Thanks Drinsic.

Gurugurumaki · Post by **Gurugurumaki** » March 28, 2003, 4:42 pm

miir wrote: There will be no retaliation by any Farstorm member.
Farstorm's reputation will not be sullied by a few individuals who seem to have some deep seeded personal issues with Drinsic.

Oh no, they will pay the piper for this one~

Balek · Post by **Balek** » March 28, 2003, 4:48 pm

I don't remember much of any OOC going on untill after the AoW kill. I was lead cleric at the raid though so I could have missed stuff while I was typing out cleric orders.

I don't know who was there first in force, however I do know we had force for statue LONG before statue arrived in camp, as did FS im sure.

I cannot dispute the fact Tarrus trained you, like I said earlier I was in the PE/LoV camp.

However,
Was statue up when you guys started clearing for him? Cause if you guys were there first in force, why didnt you engage Vindi to pop statue? Kinda pointless to clear to a mob that isn't up isn't it?

Gurugurumaki · Post by **Gurugurumaki** » March 28, 2003, 4:51 pm

Balek wrote:I don't remember much of any OOC going on untill after the AoW kill. I was lead cleric at the raid though so I could have missed stuff while I was typing out cleric orders.

I don't know who was there first in force, however I do know we had force for statue LONG before statue arrived in camp, as did FS im sure.

I cannot dispute the fact Tarrus trained you, like I said earlier I was in the PE/LoV camp.

However,
Was statue up when you guys started clearing for him? Cause if you guys were there first in force, why didnt you engage Vindi to pop statue? Kinda pointless to clear to a mob that isn't up isn't it?

Armor pharming>and thread pharming too

Fovol · Post by **Fovol** » March 28, 2003, 4:54 pm

Well, considering Drinsic got many guild invites during the time he was guildless, were the guilds that you blackballed him from the same guilds that shout in Dreadlands that they're recruiting, and you must be higher than level 30 to join?

Sirton, I misworded my statement, what I meant is that LoV as a whole is angry at us for beating them to a spawn. Was in a rush since I hungry and was wantin' to go grab some lunch.

What was done was sad, and to be honest most guilds told me after he did that NO WAY IN HELL theyll let him in there guild and they had there own stories about him too.

<Insert level 45 average guild name here> is probably just angry because he KS'd AC from them.

Kylere, what exactly are you saying Tarrus is better than people in? Dueling? That's odd, I beat him with 70%+ HP left. Drinsic beats him without getting hit (although, I guess Drinsic and I could be better than 99% also, but then that would defeat the purpose of your arguement, I think). Attitude? I hope not, Cobs acts more mature than this guy (Tarrus called off a raid because he lost a duel). Equipment? Obviously not.

Drudge, though, I agree with you on. Drudge is one of the nicest people I've met. Some people say they've had bad run-ins with him, but he's been nothing but kind to me (i.e., running across 30 zones to res me). Back in the day, I'd have to say he was probably one of the top 5 or 10 clerics on the server (not sure about now, I haven't interacted with him in awhile, but people don't suddenly lose skill, so I'd say he's still got it).

Again, Sirton, I appologize for the misinformation.

Drinsic isn't as bad as you make him out to be. You wouldn't even had know about what he did except that he openly admitted and appologized about it. He realized his mistake and left the guild. Maybe some guilds don't want him to be a part of them, but there are just as many more that would invite him in an instant. What he did wasn't blasphemy or anything, all he did was mess around with some titles on message boards. You're free to think what you want, but don't use words with such a negative connotation, such as hacker, when this is blantantly wrong.

Fovol · Post by **Fovol** » March 28, 2003, 4:58 pm

Balek wrote:I don't remember much of any OOC going on untill after the AoW kill. I was lead cleric at the raid though so I could have missed stuff while I was typing out cleric orders.

I don't know who was there first in force, however I do know we had force for statue LONG before statue arrived in camp, as did FS im sure.

I cannot dispute the fact Tarrus trained you, like I said earlier I was in the PE/LoV camp.

However,
Was statue up when you guys started clearing for him? Cause if you guys were there first in force, why didnt you engage Vindi to pop statue? Kinda pointless to clear to a mob that isn't up isn't it?

Because we were clearing still. We were clearing everything in the surrounding area because this was our first attempt at AoW and we didn't want possible adds. Therefore, we had more to clear than you guys did with your raid force with 20+ more than us (i.e., you guys could handle a few adds that would have been devastating to us). Plus, we were also trying to get in touch with your leadership to see what you guys were doing. I'm not sure if this connection was ever made.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » March 28, 2003, 4:59 pm

Fovol 90% of the people that play EQ are not worth the time of day. So eliminating them, it makes it easy for the few remaining to score highly. Hell Kyoukan even rates 91% and barring a grudge over some stuff it was wrong about YEARS ago, in a game it no longer plays, would have pulled a 95.

Tarrus is cocky, and has great skills, he has an uneven temper, and is decently loyal to his guild, he will run across the entire game world to help a friend, and do the same to slap an enemy.

Now duelling? Bah as a middling 50's mage I owned him and Frotto in the Arena.

Fovol · Post by **Fovol** » March 28, 2003, 5:00 pm

Err, missed your question, heh. Yes, Statue was up, I spotted him and called us in, Soes asked me if we were doing Vindi (I said no, of course)once we had about 25 people in the zone, then that's when you guys started showing up.

Swoned · Post by **Swoned** » March 28, 2003, 5:00 pm

You cannot "pop" statue because he isn't linked to Vindi's death at all and both vindi and statue can be up at the same time.

Despite that Sleestakk says he can spawn statue, it's really not possible.

Fovol · Post by **Fovol** » March 28, 2003, 5:02 pm

Kylere wrote:Fovol 90% of the people that play EQ are not worth the time of day. So eliminating them, it makes it easy for the few remaining to score highly. Hell Kyoukan even rates 91% and barring a grudge over some stuff it was wrong about YEARS ago, in a game it no longer plays, would have pulled a 95.

Tarrus is cocky, and has great skills, he has an uneven temper, and is decently loyal to his guild, he will run across the entire game world to help a friend, and do the same to slap an enemy.

Now duelling? Bah as a middling 50's mage I owned him and Frotto in the Arena.

Hmm, good point. Now that you put it that way, I concur (the Kyoukan reference definately was your substantiating evidence).

Fovol · Post by **Fovol** » March 28, 2003, 5:03 pm

Swoned wrote:You cannot "pop" statue because he isn't linked to Vindi's death at all and both vindi and statue can be up at the same time.

Despite that Sleestakk says he can spawn statue, it's really not possible.

Are you serious?!!?! It isn't possible?!!11 I've been lied to!! Fyllot told me all I had to do was strip off all my armor and run around Kael uninvis for 30 minutes while snared and making sure to agro every giant on the way, and that would spawn Statue!! Fyllot, you're going down!

Sirton · Post by **Sirton** » March 28, 2003, 5:14 pm

Fovol,
What happened may look that way to you, but to some of his other friends it looked about the same it does to me. Each to our own opinion. I guess Im just not surprised his name being mentioned in the middle of this conflict. I wasnt at the raid....
I do know this is normally true,

Veeshan has long lived by the 'first in force' rules which the LOV raid did not abide by in this situation.

Was started between FoH and CT on Naggy, Vox and fear.

Fovol · Post by **Fovol** » March 28, 2003, 5:25 pm

Really wasn't Drinsic included in the decisions at this raid. He happened to be leading it at first, but once all of the commotion started, Resurrector took over. I think it was just that Cracc wasn't clear over who gave the orders at the raid to pull Idol/AoW and so forth (not a deroggatory comment towards you, Cracc). But I see your point. There is a lot of tension between the two parties so his name will undoubtedly come up when possible in an attempt by either side to tarnish the other's reputation. This time it was you guys, but who knows, maybe a month down the road we'll be posting how you guys rolled us or something, heh.

I respect your ability to see both sides of the arguement, though, Sirton. I don't think I'm doing much of a good job doing it myself, and it is very hard to do because why would you be arguing if you didn't just know that you were right?

masteen · Post by **masteen** » March 28, 2003, 5:44 pm

Kylere wrote:Hell Kyoukan even rates 91% and barring a grudge over some stuff it was wrong about YEARS ago, in a game it no longer plays, would have pulled a 95.

You don't refer to breasts as "Satan's pillows," or have a small "precious" dog, do ya?

Ransure · Post by **Ransure** » March 28, 2003, 5:59 pm

Coraz wrote:Anyone else want to tell a story of being trained by PE?

Once in an old guild, PE couldn't stand us getting a mob before us, so they actually managed to mem blur KS the IV, ninja the loots and then sent one of their bards to train on us, then train again while CRing.. go figure.

Plus training on us tonight.

Ha, you fucking idiot. I was the one that negotiated with Jice and the GM's for our little IV event.... it was determined that everyone would engage and whoever got the kill, got it.... Unfortunately, when IV fell, we had no chanters left alive... it was your chanter (read Corps) that was frantically trying to blur the mob...

As for PE training people.... well. As the most feared trainer on the server... me wearing the PE tag for a while would probobly make people think that they are a guild of trainers....

Unfortunately there is no one that currently wears the PE tag that is a competent trainer, so if they are in fact training people on raids Im sure its a weak pitifull attempt, rather than a real train of death.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » March 28, 2003, 6:17 pm

so a GM said, just both guilds kill, and whoever does the most damage gets the loots?

that is the dumbest GM ruling i've ever heard LOL

Gurugurumaki · Post by **Gurugurumaki** » March 28, 2003, 6:18 pm

Voronwë wrote:so a GM said, just both guilds kill, and whoever does the most damage gets the loots?

that is the dumbest GM ruling i've ever heard LOL

Well what else would those dumbers fokers say~

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » March 28, 2003, 6:33 pm

Actually the ragefire one where the GM said "Oh well I made you all /rand and the loser refuses to leave. I know I will spawn rage for everyone"

Good that it finally change the nightmare of the cleric epic, but a straight out bone job.

Coraz · Post by **Coraz** » March 28, 2003, 7:14 pm

devereaux wrote:Civil Rune of War conflict? I was retired at the time, somebody was 2 boxing me. I have an idea, why don't you go back to your old name Council, Anvil, whoeverthefuckyouwere, and pretend this didn't even happen like you're always told to do by Resurrectum when you fuck up other people's raids.

Wow, you have shitty ideas! Never post again! You lose life!

miir wrote:
Cracc wrote:Several guildmembers bragging about traning in ooc? You seem to be adding more and more nonsense with each post to the ordeal.
So you dispute that point but you don't deny any of the others?

Haha owned!

Ransure wrote: As for PE training people.... well. As the most feared trainer on the server... me wearing the PE tag for a while would probobly make people think that they are a guild of trainers....

Unfortunately there is no one that currently wears the PE tag that is a competent trainer, so if they are in fact training people on raids Im sure its a weak pitifull attempt, rather than a real train of death.

Hey gimpsauce I didn't ask for your crap -- besides Grayeyes is the one that trained us, nice lie... well at least that's what Jice said. So... one of you

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » March 28, 2003, 7:32 pm

people-

this thread sucks. i'm very disappointed.

in 30 minutes i am going to click on it again, get your fucking acts together. Starting with you Coraz, the above post is dreadful.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » March 28, 2003, 8:04 pm

Don't drag me into this PEnis LoV vs Farstorm crap over shit that happened a year ago (not to mention the bulk of the PE present aren't even IN PE anymore, Like Ebay-Looteyes). And Penis Exitass's record of training people and rolling extends well into the present, just ask Infinite Odyssey how they feel about Zlandicar.

Farstorm may have some dicks, but I've never seen them roll someone without giving them a timely shot at the mob, and if I were them I would train you pre-emtively from now on whenever I saw you stroll in.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » March 28, 2003, 8:06 pm

hay jice

Coraz · Post by **Coraz** » March 28, 2003, 8:12 pm

Jice just owned everyone, Voronwë go suck a dick~

That post was like an AE STFU lure Jice.

tendaven · Post by **tendaven** » March 28, 2003, 8:13 pm

Well, I was there and was rather amazed at the events that happened. I did come a bit late after both parties had significant force to do whatever they wanted.

I didn't know what Farstorm was doing there in force because I thought it was clear what we were doing. After /tell'ing a few people trying to figure it out I finally just gave up and we continued on what we were doing.

First step of AoW is always kill vindi/statue to spawn the Idol. Feeling pressured and rushed, we pulled vindi and his guards at the same time ... I know for a fact we were specifically staying away from training anyone purposely because all of the officers of LoV would rather not cause any of these stupid problems that just happened anyways. However, I do see how Farstorm could have easily of gotten aggro do to the position of their camp. If our monk pulled and FD the mobs heading back to the temple would have aggro'd on them due to position.

With that in mind, I was watching Tarrus most of raid and never saw him train anyone. I'm almost positive that was a blame that was placed on him from certain individuals of Farstorm who despise him and just wanted to stir up trouble. No names...

In any event, we kill vindi and pull statue.. I believe Brutaal was the monk who did it.. I watched him have aggro and run back to our camp where someone from Farstorm tried to steal statue aggro off us. I quickly regained aggro and brought statue back to our camp where we killed him.

1) Statue was pulled by us
2) Farstorm tried to steal aggro (a similar action as what happens later)
3) I retrieve aggro
4) We kill Statue and SPAWN IDOL

As we're looting Farstorm then pulls Idol! At this point I was wondering WTF was going on because we clearly got the pull and kill on Statue which is the beginning of the chain to kill AoW.

Okay, so what... we weren't going to make too big of a deal about this because we just wanted what we came for.. AoW...

Idol dies.. our monk (Raxton) is laying FD next to where AoW pops so we're sure to get aggro first and pull what we initially setup for.

Raxton pulls AoW (confirmed) and someone from Farstorm AGAIN steals our aggro (just like on Statue mind you). I guess I'm a bit mistaken on regular etiquette of the game but I have always thought whoever engages first is entitled to the mob.

Of course, there will be those in the game who don't respect the rules and do whatever they want anyways. I just honestly didn't think Farstorm was one to do that... I've always respected Farstorm and have had no bad encounters with them in the past... but I think this whole thing was just ridiculous.

Those of you who know me know that I'm not one to stir trouble but to try and bring some type of resolve to it (unless I'm drunk then you're getting bitched at -- ask my gf she knows all about it

). This matter is definetely done and over with and I don't see the point of sitting here arguing back and forth about what this person thinks happened and what that person thinks.... If Farstorm has chosen to "go down this road" of rolling then I'm shocked because I thought I would never see the day... If this was just a communication error of two guilds rushing to get what they think is rightfully theirs then I can understand what happened... But would hope in the future it's a bit more civil.

The fact is, this is a game folks... We're all playing the same one... Mobs will die.. and will pop again.. no big deal... who cares?

The only thing I would ask, if something like this comes up again in the future, is for both parties involved to try and conduct themselves a little bit more appropriately. Again, if Farstorm has made the decision they don't care what others think about them as long as they get the kill -- then so be it I guess...

for those of you who like to just sit around and stir up trouble.. u just need to stfu and play... it shouldn't be too much to ask to act your age.. leave LoV alone.. we've never done anything to you so stop accusing us of things based on your personal vendettas with individual members...

Judge individuals.. not guilds.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » March 28, 2003, 8:13 pm

Coraz wrote:Jice just owned everyone, Voronwë go suck a dick~

you are stupid

Fovol · Post by **Fovol** » March 28, 2003, 8:27 pm

No, Tarrus admitted to training. Although, he claims it was an accident, and that a mob "saw through invis". That's impossible of course, since with Shroud of Stealth nothing can see you (atleast that spawn cycle, I'd been walking around Kael all day).

And we were there in force well before you guys, heh, clearing Arena and such.

And "Leave LoV alone"? Look at the starter of this thread. It wasn't us. We're defending ourselves. Even PE (according to Atokal) agrees that it was Farstorm's mob. Obviously, since even your own allies are disagreeing with you then you were at fault, not us.

cid · Post by **cid** » March 28, 2003, 8:27 pm

Jice Virago wrote:Don't drag me into this PEnis LoV vs Farstorm crap over shit that happened a year ago (not to mention the bulk of the PE present aren't even IN PE anymore, Like Ebay-Looteyes). And Penis Exitass's record of training people and rolling extends well into the present, just ask Infinite Odyssey how they feel about Zlandicar.

Farstorm may have some dicks, but I've never seen them roll someone without giving them a timely shot at the mob, and if I were them I would train you pre-emtively from now on whenever I saw you stroll in.

You tried this for a bit, but you dont have the fucking balls to back it up bitch.

Hugs and kisses fuckstain

Coraz · Post by **Coraz** » March 28, 2003, 8:28 pm

Your mom teach you that one?

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » March 28, 2003, 8:37 pm

Tend, there are several errors in your post. I've always known you for a friend, not sure if you still consider me one or not but either way-

Anyways, yes, we were there in force first. We had 50 ( 25 FS + 25 FC ) at the time we were clearing to statue. Then Tarrus ( look, this is not a grudge, it's called 80 percent of our guild watching it with our very eyes, little red n black hobbit rogue with the name Tarrus above his head ) trained 6 - 8 mobs, including protectors. He then ADMITTED to training us, and one of your members laughed at our GL asking "was the train big enough?" The train was intentional. And we were not in the way of mobs' pathing. So then LoV kills statue and pops idol.

Well, since you guys had the joy of ninja-pulling our mob while we were in the process of clearing to it and furthermore, being trained by your Virtuous officer Tarrus, we decided to finish what was ours to begin with.

While we were fighting Idol, Lotsa and I were watching AoW spawn point with Raxton FD beside us. I don't know where you get your confirmation, but it's false. Raxton was well out of AoW intial aggro range and I hit Cinder Jolt ( 1.5 cast time ) well before he even stood up. First to aggro was me. 2nd to aggro was Raxton, trying to steal my pull. Third to aggro was Jasarsis, who was with us.

Anyways, we killed what was ours. Sorry to say it, but I fail to respect any guild that resorts to tactics such as intentional training and ninja-pulling.

Prettyevil · Post by **Prettyevil** » March 28, 2003, 8:37 pm

Cracc.....

Your post just got totally denutted. Give me a tell in game and i'll get Fovol to give you ur balls back.

Who doesn't know Prettyevil? >

Prettyevil · Post by **Prettyevil** » March 28, 2003, 8:52 pm

Your posts? I'm sorry your whole entire thread.

YAnadin · Post by **YAnadin** » March 28, 2003, 8:54 pm

/rofl Ten Good one...

While i hate LoV and farstorm.. this is just funny

darthan · Post by **darthan** » March 28, 2003, 8:57 pm

You guys loot Statue like babies then, was watchin Idol for 15+ mins after waitin 5 mins to even begin looking...
just wanted to add a comment about that
oh ya
/rofl
you're info is so wrong, its comical
keep it up!

YAnadin · Post by **YAnadin** » March 28, 2003, 9:03 pm

BAck again.... I have a request.. Can PE OR LoV kill AoW alone next time.. i am sick of this Plove or Lovpe crap.. If u wanna partner up make 1 guild... Untill yall become self dependant shut your holes... KTHXBYE

o BTW FIENDCLUB ROXOR!!!!!

cid · Post by **cid** » March 28, 2003, 9:07 pm

YAnadin wrote:BAck again.... I have a request.. Can PE OR LoV kill AoW alone next time.. i am sick of this Plove or Lovpe crap.. If u wanna partner up make 1 guild... Untill yall become self dependant shut your holes... KTHXBYE

o BTW FIENDCLUB ROXOR!!!!!

Fuck off

Fesuni Chopsui · Post by **Fesuni Chopsui** » March 28, 2003, 9:09 pm

Yanadin if you're, obviously, in Fiend Club - why is it exactly that you "hate Farstorm"?

One other thing...considering you yourself aren't guilded, may I ask exactly who are you to question what guilds do with eachother or not? Or is this because you applied to PE and almost every member vetoed you? Ya that must be it. Next time go gurgle some of your daddy's cum for a bit longer before posting here, shit stain.

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » March 28, 2003, 9:10 pm

YAnadin wrote:/rofl Ten Good one...

While i hate LoV and farstorm.. this is just funny

And just when you thought this thread couldn't get any worse, along comes Yanadin to prove that wrong. Good job!

Fesuni Chopsui · Post by **Fesuni Chopsui** » March 28, 2003, 9:10 pm

Oh and JACKASS!

Fovol · Post by **Fovol** » March 28, 2003, 9:11 pm

FiendClub and Farstorm aren't affiliated except that we did AoW together. Yanadin does hate Farstorm, heh, he didn't want to come to the raid solely because Farstorm was there.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 9:12 pm

screw it.. pointless discussing this now that Yanadin is involved.

Fesuni Chopsui · Post by **Fesuni Chopsui** » March 28, 2003, 9:13 pm

Thanks for clearing it up Fovol - I was under the impression the two were pretty closely affiliated if not together quite often...

YAnadin · Post by **YAnadin** » March 28, 2003, 9:15 pm

HEY fesuni i am in FC but farstorm doesnt lead it.. IN FACT i have Farstorm on my ignore list RIGHT DRINSIC.. VAlhall leads FC And VALHALL ROXOR.. now as for pe... they shouldnt be aloud to raid...

I ROX!

Fovol · Post by **Fovol** » March 28, 2003, 9:15 pm

Fesuni Chopsui wrote:Thanks for clearing it up Fovol - I was under the impression the two were pretty closely affiliated if not together quite often...

Nah, this is the first raid we've ever done together. The misconception probably came because there are a few Farstorm that are members of FiendClub, therefore creating the illusion that we raid together often.

Fesuni Chopsui · Post by **Fesuni Chopsui** » March 28, 2003, 9:16 pm

YAnadin wrote:HEY fesuni i am in FC but farstorm doesnt lead it.. IN FACT i have Farstorm on my ignore list RIGHT DRINSIC.. VAlhall leads FC And VALHALL ROXOR.. now as for pe... they shouldnt be aloud to raid...

I ROX!

1-800-ABCDEF...they can help you buddy

YAnadin · Post by **YAnadin** » March 28, 2003, 9:19 pm

I think u mean 1-800-ABCdefg Its gotta be 7 letters... another reason PE should be aloud to raid.. stupid

PRO VANNOR

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 9:21 pm

YAnadin wrote:I think u mean 1-800-ABCdefg Its gotta be 7 letters... another reason PE should be aloud to raid.. stupid

a·loud
adv.
With use of the voice; orally: Read this passage aloud

cid · Post by **cid** » March 28, 2003, 9:22 pm

YAnadin wrote:I think u mean 1-800-ABCdefg Its gotta be 7 letters... another reason PE should be aloud to raid.. stupid

PRO VANNOR

I still have your emails, begging to join PE. Promising you would change. Keep this shit up and I will post them.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 9:23 pm

Post 'em anyway Cid.

I think we all could use a good laugh.

Sparck · Post by **Sparck** » March 28, 2003, 9:24 pm

YAnadin wrote:I think u mean 1-800-ABCdefg Its gotta be 7 letters... another reason PE should be aloud to raid.. stupid

Speaking of stupid........

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » March 28, 2003, 9:24 pm

miir wrote:Post 'em anyway Cid.

I think we all could use a good laugh.

Please!

Fesuni Chopsui · Post by **Fesuni Chopsui** » March 28, 2003, 9:24 pm

Do you speaka engrish Yanadin or some retarded version of it that only gimps that cannot type ledgibly speak? You want to "pwn" me? Learn how to type for starters....you cannot even try and flame someone unless you know how to fucking spell Flame - go back and get on special bus, retard.

VeeshanVault

Thanks Drinsic.

HAHAHAHAHA

?me?

Re: ?me?

Re: HAHAHAHAHA

Fesuni sucks

Re: Fesuni sucks

umm ok

Re: umm ok

Re: umm ok

Re: umm ok