Spineshank has some talent.
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Thanks for the clear answer Tenuvil : )

Musically speaking, all I really know about is the Boy Bands that rangers have told me about. :twisted:

And Stragi, I'm not showing my age! I'm still hip to bands like Quiet Riot and Twisted Sister! I'm down with the 411. I'm jiggy with it. I can still get out there on the dance floor and tap toes - shake booty.

Music is something that you need to spend a lot of time with otherwise there's no hope of keeping up with the lastest trends. I must rely on music junkies for recommendations.
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I love shitty music.

I try not to be a music snob and narrow my mind on what is cool and what isnt....So what if a band is considered "nu metal" Music will always evolve and change....Fads will come and go. And people will always complain that their music "back in the day" will always be better than what is out there right now. We will all get older and music will keep evolving... But saying a band is garbage because they're considered to be in some genre is really just narrowminded... Those bands works pretty damm hard to get where they are. I respect them and their talents.

For the record Im a huge Slipknot fan :)
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Amen Bren.. I like most of the bands that I listed (yes there are a few i dont)..


I fucking despise linkin park though..
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I agree with Bren that music snobbery is bad.

I disagree with Bren that those bands are tolerable to the ears. Almost all of them are fucking horrible.

Especially Slipknot.
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Just for the record I didn't say that Slipknot was crap because they are "nu-metal". I said Slipknot is crap without regard for their genre.

Good music is good music regardless of what style it is*.



*Country and rap being 2 exceptions.
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I liked slipknot's first cd, the rest blew
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i dig country. I dig it like a shovel. And Im not real big on rap...I'm down with some underground stuff though.
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There's good country and bad country and there's good rap and bad rap. If you think all of it sucks you haven't listened to anything but mainstream crap. Toby Keith for isntance is a representation of how horrible country music can be, Johny Cash is an example of how great it can be. For rap, most all of what you would hear on a popular radio station or on MTV is crap, but if you search for so called "underground" rap you will find some quality music. The complex and intelligent lyrics of some undeground rap is amazing. Whether or not you like the style of it it's hard to deny how talented some rappers are.
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This thread diverged pretty far... However, basically anything called 'country' these days sucks. It's really nothing more than twangy pop. Dixie Chicks? Shania Twain? These are labeled country... But they're not country!
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Post by Sylvus »

some website wrote:Pantera Publicist Bitch-Slaps the E! Channel

By Newsferatu, Writer
Monday, August 21, 2006 @ 12:31 AM

Tasteless Request


We've dealt with Janie Hoffman over the years, and she's a no-nonsense pro who has served Pantera, Vinnie Paul and extended family well for some time.

Below is an e-mail Janie sent in response to a licensing request from the E! Channel to re-enact the murder of Dimebag Darrell.


Hi Beau. I¹m leaving John¹s comments in cause he¹s a nice guy and I know this was difficult for him to send on through. I¹m also blind copying a whole list of folks who will most likely copy a whole other list of folks until maybe this spreads like a good email should and end up on 100,000 websites to show the world what a collective bunch of tasteless morons you all are.
Dime¹s birthday is this coming Sunday and your timing couldn¹t be worse. Not that there is a good time. In fact, in honor of his birthday, I think I¹ll send this around to a few of our favorite music websites who will most likely print the whole damn thing word for word, including your phone number and email. For good measure, I¹m going to throw in the top 50 major daily music and some of the top TV writers in the country and why not, the weeklies as well.

I realize there is nothing anyone can do to stop E! from producing garbage like this below, as you¹ve built your audience on the backs of other people¹s private lives, creating some type of warped reality out of your garbage, which is merely excuses for programming on the cheap and at the expense of others.

I would like to request that you please read this out out loud to all the creative geniuses in the programming department that came up with this idea.

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We have received your request to license footage on Dimebag Darrell Abbott for your upcoming production of, "25 Most Chilling Hollywood Murders."

While we realize the average E! audience most likely has the IQ of an umbrella, they collectively are a smarter bunch than the lot of you. Your programming creativity falls somewhere to the bottom of the middle at best, and that¹s saying a lot.

I ask that you all please take a moment from your busy days and close your eyes. Live out the fantasy of playing your favorite instrument onstage. Your closest friends in the world surround you, either in the band or in your crew. From one side of the stage, a man approaches. Thinking he¹s a security guy or a drunk fan who¹s just a bit out a line, you continue to perform. Two seconds later, he lifts his arms, aims a rifle at your brother, your best friend, your buddy and blows his brains out, not three feet from where you are. In the nanosecond it takes you to comprehend the magnitude of what just happened, he does it again ...and again ...and again ...and again ...and again ...and again before taking aim and murdering additional members of your extended family as well as fans that have come to see you play. Two of your crew are shot but survive, but of course, will never be the same gain.

Now imagine it¹s a few years later and you turn on the TV set. Just in case you may be having at least a five minute respite from that scene that plays over and over in your head, just in case .....you flip through the channels and there it is. Again. Only with some two bit actor who thinks this is his big Hollywood break.

And please, if you don¹t like that scenario, make believe it¹s your child who got his brains splattered all over a stage in Ohio. And then you turn on E! Oh, the magic of television!

In case none of this appears clear enough and you need a definitive answer to your request...no. The answer if no, and on behalf of everyone that was there that night and everyone that misses him every day, you can take that no and shove it up your collective asses.

And, for your second request, yes, you can quote me on that.

Sincerely,
Jane Hoffman


Kick ass, Janie. Enjoy the rants. R.I.P. Dime.
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