Kaldaur wrote:Lol...I gotcha now, so it randomly puts words together? I thought that was some rant from a Coulter Clone.
Not really random words, random nonsensicle complaints would be it.
Kaldaur wrote:Lol...I gotcha now, so it randomly puts words together? I thought that was some rant from a Coulter Clone.
Love you too baby... Kiss kiss.Xatrei wrote:I would rather discuss the merits / flaws of neoliberal economics or the benefits / costs of climate change inaction with Mid, Funk and Fash than talk about anything with this supertard Noysy. Jesus fucking Christ what a useless shitcock.
That is all.
Ah, but did he both reject *and* denounce it?Sueven wrote:It also gave us a chance to see whether Obama would support or reject the hanging of a Che flag in his offices (answer: reject).
Traz-KOE wrote:Ah, but did he both reject *and* denounce it?Sueven wrote:It also gave us a chance to see whether Obama would support or reject the hanging of a Che flag in his offices (answer: reject).
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Traz-KOE wrote:Ah, but did he both reject *and* denounce it?Sueven wrote:It also gave us a chance to see whether Obama would support or reject the hanging of a Che flag in his offices (answer: reject).
HAHAHAHAHAHA
That's awesome.
More recently, watch the video.Barack Obama Preaches to Faithful at Nearly Full Megachurch
Sunday , October 07, 2007
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GREENVILLE, S.C. —
White House hopeful Barack Obama stood in front of a pulpit Sunday and told worshippers that his faith "plays every role" in his life.
"It's what keeps me grounded. It's what keeps my eyes set on the greatest of heights," Obama told members of the Redemption World Outreach Center, whose 4,200-seat sanctuary was mostly full.
Faith, he said, is "what propels me to do what I do and when I am down it's what lifts me up." The Democratic presidential candidate said God "is with us and he wants us to do the right thing," including breaking down the divisions between Democrats and Republicans and among religions.
When people work together, he said, there is "nothing that can stop us because that's God's intention."
The Illinois senator is a member of the United Church of Christ, a church of about 1.2 million members that is considered one the most liberal of the mainline Protestant groups.
The service at the center, founded by an International Pentecostal Holiness Church minister, had members on their feet much of the time singing, swaying and raising their hands. Thumping, rock-concert loud music played from a pulpit sometimes awash with fog and filled with a band and choir.
Obama asked the church's members to pray for him and his family. "Sometimes this is a tough role, being in politics. ... Sometimes you can become fearful. Sometimes you become vain and sometimes you will seek power just for power's sake," he said.
Obama told the audience that people ask him, "`What role does faith play?' I say, 'It plays every role."'
Last week, Obama attended services at a black Baptist church in West Columbia and a white Baptist church a few miles away in Columbia.
His campaign is in the midst of what it calls "40 Days of Faith & Family" — an effort to introduce early voting South Carolina to how Obama's family life and faith have shaped his values.
In an interview with The Associated Press last week, Obama was asked about walking the line where politics and the pulpit meet.
"There are no set guidelines or play book. When I go to church, I go there to worship. I am perfectly content to sit and listen to the music and pray and listen to the sermon," Obama said after last weekend's church services.
Other times — such as this Sunday — Obama takes to the pulpit.
In those instances, he said, "my job is to try to draw a connection between the values that I express to the church and the challenges and issues that we face in politics. ... I don't think there's anything wrong with expressing faith in the public square and I think there's nothing wrong public servants expressing religiously rooted values."
McCain needs a good share of the independents and some of the democrat swing voters to win. He doesn't need the crazy right wingers as they won't be voting for Obama anyway. At worst, they won't vote at all.Fash wrote:With Clinton being an evil and corrupt psychopath, and McCain not even having the support of his own party, I'm not seeing many other outcomes here.
oh my god that is awesome... this should be on the news right now.
I think you're really underestimating the importance of turnout. "At worst, they won't vote at all..." uh, yeah. That's a pretty fucking big problem for McCain.Winnow wrote:McCain needs a good share of the independents and some of the democrat swing voters to win. He doesn't need the crazy right wingers as they won't be voting for Obama anyway. At worst, they won't vote at all.
I didn't see the press conference, but I'm amazed at how they can add words like 'angry' and 'exasperated' and make a splash out of the same old story. Does anyone other than Clinton supporters actually care about his dealings in the past with this Rezko character? It's not like there is suspicion of murder or communist ties, like with the Clintons!SAN ANTONIO, Tex. - An exasperated Barack Obama scurried away Monday from the toughest news conference of his campaign, telling reporters who kept shouting questions that he'd spent enough time on the grill.
"Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions," Obama, looking surprised, told shouting reporters as he fled the room. "We're running late."
The Clinton campaign has long complained that Obama gets soft treatment from the press corps. But Monday's exchange was no pillow fight.
The first question was about a private talk an Obama economic adviser had with a Canadian official - reportedly saying that the harshness of Obama's criticisms of the North American Free Trade Agreement was for political show.
Last week, Obama denied an initial media report about the conversation. But after a Canadian government memo surfaced, he acknowledged yesterday there was a conversation.
"When I gave you that information, that was the information that I had at the time," he said. His camp still disputes the memo's account of the discussion.
The questioning then turned to Obama's links to ex-fund-raiser Tony Rezko, who went on trial in Chicago Monday on corruption charges. A reporter asserted Obama hadn't fully answered journalists' questions on Rezko.
Obama insisted he had - during a past news conference with Chicago media. But another persisted that questions remain unanswered, such as ones about fund-raisers Rezko held for him.
Obama replied, "These requests, I think, can just go on forever. ..." He said the "pertinent" information had been provided.
When Obama declared the press conference over, one reporter yelled that he was dodging questions just minutes after claiming he wasn't.
She's doing a great job playing the victim... and this guys probably right, if anyone else lost 11-straight they would get no air-time whatsoever. Treat Hillary like she were Ron Paul and see how quickly she fades.First Read @ MSNBC wrote:Here are a few very plausible scenarios:
Obama could net more delegates out of Vermont than Clinton does out of Ohio.
Clinton can win both Ohio and Texas, 52%-48%, and lose the overall delegate battle tonight, thanks to how both Texas and Ohio award more delegates in African-American heavy areas as well as those crazy Texas caucuses.
Speaking of Texas, Obama likely has a five-point cushion on the delegate front, meaning he could lose the state by five points and still net delegates.
How will the media handle Clinton winning two states but Obama winning the most delegates tonight? Who wins the night?
Bonus question: Who do we reward the state of Texas to if Clinton wins the popular vote in the primary but Obama nets the most delegates?
And finally, for all the talk of bias against Clinton's campaign in the media, does anyone believe any other candidate could have lost 11-straight contests, be this far behind in delegates, and be simply two victories away from being back in the game? One thing the media has done is they've given Clinton every chance she wants to write her own comeback story. She gets another shot today.
Do you know that you will only be casting 2/3 of your vote for president? The other 1/3 comes from the caucuses at each precinct at 7:00 p.m. tonight. If you are voting for Obama, please go to the caucus at your voting place tonight. If you are voting for Hillary….stay home! Haha! If you are voting for McCain, well there is no hope!
I'm going to my caucus tonight. Curious if other voting Texans participate or not. maybe new thread?Boogahz wrote:lol, I just got this as part of an email from my mom:
Do you know that you will only be casting 2/3 of your vote for president? The other 1/3 comes from the caucuses at each precinct at 7:00 p.m. tonight. If you are voting for Obama, please go to the caucus at your voting place tonight. If you are voting for Hillary….stay home! Haha! If you are voting for McCain, well there is no hope!
Democrats are grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory. McCain really shouldn't stand a chance in the general election but the most likely outcome now is he will be up against a severely damaged opponent and a fractured if not entirely split democratic party. I already see a lot of posts from both sides stating they won't vote for the other side in the general. This will only get more pronounced the longer it goes.Winnow wrote:McCain's going to win the presidency because democrats don't have a clue about how to nominate an electable candidate.
And now Hillary will make the race dirty, further screwing up the democrats while McCain can rest up for a few months. Texas was close but Ohio should be an embarrassment to anyone that lives there or in a neighboring state.
Forthe wrote:Who would have thought they would re-elect GW. Never say never, them folks down there are a weird bunch
Ohio wasn't as close as Texas, but it was nowhere near a landslide or a bitchslapping. Considering Obama's campaign analyst guy predicted they wouldn't win TX or OH, I don't see how they got bitchslapped considering how close it was.Homercles wrote:Obama got absolutely bitchslapped last night.
Interesting, I talked to 3 people in line last night that were republicans voting for hillary because they knew she'd lose in the general election and wanted to keep obama from getting a chance. Also, from secondhand (my father told me) that Limbaugh is campaigning for republicans to do the same.Ashur wrote:I live in Ohio and I crossed party lines to vote against Hillary last night to no avail.
Wow. I'm just stunned. I thought Democrats were the enlightened ones. LOLRace and Ohio
March 04, 2008 11:52 PM
Interesting exit poll nugget from Ohio…
If I'm reading this exit poll correctly, 20% of Ohio Democrats who voted said race was important…and they broke for Clinton 61% to 38%.
That's quite an edge.
ABC News polling director Gary Langer breaks it down in an email:
19 percent of whites said race was important in their vote; 80 percent, not important.
25 percent of blacks said race was important in their vote; 75 percent, not important.
Whites who said it was important went 77-21 for Clinton. White who said race was not important went 63-35 for Clinton.
Blacks overall went 86-14 for Obama. Blacks who said race was important, 84-16 for Obama.
Incidentally, the same exit polls indicates that gender was important for 17% of voters…Those voters went overwhelmingly FOR Clinton 62% to 38%.
Those who said gender was not important went for Clinton 54% to 44%.
What do you make of these numbers?
- jpt
A) They don't careFash wrote:It just highlights that everyone is dirty and willing to play dirty to get what they want, the will of the people be damned.
yeah, there were a couple people in the Clinton group at my precint caucus last night that even said that they were Republicans that voted for her just because they knew she would lose. One even mentioned the Limbaugh story as well. They got some funny looks, but that was about it. I thought it was just energizing to see as many people participating last night while hearing from the people that participate in every caucus talk about normally having about 10 people total.Truant wrote:Interesting, I talked to 3 people in line last night that were republicans voting for hillary because they knew she'd lose in the general election and wanted to keep obama from getting a chance. Also, from secondhand (my father told me) that Limbaugh is campaigning for republicans to do the same.Ashur wrote:I live in Ohio and I crossed party lines to vote against Hillary last night to no avail.
I admire your conviction, but like you said yourself, you are throwing your vote away.Fash wrote:It should surprise people... You're supposed to vote for who you support, period. We're constantly preached to that our vote is important, but there is constant evidence that it's all a colossal joke at our expense.
I'm still throwing my primary vote (away?) on April 22nd (PA) to Paul, because I actually do support him... It means something to me, to cast that vote for myself. I would never cast a vote for Hillary, no matter the circumstances. That's like having gay sex to prove how straight you are... You fail.
That is hilarious you say that. At least 5 of my friends crossed enemy lines to vote for Hillary due to the fact that McCain would have a easier time beating her over Obama.Ashur wrote:I live in Ohio and I crossed party lines to vote against Hillary last night to no avail. I predicted she'd take it, but hoped my fellow Ohioans weren't idiots.
I still have a prediction of Clinton vs McCain in the General Election with McCain winning, it just pains me to see "Ohio is for Hillary!" type comments. It makes my stomach turn.
Technically, you can't. At least in Ohio.Aslanna wrote:Why are people even allowed to vote for someone on the opposite party they registered as? I could see maybe in the general election but for primaries and such you should have to vote for someone in your party. This voting for the enemy of my enemy thing just sounds retarded to me.
I don't have to register for any party in Texas, but I can only vote in the primary of one party.Aslanna wrote:Why are people even allowed to vote for someone on the opposite party they registered as? I could see maybe in the general election but for primaries and such you should have to vote for someone in your party. This voting for the enemy of my enemy thing just sounds retarded to me.