Burma Massacre

[Forthe]

The war on terror is to hopefully prevent future attacks on our people. What exactly was the attack on 9/11 for again?

Saudi Arabia
Israel
Imperialism\Exploitation
Religion

[Winnow]

"Hay!" Forthe is back. Welcome back!

bagar = kyo?

[Ashur]

I think we need a forum dedicated to the war in Iraq.

You're in it.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

bagar = kyo?

Gee, that's a tough one.

[Spang]

This guy used capitalization. Kyoukan rarely ever did.

[Sueven]

Preface: I actually like Funk, and I at least don't dislike Mid. But, in the context of this particular thread, this:

Why the fuck would anyone else try to argue with you two dicksock motherfuckers?

Is about as true as true gets. Welcome to VV.

I had honestly stopped reading this thread because it made me embarrassed to be an American. I'm only back because someone told me to come read bagar's post.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Preface: I actually like Funk, and I at least don't dislike Mid. But, in the context of this particular thread, this:

Why the fuck would anyone else try to argue with you two dicksock motherfuckers?

Is about as true as true gets. Welcome to VV.

I had honestly stopped reading this thread because it made me embarrassed to be an American. I'm only back because someone told me to come read bagar's post.

What does being an American mean to you anyways? Do you actually have any sense of nationalism? Do you have any appreciation for our history? For how we got to where we are now?

[Sueven]

Yes.

[Spang]

What does being an American mean to you anyways? Do you actually have any sense of nationalism? Do you have any appreciation for our history? For how we got to where we are now?

He left the thread, he didn't leave the country!

[Bagar-]

I'm not Kyo. I played a paladin on Veeshan. I wasn't around during EQ's "Golden era" like most of you; I started playing about when PoP came out, and quit about two years ago. Very few of you probabaly knew me, sans Hesten and Xatrei, and it's doubtful that even they remember me. All of which is irrelevant - why would you assume kyo would make a fake forum account to bash you idiots? She never had a problem openly expressing her opinions.

But of course, rather than addressing my actual post, since it may be inconvient to you, you blow it off; knowing full well that i'm not Kyo and that she wouldn't make a fake account to flame you, and you choose to address something more suitable to your personal agenda of being a douchebag. So why don't you answer my question: would it be so hard for you to get out of the self-centric mode you've put yourself in and look at other's views, or have you grown so lethargic in your posting habits that it's simply easier to disagree with someone as profounly and forcibly as possible and move to the next topic, where you can do the same thing, over and over? This is Veeshanvault, and people will disagree (and certainly not get along) - but you out of all posters have the biggest tendancy to blow off other's arguments and SCREAM as loudly as possible that you're the correct party involved, and then when you're PROVEN wrong, you ignore posts alltogather in favor of turning to some other pointless debate where you can repeat this process.

I'd really like to get some dialogue with you here, so I can see exactly how ignorant dickholes such as yourself function with normal members of society.

[Winnow]

why would you assume kyo would make a fake forum account to bash you idiots? She never had a problem openly expressing her opinions.

You're an idiot. Lets not confuse things. Name calling is fun!

[Bagar-]

why would you assume kyo would make a fake forum account to bash you idiots? She never had a problem openly expressing her opinions.

You're an idiot. Lets not confuse things. Name calling is fun!

Name calling is fun, indeed, however do you actually think Kyo would make a fake forum account to flame people? Come on now... I haven't been here for probabaly half as long as yourself, and even I know that.

[Fash]

[Winnow]

Name calling is fun, indeed, however do you actually think Kyo would make a fake forum account to flame people? Come on now... I haven't been here for probabaly half as long as yourself, and even I know that.

kyo's posts steadily went downhill here so who knows what its mental state is atm. Blasting the VV board, when it's easy to pinpoint the problem areas for certain people, isn't very productive. As I said elsewhere, compartmentalizing the various areas of VV makes for a better experience. And I still don't get why it's so hard for people to just ignore and blow right by posts by VV'ers they don't like. The ignore function isn't even required but that's an option as well.

[Bagar-]

Name calling is fun, indeed, however do you actually think Kyo would make a fake forum account to flame people? Come on now... I haven't been here for probabaly half as long as yourself, and even I know that.

kyo's posts steadily went downhill here so who knows what its mental state is atm. Blasting the VV board, when it's easy to pinpoint the problem areas for certain people, isn't very productive. As I said elsewhere, compartmentalizing the various areas of VV makes for a better experience. And I still don't get why it's so hard for people to just ignore and blow right by posts by VV'ers they don't like. The ignore function isn't even required but that's an option as well.

I think the general issue people are having, as even noted by yourself in another thread, is the declining "population" of active VV posters. I'm pointing out why. Some people ONLY come here for the CE discussions, and when they see these discussions derailed and dominated by back-and-forth contentless posts by a certain few people that make it VERY hard to hold a real, intellectual debate, why would they bother to come here anymore at all? I'm not blasting VV - I think it's a great and somewhat fascinating board full of people of all different backgrounds that have kept in contact YEARS after quitting the element that brought them together. But I also think, as is typical for a lot of societal groups, the few annoying fucktards ruin it for the "silent majority" - if you will. This does mostly pertain to the CE section I might add, as even Funk is tolerable on the games forums and elsewhere. Mid is pretty much a dickless fuckheard regardless though .

[Xyun]

Preface: I actually like Funk, and I at least don't dislike Mid. But, in the context of this particular thread, this:

Why the fuck would anyone else try to argue with you two dicksock motherfuckers?

Is about as true as true gets. Welcome to VV.

I had honestly stopped reading this thread because it made me embarrassed to be an American. I'm only back because someone told me to come read bagar's post.

What does being an American mean to you anyways? Do you actually have any sense of nationalism? Do you have any appreciation for our history? For how we got to where we are now?

Coming from a guy who barely understands what it means to be american, who has a misplaced sense of nationalism or patriotism, who proudly denies the history and the philosophies of the founding fathers and the constitution, and who takes for granted all the blood paid to get this country to where it is now, these questions are absurdly hilarious. Thanks for the laugh, imbecile.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

Make them mad at us? Are they a bunch of 5th graders? What they need to do is progress beyond their ridiculous, backwards religious backgrounds and join the progressive society many of the rest of us live in. There would be no reason for wars if others could stop acting like animalistic cavemen. We only get 70-90 years here. I don't see why we can't all get along.

This is hillarious.

You, as a nation, at a 99% polling level, sure seemed quite ready to bay for the blood of any arab after 3,000 "innocents" were killed, and you think people are childish for being mad about 700,000.

Again, your complete and total lack of empathy astounds me.

Hold up there sparky. The insurgents are the ones doing most of the killing over there. That would be like us fighting our own government after 9/11 and killing 300,000 more people and claiming the Al Queida group killed all of them. Put the blame where it has been now for the last 2+ years....it is INSURGENTS killing the innocents.

[Sylvus]

Hold up there sparky. The insurgents are the ones doing most of the killing over there. That would be like us fighting our own government after 9/11 and killing 300,000 more people and claiming the Al Queida group killed all of them. Put the blame where it has been now for the last 2+ years....it is INSURGENTS killing the innocents.

But in the context of this discussion, which started when trying to explain why there are more and more people in the Muslim world getting angry at the US, the blame (from the perspective of said angry Muslims) lies on us. Sure, we're not the ones pulling the trigger, but our "unjust" occupation of Iraq is viewed as the cause. The insurgents wouldn't exist if we hadn't invaded Iraq.

I don't remember 5 years ago that well exactly. I know that most of the world was behind us when we went into Afghanistan. Back then, did that include the Muslim world as well?

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

That is not what he said at all...and even if you count the context you are referring to it is ridiculous. We as a society have not blamed other countries for the tremendous amount of murders that happen here yearly. That is all that is going on over there right now....Iraqis (and other insurgents) killing Iraqis. You can lay the blame on us for the first year or two of deaths, but now it is almost entirely at the hands of the insurgents. The US leaving will not stop it and it will increase if we do leave. It kicked off when we arrived, but it will only stop when either the insurgents are eliminated or they decide to stop.

I have said this before and I will say it again. The only way to WIN this type of a war is a way our society has no stomach for. You must eliminate enough of their people ina mass slaughter that it breaks their will to fight and ensures them that their struggle will lead to the complete and utter destruction of every single citizen, soldier, and living person attached to them. You cannot ever win a geurilla war by defending forever (see Vietnam). If we wanted to end conflict in the Middle East, it is definitely acheivable.....but the society in which we live woudl never ever permit it. You would need to absolutely destroy one of the countries there and demand total surrender as was done with Japan and Germany....and then disarm them entirely.

[Funkmasterr]

Zaelath and nick are just further proving how fucking stupid they are, the sad part is that most of the other people on VV are just as retarded and probably agree with them. They just aren't posting about it for whatever reason.

Why the fuck would anyone else try to argue with you two dicksock motherfuckers? I've been reading your stupid hypocritical bullshit for three years now, and haven't bothered to post, because no amount of arguing can change you fucktwits into reasonable, logic-bearing human beings. Half the time you assclowns post just for the sake of being contrary, yet you try to convince other people to look at the "big picture" or to see things from your view? Fucking morons. You just post to annoy people, not to actually bring about any level of debate. A debate involves people listening to and at least granting the other side a momentary glance of consideration, countering other individual's points by ackowledging them and giving real evidence that they're either false or inconclusive, or perhaps even granting the otherside is correct and conceding your point. All you morons do is see who can yell the loudest. Often this goes for both sides of the fence, but mostly it's just Funk and Mid.

So yeah, what in the fuck would cause anyone to want to argue with you morons? The saddest thing is that you're both so convinced that you're right, that you'll never, ever look at anything but what you strictly hold to be true and give it chance; you know, perhaps learn something new or take up a new belief, or modify your own. That's the highest level of ignorance I can think of.

Jackass?

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

I find it really amusing how you just made a post full of assertions about me instead of assumptions (and incorrect ones at that.) Most of the time I don't post just to get a rise out of someone, and when I do it generally isn't in this forum, that is a whole lot more than I can say for a lot of the other douchebags that post here regularly.

An please don't assume that I don't humor the ideas and theories that the other side of the fence has, but VV is far from the first time I hear them. By the time I am discussing them here, I have generally heard most of it and dismissed it for one reason or another, so there is no reason for me to reconsider the idea just because some dude on a message board reiterated the same thing I have laughed off already irl (yes, in case any of you were wondering, I DO tell people they are retarded and laugh in their faces just like I do on VV for holding ridiculous beliefs, most stupid people irl don't mean any more to me than most people here.)

IF you have indeed been lurking here for several years and just now decided to post and "put me in my place" (serious fucking LOL here) you sure did build a weak fucking case given the amount of material you supposedly had.

And if any of you asshats want to blame anyone for the degeneration of this thread, you can thank your pal nick.

[Funkmasterr]

That is not what he said at all...and even if you count the context you are referring to it is ridiculous. We as a society have not blamed other countries for the tremendous amount of murders that happen here yearly. That is all that is going on over there right now....Iraqis (and other insurgents) killing Iraqis. You can lay the blame on us for the first year or two of deaths, but now it is almost entirely at the hands of the insurgents. The US leaving will not stop it and it will increase if we do leave. It kicked off when we arrived, but it will only stop when either the insurgents are eliminated or they decide to stop.

I have said this before and I will say it again. The only way to WIN this type of a war is a way our society has no stomach for. You must eliminate enough of their people ina mass slaughter that it breaks their will to fight and ensures them that their struggle will lead to the complete and utter destruction of every single citizen, soldier, and living person attached to them. You cannot ever win a geurilla war by defending forever (see Vietnam). If we wanted to end conflict in the Middle East, it is definitely acheivable.....but the society in which we live woudl never ever permit it. You would need to absolutely destroy one of the countries there and demand total surrender as was done with Japan and Germany....and then disarm them entirely.

Correct.

I would also like to add for fagar and whomever else was popping off about how I never debate issues. Let me explain something to your absolute wholly ignorant asses - debating is when one person states a point, another argues for/against it, and then the other person possibly gives a retort to what the other said, or concedes the point.

The way things continuously work here on VV, and this goes for damn near everyone that posts here - is one person says something, the other states their (usually opposing) view, then the first person reiterates the same thing they said before, as does the other person.. And this happens because most of the people here (save a very small handful, maybe 2 or 3 people) are solidified in their opinions and nothing anyone could say would make them think any different, so really what's the point?

[Fash]

I thought it was each person states their view, then take turns calling each other retards.

I'm with Kilmoll... nuke somebody, show them who's boss... remind them who daddy is.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

I never said that is what I WANT. I am just stating a fact about the reality of guerilla warfare.


If the entire Iraq mess was up to me, I would have just had Saddam assassinated by a sniper team and sent all my troops into Afghanistan to hunt down Osama. The Afghans would not have had much say about it either or the war would have moved there....same with any country that is willingly harboring a terror organization. You harbor them, your country is responsible for them.

[Zaelath]

That is not what he said at all...and even if you count the context you are referring to it is ridiculous. We as a society have not blamed other countries for the tremendous amount of murders that happen here yearly.

If the Iranians invaded your country, disabled your government, your power, and your police force, and created the kind of food shortages that turn people against each other; yeah, you'd pretty heavily blame the Iranians that the mexicans, negros, chinese, whatever were killing you enmass. I love how so many of you can't see anything from the other side of the glass.

[Zaelath]

I would also like to add for fagar and whomever else was popping off about how I never debate issues. Let me explain something to your absolute wholly ignorant asses - debating is when one person states a point, another argues for/against it, and then the other person possibly gives a retort to what the other said, or concedes the point.

The way things continuously work here on VV, and this goes for damn near everyone that posts here - is one person says something, the other states their (usually opposing) view, then the first person reiterates the same thing they said before, as does the other person.. And this happens because most of the people here (save a very small handful, maybe 2 or 3 people) are solidified in their opinions and nothing anyone could say would make them think any different, so really what's the point?

I can recall a few times where I have conceeded the point, or at least that I misunderstood the opposing point. I can't recall you ever gaining any knowledge what-so-ever from anyone else in your entire tenure. The largely emotional, and completely fact-free, opinion you arrive with is always the one you leave with.

As to "restating" the point, usually that's because you or Mid or some other troll paraphrase what is said to mean something completely different to what was actually said, either through lack of comprehension or deliberate obtuseness. The point is then reiterated for the benefit clarity, and a few well deserved appellations are thrown in.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

You are an imbecile. If someone takes a shot at me, I am not blaming some random organization or country...I blame the asshole that took a shot at me. Here is a newsflash smart guy.....that region has been at war with everyone about everything for the 1700 years prior to the US existing. We are just the latest reason for those heathens to kill anyone they can get in range of.

[Funkmasterr]

I would also like to add for fagar and whomever else was popping off about how I never debate issues. Let me explain something to your absolute wholly ignorant asses - debating is when one person states a point, another argues for/against it, and then the other person possibly gives a retort to what the other said, or concedes the point.

The way things continuously work here on VV, and this goes for damn near everyone that posts here - is one person says something, the other states their (usually opposing) view, then the first person reiterates the same thing they said before, as does the other person.. And this happens because most of the people here (save a very small handful, maybe 2 or 3 people) are solidified in their opinions and nothing anyone could say would make them think any different, so really what's the point?

I can recall a few times where I have conceeded the point, or at least that I misunderstood the opposing point. I can't recall you ever gaining any knowledge what-so-ever from anyone else in your entire tenure. The largely emotional, and completely fact-free, opinion you arrive with is always the one you leave with.

As to "restating" the point, usually that's because you or Mid or some other troll paraphrase what is said to mean something completely different to what was actually said, either through lack of comprehension or deliberate obtuseness. The point is then reiterated for the benefit clarity, and a few well deserved appellations are thrown in.

I beg to differ. I have gained plenty of knowledge from VV, just not from the CE forum, because pretty much anything that comes out of anyones mouth that is even slightly liberal makes me want to vomit all over myself.

You are pretty quick to toss insults and claims of your superior intellect around all based off of your opinion on these issues we speak of supposedly being so apparently right (a joke if I've ever heard one), and just because there are a bigger handful of morons here that agree with you than disagree, doesn't mean jack shit, fyi.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

I've stated numerous times, how much I have learned from this forum over the past 7 years. Sure, this board is full of a lot of hate-filled name-callers, but there is always something to be learned from the way others feel or view things.

[Nick]

First off, this is absolutely fucking beautiful, respect to Xyun!

Coming from a guy who barely understands what it means to be american, who has a misplaced sense of nationalism or patriotism, who proudly denies the history and the philosophies of the founding fathers and the constitution, and who takes for granted all the blood paid to get this country to where it is now, these questions are absurdly hilarious. Thanks for the laugh, imbecile.

Next up, we have a horrible juxtaposition of incredible stupidity, if only for the choice of naming. "Insurgents" make up probably less than 10% of the Iraq guerrilla fighters, but don't let that little fact get in the way of your blind assertions. Also, by all means ignore the fact that everyone already warned the US before it invaded that its illegal, immoral and downright retarded occupation would spawn such an insurgency. I guess the whole "let's laugh that ridiculous assumption off" brigade (of which several of you were) should be eating their hats right about now.

Hold up there sparky. The insurgents are the ones doing most of the killing over there. That would be like us fighting our own government after 9/11 and killing 300,000 more people and claiming the Al Queida group killed all of them. Put the blame where it has been now for the last 2+ years....it is INSURGENTS killing the innocents.

And talk about missing the fucking point? Jesus christ what planet do you live on?

We as a society have not blamed other countries for the tremendous amount of murders that happen here yearly.

Oh wow, homophobic insults! How intellectually profound.

fagar

In all seriousness, most of the arguments from Funk and Mid hold zero critical weight in every country on the planet outside the US. I really do feel pretty bad for those of you that have to deal with this laughable, yet tragically illogical, bullshit.

It's a shame you have all the guns.

Guns = "Righteous crusade"

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

How intellectually profound.

I could tag this to the end of 90% of your posts.

[Bagar-]

Wow, you called me Fagar. I haven't heard that a million fucking times. Gaymasterr. Oh yes, I took it there.

Anywho.

pretty much anything that comes out of anyones mouth that is even slightly liberal makes me want to vomit all over myself.

That's presicely the attitude i'm talking about. You're such a self-absorbed little kid, that you completly disregard the logic of literally millions of people due to political / idealogical affiliation? And they're the retards? You complain about people talking down to you, and you try to do it in every post you make. You complain about people being totally solidified in their political beliefs, yet you're about as solid as a crystalized piece of shit. Stop being an apathetic little slug and change yourself before you place the hypocritical blame on others. And I guarantee you have NO retort to this statement, because you don't know my affiliations or how I respond to debate, you don't know me, and you don't know how I stand on issues. I'm completly neutral as far as you know, except on the point that I think you and Mid are ruining this forum. So don't spout off your typical "you're a libtard" rant and think of something clever please.

Don't feel that i'm picking you out because you're the only person that displays these traits; this doesn't just apply to you - you're just one of the more outspoken hypocrites here, so you're a good target. This doesn't make anything i've said irrelevant, however, so don't think it does. It isn't just about this thread either - it's basically every thread you post in.

I liked you a lot better when you were posting photos of your suped-out ride and everyone made fun of you, but I suppose you wouldn't make that mistake twice .

[Sylvus]

I'm totally voting Bagar in '08.

[Nick]

I'm totally voting Bagar in '08.

[Funkmasterr]

Wow, you called me Fagar. I haven't heard that a million fucking times. Gaymasterr. Oh yes, I took it there.

Anywho.

pretty much anything that comes out of anyones mouth that is even slightly liberal makes me want to vomit all over myself.

That's presicely the attitude i'm talking about. You're such a self-absorbed little kid, that you completly disregard the logic of literally millions of people due to political / idealogical affiliation? And they're the retards? You complain about people talking down to you, and you try to do it in every post you make. You complain about people being totally solidified in their political beliefs, yet you're about as solid as a crystalized piece of shit. Stop being an apathetic little slug and change yourself before you place the hypocritical blame on others. And I guarantee you have NO retort to this statement, because you don't know my affiliations or how I respond to debate, you don't know me, and you don't know how I stand on issues. I'm completly neutral as far as you know, except on the point that I think you and Mid are ruining this forum. So don't spout off your typical "you're a libtard" rant and think of something clever please.

Don't feel that i'm picking you out because you're the only person that displays these traits; this doesn't just apply to you - you're just one of the more outspoken hypocrites here, so you're a good target. This doesn't make anything i've said irrelevant, however, so don't think it does. It isn't just about this thread either - it's basically every thread you post in.

I liked you a lot better when you were posting photos of your suped-out ride and everyone made fun of you, but I suppose you wouldn't make that mistake twice .

Nothing you said changes anything I said to you. I can be a hypocritical intolerant asshole if I damn well please, and the only thing you can do is bitch about it on a message board you have been lurking on like some kind of fucking pedophile for years.

Let me break it down for you,

1 - I don't like liberal stances for a reason, not just blindly because they are liberal (which is more than I can say for some of the liberals here on VV)

2 - I don't care how you debate, I don't care where you are on the political spectrum, hell, I don't care if you watch your whole family die slowly in a terrible car accident tomorrow before finally being put out of your misery.

3 - Nice try on the "mid and funk are ruining this forum" thing, you are wrong. End of discussion.

4 - Where precisely was it that I posted pictured of my "suped out ride", I changed my avatar to a picture of my new (completely un modded, or suped, or whatever you want to call it) Audi when I got it because I was excited about it. And I certainly don't recall anyone making fun of me about it, and if they did (I would like to see this thread linked, btw, or shut the fuck up) it was for no reason at all, and they were being douchebags for no reason.

Your opinion is irrelevant dude, face it. I might not like a lot of the people that post here, particularly the ones I always disagree with. But I do have a little respect for them because they have the balls to post their opinions knowing full well someone might attack them for it, you however are a fucking coward, and IMO picked a stupid fucking topic to come in on, douchebag.

I was serious about the car accident thing, too.

EDIT: the fact that you got nick to jump on your bandwagon just proves every point I made in this post.

[Nick]

Care to hand me that shovel Funk?

[Funkmasterr]

Oh for that hole I'm digging? haha you are so clever...

Except for one thing.. I'm not, if you think bagal or yourself or anyone else is making me look stupid and I'm helping them, your fucking dumber than I ever thought.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Wow, you called me Fagar. I haven't heard that a million fucking times. Gaymasterr. Oh yes, I took it there.

Anywho.

pretty much anything that comes out of anyones mouth that is even slightly liberal makes me want to vomit all over myself.

That's presicely the attitude i'm talking about. You're such a self-absorbed little kid, that you completly disregard the logic of literally millions of people due to political / idealogical affiliation? And they're the retards? You complain about people talking down to you, and you try to do it in every post you make. You complain about people being totally solidified in their political beliefs, yet you're about as solid as a crystalized piece of shit. Stop being an apathetic little slug and change yourself before you place the hypocritical blame on others. And I guarantee you have NO retort to this statement, because you don't know my affiliations or how I respond to debate, you don't know me, and you don't know how I stand on issues. I'm completly neutral as far as you know, except on the point that I think you and Mid are ruining this forum. So don't spout off your typical "you're a libtard" rant and think of something clever please.

Don't feel that i'm picking you out because you're the only person that displays these traits; this doesn't just apply to you - you're just one of the more outspoken hypocrites here, so you're a good target. This doesn't make anything i've said irrelevant, however, so don't think it does. It isn't just about this thread either - it's basically every thread you post in.

I liked you a lot better when you were posting photos of your suped-out ride and everyone made fun of you, but I suppose you wouldn't make that mistake twice .

Ok Kyocunt.

[Nick]

Oh for that hole I'm digging? haha you are so clever...

Except for one thing.. I'm not, if you think bagal or yourself or anyone else is making me look stupid and I'm helping them, your fucking dumber than I ever thought.

As if your opinion on anything is worth more than a hearty chuckle old friend?

And bagal? Really. Wow, that's .....why that's just....awful? silly? comically inept?

[Funkmasterr]

Oh for that hole I'm digging? haha you are so clever...

Except for one thing.. I'm not, if you think bagal or yourself or anyone else is making me look stupid and I'm helping them, your fucking dumber than I ever thought.

As if your opinion on anything is worth more than a hearty chuckle old friend?

And bagal? Really. Wow, that's .....why that's just....awful? silly? comically inept?

My opinion is worth what I say it is, not what you or anyone else here says.

And I said bagal because I truly didn't know the name and didn't care to scroll up and look at it, nothing more than that.

[Nick]

My opinion is worth what I say it is, not what you or anyone else here says.

What a compelling argument.

You see I always assumed an opinions worth was based on the reason and logic underlying it's central points, but since you say otherwise I guess we should all alter our philosophically considered assumptions and follow the self belief based assertions of "Funkmasterr" from Veeshanvault on the internet.

[Drinsic Darkwood]

Except for one thing.. I'm not, if you think bagal or yourself or anyone else is making me look stupid and I'm helping them, your fucking dumber than I ever thought.

I'd say "your" getting the job done by yourself easily enough.

[Funkmasterr]

Except for one thing.. I'm not, if you think bagal or yourself or anyone else is making me look stupid and I'm helping them, your fucking dumber than I ever thought.

I'd say "your" getting the job done by yourself easily enough.

Pointing out a grammatical error, that's a new one

[Nick]

Look who's fucking talking!

[Aslanna]

the only thing you can do is bitch about it on a message board you have been lurking on like some kind of fucking pedophile for years.

You lost me here. Lurkers = pedophiles? Huh?

Sure, this board is full of a lot of hate-filled name-callers...

Ok Kyocunt.

Apparently you were speaking of yourself. You didn't really need to let us in on that fact though as we were already well aware.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

the only thing you can do is bitch about it on a message board you have been lurking on like some kind of fucking pedophile for years.

You lost me here. Lurkers = pedophiles? Huh?

Sure, this board is full of a lot of hate-filled name-callers...

Ok Kyocunt.

Apparently you were speaking of yourself. You didn't really need to let us in on that fact though as we were already well aware.

Whatever helps you justify your dis-illusioned mind.

[Bagar-]

Wow, you called me Fagar. I haven't heard that a million fucking times. Gaymasterr. Oh yes, I took it there.

Anywho.

pretty much anything that comes out of anyones mouth that is even slightly liberal makes me want to vomit all over myself.

That's presicely the attitude i'm talking about. You're such a self-absorbed little kid, that you completly disregard the logic of literally millions of people due to political / idealogical affiliation? And they're the retards? You complain about people talking down to you, and you try to do it in every post you make. You complain about people being totally solidified in their political beliefs, yet you're about as solid as a crystalized piece of shit. Stop being an apathetic little slug and change yourself before you place the hypocritical blame on others. And I guarantee you have NO retort to this statement, because you don't know my affiliations or how I respond to debate, you don't know me, and you don't know how I stand on issues. I'm completly neutral as far as you know, except on the point that I think you and Mid are ruining this forum. So don't spout off your typical "you're a libtard" rant and think of something clever please.

Don't feel that i'm picking you out because you're the only person that displays these traits; this doesn't just apply to you - you're just one of the more outspoken hypocrites here, so you're a good target. This doesn't make anything i've said irrelevant, however, so don't think it does. It isn't just about this thread either - it's basically every thread you post in.

I liked you a lot better when you were posting photos of your suped-out ride and everyone made fun of you, but I suppose you wouldn't make that mistake twice .

Nothing you said changes anything I said to you. I can be a hypocritical intolerant asshole if I damn well please, and the only thing you can do is bitch about it on a message board you have been lurking on like some kind of fucking pedophile for years.

Let me break it down for you,

1 - I don't like liberal stances for a reason, not just blindly because they are liberal (which is more than I can say for some of the liberals here on VV)

2 - I don't care how you debate, I don't care where you are on the political spectrum, hell, I don't care if you watch your whole family die slowly in a terrible car accident tomorrow before finally being put out of your misery.

3 - Nice try on the "mid and funk are ruining this forum" thing, you are wrong. End of discussion.

4 - Where precisely was it that I posted pictured of my "suped out ride", I changed my avatar to a picture of my new (completely un modded, or suped, or whatever you want to call it) Audi when I got it because I was excited about it. And I certainly don't recall anyone making fun of me about it, and if they did (I would like to see this thread linked, btw, or shut the fuck up) it was for no reason at all, and they were being douchebags for no reason.

Your opinion is irrelevant dude, face it. I might not like a lot of the people that post here, particularly the ones I always disagree with. But I do have a little respect for them because they have the balls to post their opinions knowing full well someone might attack them for it, you however are a fucking coward, and IMO picked a stupid fucking topic to come in on, douchebag.

I was serious about the car accident thing, too.

EDIT: the fact that you got nick to jump on your bandwagon just proves every point I made in this post.

1. You care to explain WHY you don't like liberal stances, and why a single political "stance" (assuming conservative?) should be unarbitrarily applied to all situations?

2. the fact that you'd wish death upon someone's entire family based on the fact that they disagree with and don't think highly of you is highly indicative of every point i've made so far.

3. NO U R

4. I'm not going to go dig through threads, but I remember a thread in which your car was brought into discussion, along with your "urban-gangsta-whiteboy" attitude, and you basically told everyone you wouldn't be posting here anymore, wah wah, etc. If you'd like to prove me wrong on that, feel free, I might be.

I'm a coward? I sit behind a computer and post my opinions no differently than you, although arguably more logically and articulately. So if i'm a coward, I suppose you are as well. I suppose not posting for the last three years makes me a pedophile in the same sense that every one of your posts in the last three years outside of the game forum has been fileld with useless shit makes you fucking retarded. You admit to being a hypocritical intolerant asshole, and admitance is the first step to recovery. Good luck.

As for you, Mid. There aren't many people here who could affirm that i'm not Kyo, as I said, the only people that even have a chance of remembering me when I played EQ are Xatrei, Nneena (haven't seen her in awhile), Hesten (doesn't come to the CE forums) and Rhyae (also doesn't come to the CE forums). However the fact that all you can say is that i'm Kyo shows a lot.

Also.


FAGMASTERR LOL ELEVENTYWIN HAHA

[Aslanna]

Sure, this board is full of a lot of hate-filled name-callers...

Ok Kyocunt.

Apparently you were speaking of yourself. You didn't really need to let us in on that fact though as we were already well aware.

Whatever helps you justify your dis-illusioned mind.

As shown above you're the one that said it. And I'm the disillusioned one? Just goes to show how deep your head is in the sand. Nothing new there.

[Nick]

Midnyte: Sure, this board is full of a lot of hate-filled name-callers...

Midnyte: Ok Kyocunt.

Midnyte: Whatever helps you justify your dis-illusioned mind.

Are you being ironic here or are you really going to embarrass yourself in an attempt to deny Aslanna's factual highlighting of your hypocrisy?

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Midnyte: Sure, this board is full of a lot of hate-filled name-callers...

Midnyte: Ok Kyocunt.

Midnyte: Whatever helps you justify your dis-illusioned mind.

Are you being ironic here or are you really going to embarrass yourself in an attempt to deny Aslanna's factual highlighting of your hypocrisy?

Number one, I'm not hate-filled. Number two, I don't go around labeling people as bigots, racists, sexists, homophobes, etc. repeatedly trying to get that awful stigma to stick. You know what I'm talking about, yet you throw up Kyocunt and try to act like it is the same thing. That is why I call you dis-illusioned and that is what I continually point out your small mindedness. You think tiny. You hold up minut exmaples and proclaim them monumental signs of definity. You're laughable.

[Forthe]

You are an imbecile. If someone takes a shot at me, I am not blaming some random organization or country...I blame the asshole that took a shot at me. Here is a newsflash smart guy.....that region has been at war with everyone about everything for the 1700 years prior to the US existing. We are just the latest reason for those heathens to kill anyone they can get in range of.

I agree with you that Sunni Vs Shia (and the infighting within them) is causing much of the body count. However, the US is responsible for removing the forces that held these groups together (by force).

You can't blowup a dam and then argue the flood isn't the result of your actions.