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Sylvos, I agree with you. I think Vietnam was one of the worse things the United States has done in its history only behind slavery and not actually having equal rights and child labor before TR. If we never went in there maybe my Cambodian friends would still be fine in there own country(but maybe not), because it only created more hatred..more weapons and the momentum for genocide.
That war destroyed multiple generations on both sides and created much more blood lust than it was suppose to prevent in the long run. On a side note though if your going to do a war it should be to win at all cost. We completely fucked up on the government end on every scale dealing with that war.
About the website I posted I liked it because it gave a time-line of vietnam from about 200C of that region. Not just the war in vietnam. It showed civil war and internal conflicts in that region for centuries(not in most history books). I say Let them deal with it, unless it becomes genocide. Then the UN SHOULD step in (Rwanda). Vietnam had no national security interest at all to the US till we started fiddleing with the shit and sending our troops there.
Just the wars they had in that region from 1800:
Cambodian Rebellion 1811-12
Laotion Rebellion 1826-29
Siamese-Cambodian War 1831-34
Siamese-Vietnamese War 1841-45
Franco-Vietnamese War 1851-57
French Indochina War 1858-63
French Indochina War 1873-74
French Indochina War 1882-83
Yen Bai Uprising in French Indochina 1930-31
World War II 1939-45
French Indochina War 1946-54 Viet Minh Incursion: Cambodia 1954
Buddhist Rebellion in South Vietnam 1955
Viet Cong Insurgency 1956-65
South Vietnamese Military Revolt 1960
South Vietnamese Military Coup 1963
Gulf of Tonkin Incident 1964
Military Coup: South Vietnam 1965
Kampuchean Intervention 1978-91
Sino-Vietnamese War 1979
Vietnamese Raids: Thailand 1979-88
I put a website up so I guess should say my viewpoint of vietnam....So you dont get the wrong view of me trying to actually justify Vietnam, because well Im a conservative right winger too. I was just putting up a observation of how that War caused more than just the Vietnam war we had and ended up with a genocide in another country Cambodia.Hi, I'm a conservative "right-winger" and guess what...I'm gonna go ahead and flat out say if you think that Vietnam was a justified war, then you're a fucking idiot. We had NO business there, why do I say that? I look at my dad who is now in his late 50's and who served as a Green Beret during that conflict. He's got four purple hearts and various other medals of valor for his time and his bodycount during the Vietnam Conflict. That entire scenerio not only maimed and halfway obliterated an entire generation of American men but it is one of the most gruesome, attrocious wars America has ever fought and LOST. Not because our team didn't beat the bad guy, but because our team had more losses in the end. I am going to make myself sick after I type this but I .....agree.....with......jice....about you "right wingers" wanting to rewrite history to justify the means. It's not going work, I'm just glad my father didn't turn into a statistic loss like the tens of thousands of other American young men did during that time. You guys should try actually reading a history book instead of googling a website about Vietnam, might help you sound a bit smarter and more credible. I can go and write up a very very convincing website about how America was very justified in going into battle in Vietnam and even fabricate all sorts of "credible" reasons, but in the end we'd know I was full of shit as soon as you actually read a book and knew your history. Anyway, everyone nowadays is an authority on everything thx google, making philosophers out of farmers and theologins out of ditch diggers. Formal education just isn't what it used to be I guess.
Sylvos, I agree with you. I think Vietnam was one of the worse things the United States has done in its history only behind slavery and not actually having equal rights and child labor before TR. If we never went in there maybe my Cambodian friends would still be fine in there own country(but maybe not), because it only created more hatred..more weapons and the momentum for genocide.
That war destroyed multiple generations on both sides and created much more blood lust than it was suppose to prevent in the long run. On a side note though if your going to do a war it should be to win at all cost. We completely fucked up on the government end on every scale dealing with that war.
About the website I posted I liked it because it gave a time-line of vietnam from about 200C of that region. Not just the war in vietnam. It showed civil war and internal conflicts in that region for centuries(not in most history books). I say Let them deal with it, unless it becomes genocide. Then the UN SHOULD step in (Rwanda). Vietnam had no national security interest at all to the US till we started fiddleing with the shit and sending our troops there.
Just the wars they had in that region from 1800:
Cambodian Rebellion 1811-12
Laotion Rebellion 1826-29
Siamese-Cambodian War 1831-34
Siamese-Vietnamese War 1841-45
Franco-Vietnamese War 1851-57
French Indochina War 1858-63
French Indochina War 1873-74
French Indochina War 1882-83
Yen Bai Uprising in French Indochina 1930-31
World War II 1939-45
French Indochina War 1946-54 Viet Minh Incursion: Cambodia 1954
Buddhist Rebellion in South Vietnam 1955
Viet Cong Insurgency 1956-65
South Vietnamese Military Revolt 1960
South Vietnamese Military Coup 1963
Gulf of Tonkin Incident 1964
Military Coup: South Vietnam 1965
Kampuchean Intervention 1978-91
Sino-Vietnamese War 1979
Vietnamese Raids: Thailand 1979-88
CRY HAVOC...........AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR!!!!!
Hey you salad tossee of a domesticated housecat. Chow Yun Fat is Chinese, not Vietnamese. That makes him a chink, not a gook. Get your slurs right, boy.Sylvos wrote: God, what is happening to me, Yes Kyoukan is also right. Vietnam also made good old whitey replace the Niggers with the Gooks as the hated race. It's always good to see good ole Whitey stop beatin poor Uncle Tom to go kick the shit out of Chow Yun Fat and his brother Sum Yung Guy. Then again nowadays we've got good ole American White Man to point his anger at dem damn Arabs and der Sand Nigger kin. Nuke em! Turn em all to glass! Put in a Wal-mart and a SAMS Club! We'll westernize them non-christian heathens yet!
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Kelgar wrote:Hey you salad tossee of a domesticated housecat. Chow Yun Fat is Chinese, not Vietnamese. That makes him a chink, not a gook. Get your slurs right, boy.Sylvos wrote: God, what is happening to me, Yes Kyoukan is also right. Vietnam also made good old whitey replace the Niggers with the Gooks as the hated race. It's always good to see good ole Whitey stop beatin poor Uncle Tom to go kick the shit out of Chow Yun Fat and his brother Sum Yung Guy. Then again nowadays we've got good ole American White Man to point his anger at dem damn Arabs and der Sand Nigger kin. Nuke em! Turn em all to glass! Put in a Wal-mart and a SAMS Club! We'll westernize them non-christian heathens yet!
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