I might be early!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 4, 2006, 3:43 pm

Well at least Dallas finally got to the finals! Phoenix has been there a couple times. You have to win it all to boast!

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » June 4, 2006, 3:59 pm

Winnow wrote:Well at least Dallas finally got to the finals! Phoenix has been there a couple times. You have to win it all to boast!

Not in this Decade!!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 9, 2006, 12:20 pm

Man...at least Phoenix won the first game on the Mav's home court!

Sweep?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 9, 2006, 1:55 pm

Winnow wrote:Man...at least Phoenix won the first game on the Mav's home court!

Sweep?

You are the very definition of "Fan"atic.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 12, 2006, 3:24 am

Good job Mavs. Give the East a beating!

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » June 12, 2006, 7:14 am

Winnow wrote:Good job Mavs. Give the East a beating!

Winnow I think we were right, The Western Conference Finals was The NBA Finals.

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » June 12, 2006, 12:26 pm

I'd say the semi's (Dallas v San Antonio) were the finals. Thankfully that won't be happening next year, or ever again.

4pt plays make me happy in the pants. Go Mavs!

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » June 16, 2006, 12:08 am

Well, it's not over yet, but it sure looks like this will wind up tied 2-2.

Hey Winnow, how many games did the Suns take from the Mavs again? Was it more than 2?

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » June 16, 2006, 12:55 am

shhh. winnow still has a shot at thinking the suns are actually the number 2 team. who am i joking, they will be the number 2 team whether or not the mavs actually win.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 16, 2006, 3:11 am

Enjoy the one game blow out. The Suns blew out the Mavs one game as well.

MAVERICKS 86 @ SUNS 106

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » June 16, 2006, 2:02 pm

Im not very happy with Dallas right now , When they were up 2-0 they should of shut up and play ball and for Cuban to come out and say the shit he did about Riley was uncalled for. Why wake a sleeping Tiger you had them dead in the water now its a best of 3 series. Damnit Damnit Damnit.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » June 16, 2006, 2:09 pm

D-Wade is over the flu he had when the series started too. Should have put the Heat away while he wasn't 100%.

valryte · Post by **valryte** » June 19, 2006, 1:39 am

3 - 2 BABY! Dumb Ass Josh Howard, I love ya man!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 19, 2006, 4:22 am

Each team is winning their homes games. It's a shame for Miami that the last two are in Dallas. : )

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » June 19, 2006, 7:41 am

Winnow wrote:Each team is winning their homes games. It's a shame for Miami that the last two are in Dallas. : )

I dont know Winnow as long as the NBA lets Miami Maul Dirk I think they will win. I have never seen such one sided officiating in my life.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » June 19, 2006, 9:43 am

I haven't had a chance to watch the games, is Wade playing as great as it seems from the stats?

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » June 19, 2006, 9:48 am

better

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » June 19, 2006, 10:02 am

Kelshara wrote:I haven't had a chance to watch the games, is Wade playing as great as it seems from the stats?

Wade looks unstoppable, In the last three games he is avg. 40pts of course the last game he had 21 trips to the frre throw line. I guess when you can drive the lane and push off of multiple people all night and night get called for a foul your as good as gold.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 19, 2006, 10:09 am

He's amazing to watch. He was struggling early, but with the Heat down by 9 at the end of the 3rd Qtr, he just made 5 quick pts and a dish to Posey for a 3, capping an 8-0 run to finish the 3rd.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » June 19, 2006, 7:45 pm

Each team is winning their homes games. It's a shame for Miami that the last two are in Dallas. : )

Even if Dallas comes back and wins, you can no longer spout your bullshit about the WCF being the 'real' finals. Dallas played 4 teams in the postseason this year, and you came in third place, behind Miami and San Antonio. Phoenix can be considered on par with San Antonio, Detroit and Cleveland this past season. And yes, if Miami wins I will very much enjoy going back and looking up all the pro-Western talk you've been spouting.

I haven't had a chance to watch the games, is Wade playing as great as it seems from the stats?

Yes. If they win the series, his will be one of the all-time great finals performances. Last night was amazing. He and Dirk traded big plays at the end of regulation and overtime. The game was a bit marred by the final sequence, though. First, Gary Payton hit an absolutely sick layup, tossing the ball off the very top of the glass and straight into the basket. Then Dirk drove right, got double teamed, and hit a fadeaway jumper just over the outstretched arm of Shaq, putting Dallas up 1. Wade got the ball, did a bunch of fancy dribbling, and got bailed out with a questionable foul call. It wasn't clearly a bad call, but it wasn't clearly a good call either. Wade made the two pressure free throws (props to him), but even the excitement there was marred by Josh Howard's mistake, which is unfortunate because it probably didn't make a bit of difference anyway. Sadly, a huge amount of the post-game coverage was devoted to the timeout call instead of the good game and incredible clutch play by both stars.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 19, 2006, 7:55 pm

Cart, if Dallas screws up this series I'll petition to have the Maverics booted out of the West!

Get your team back in gear!

Gonzoie - Luclin · Post by **Gonzoie - Luclin** » June 19, 2006, 11:47 pm

What a good fucking game 7 this has been! every minute has been intense, i haven't seen anything like this in a LONG time... wow.. i am utterly amazed at this game and its still on with 2:15 left!

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » June 19, 2006, 11:51 pm

Gonzoie - Luclin wrote:What a good fucking game 7 this has been! every minute has been intense, i haven't seen anything like this in a LONG time... wow.. i am utterly amazed at this game and its still on with 2:15 left!

Wrong sport/thread?

Gonzoie - Luclin · Post by **Gonzoie - Luclin** » June 19, 2006, 11:54 pm

yah, that was meant for the canes thread!

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » June 20, 2006, 8:09 am

Winnow wrote:Cart, if Dallas screws up this series I'll petition to have the Maverics booted out of the West!

Get your team back in gear!

Why boot the best team from the West?

But I think if the Heats MVP doesnt show up for the next 2 games Dallas is a lock for the championship. When I say the Heats MVP I mean the Refs.

valryte · Post by **valryte** » June 21, 2006, 1:03 am

HEAT WIN!!!!
HEAT WIN!!!!
HEAT WIN!!!!
HEAT WIN!!!!
HEAT WIN!!!!
HEAT WIN!!!!
HEAT WIN!!!!

Can't wait to see what crap those of you that kept brushing the Heat off have to say...

noel · Post by **noel** » June 21, 2006, 1:09 am

As I see it, the top four teams this year were:

1. Heat
2. Mavs
3. Spurs
4. Pistons

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » June 21, 2006, 2:20 am

1. Heat
2. Mavericks
3. Spurs
4. Pistons
5. Suns
6. Cavaliers
7. Clippers
8. Kings
9. Nets
10. Lakers
11. Wizards
12. Grizzlies
13. Nuggets
14. Pacers
15. Bulls
16. Bucks

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 21, 2006, 2:22 am

fuuuuuuuuu

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 21, 2006, 2:26 am

uuuuuuuuuuck!

Grats Heat fans.

I was way off on this one.

valryte · Post by **valryte** » June 21, 2006, 2:28 am

I was way off on this one.

Ain't that a fucking understatment...

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 21, 2006, 2:32 am

Woot! Great series. Great season. Best playoffs I've watched. Wade is teh man.

noel · Post by **noel** » June 21, 2006, 4:17 am

Sueven wrote:1. Heat
2. Mavericks
3. Spurs
4. Pistons
5. Suns
6. Cavaliers

Totally agree with your whole list. I stopped at 4 cause I couldn't justify the Cavs above the Suns.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » June 21, 2006, 8:14 am

Here is your Finals MVP and its not D Wade.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 21, 2006, 9:48 am

Cartalas wrote:Here is you Finals MVP and its not D Wade.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » June 21, 2006, 9:56 am

ive said it all year (just not on this board =/) but d-wade is better than lebron. grats miami on a well deserved win. though i do hope the mavs come back next year and win it.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » June 21, 2006, 10:09 am

Yeah im the only one saying it, Hell ABC couldnt even find footage of anyone fouling Wade on his phantom foul in game 5.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ons/060620

noel · Post by **noel** » June 21, 2006, 10:29 am

The Mavs did not play well last night, and as much as Mark Cuban would like you to believe it, the refs are NOT the reason why Dallas lost. They simply didn't play well, and they blew too many opportunities that allowed the Heat to stay in the games.

Dirk Nowitski practically disappeared once there was actually someone defending him and playing defense. He's a phenomenal player, but he has a ways to go before he's having an impact the way someone like Tim Duncan can. The good news for Dallas is that the future is brigther than it's ever been. Beating San Antonio was an amazing step for them, and I'll say right now that they're the team to beat in the West next year.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » June 21, 2006, 10:31 am

isnt there some old addage where if the refs take a game from you, you didnt deserve to win in the first place?

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » June 21, 2006, 10:46 am

Im not talking about game 6 as much as game 5 even though that foul on Dirk at the end was utter bullshit. When one player has more fouls then the whole team something is wrong. Oh well season is over and I can take a rest till football season. I bet Stern is smiling knowing he didnt have to hand that trophy to Cuban.

valryte · Post by **valryte** » June 21, 2006, 11:30 am

I'm sure the ref also kept Dirk from scoring too eh?...

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » June 21, 2006, 11:39 am

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Dirk is overrated.

noel · Post by **noel** » June 21, 2006, 11:51 am

Kelshara wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again: Dirk is overrated.

Dirk was never overrated until he played the Suns.

Hell, the Suns made Kwame Brown look good in a few games!

Edit: I'm probably unfairly poking fun at Winnow. I think what the Suns did this year was pretty amazing given their injury situations. I also think that if Amare hadn't gotten injured, the Suns would have likely walked away with the Championship this year.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 21, 2006, 12:39 pm

The past two years, the Suns couldn't afford any injuries but last year Joe Johnson (faceplant vs Dallas in Semi Finals) and this year Raja Bell (calf muscle in semi finals) pretty much wrapped up the Suns's season even though both times they managed to advance to the WCF after those key injuries.

The Suns 6-7 man rotations need to be 8-9 man rotations to keep the players healthy and rested into the 4th. Too many times I've seen the Suns just blow the doors off teams in the first half only to slowly lose the lead.

Extending Diaw and Barbosa, Amare's return, if at least 80% of what he was, and picking up a decent PG in the draft should put the Suns at the top of the list, at least for the preseason expectations. I don't think that will surprise anyone. Of course, we could see some big trade in the NBA that could alter things.

Wade should be #1 on the short list for MVP candidates next year.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » June 21, 2006, 12:49 pm

valryte wrote:I'm sure the ref also kept Dirk from scoring too eh?...

Scoring was not an Issue other players steped up to score but when your team gets 30 pts on free throws something or someone is biased.

Kelgar · Post by **Kelgar** » June 21, 2006, 1:03 pm

Getting to the free throw line a lot that means your team gets more of its points from the paint and tends to draw more contact. Terry/Nowitski vs Wade/Shaq is a no contest in terms of which duo attacks the basket more.

noel · Post by **noel** » June 21, 2006, 1:29 pm

Did Nowitski even cross the three point line once in the fourth quarter? If you want fouls, don't you have to take it to the hole?

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » June 21, 2006, 1:43 pm

Oh well I guess its over done with, Time to move on. Time to look ahead to next season and rest assured Miami will not be there next year. As Noel said Dallas can improve, They are young and talented they will be back. Miami is a lot older they are real close to rebuilding. Miami has one thing going for them is that as long as D-Wade keeps getting treated like the 2nd comming of Jordan ( Which is a huge insult to Jordan), Stern will make sure his precious gets the calls.

noel · Post by **noel** » June 21, 2006, 1:55 pm

Cartalas wrote:Oh well I guess its over done with, Time to move on. Time to look ahead to next season and rest assured Miami will not be there next year. As Noel said Dallas can improve, They are young and talented they will be back. Miami is a lot older they are real close to rebuilding. Miami has one thing going for them is that as long as D-Wade keeps getting treated like the 2nd comming of Jordan ( Which is a huge insult to Jordan), Stern will make sure his precious gets the calls.

Totally. Lets not kid ourselves. Shaq is on crack if he really thinks he's getting a fifth ring. He wouldn't have a fourth ring if it weren't for the fact that his backup, Mourning, kicked fucking ass. Shaq looked fantastic quite a few times during the ECF and Finals, but I don't think you could find a person on the planet that doesn't think he's on a slippery downhill slope.

Dallas will be great next year. Look for next year's final four in the West to be Dallas, Phoenix, San Antonio, and some other team not named Denver ('Melo is by far the most overrated player in the NBA). Dallas is young and has nothing but upside. As much as I cannot stand Monobrow Cuban, he cares a great deal about his team and he's willing to do whatever he can to help them win. AJ will learn from this (there were some huge coaching mistakes made in last night's game) and he'll be better for it.

Finally, Wade is awesome, but if I were building a team from scratch, I'd take Lebron first before Wade every single time. Any comparisons between Jordan and Wade, Jordan and Kobe, or Jordan and Lebron are being made by people who either have shitty memories, or were too fucking young to see Jordan play.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » June 21, 2006, 2:01 pm

I don't think it is wrong to compare LeBron/Wade/Kobe to Jordan at all. But you have to compare them to where Jordan was at the same point in his career. You can't compare let's say LeBron now to Jordan at his best.