This is a interesting case

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » June 6, 2003, 3:53 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/06/flori ... index.html

Id have to say the judge made the right decision here, maybe taking the picture does infringe on the women's rights, but a DL is not a right it is a privilage.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » June 6, 2003, 4:04 pm

WELCOME TO LAST FUCKING WEEK!!11!1

http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4330

(sorry, I always wanted to say that

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » June 6, 2003, 4:29 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:WELCOME TO LAST FUCKING WEEK!!11!1

http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4330

(sorry, I always wanted to say that

Arghhh the Judge ruled this week

Crav · Post by **Crav** » June 19, 2003, 7:01 pm

Found this story thought it would be interesting to compare the two since as everyone has been saying driving is a privilege not a right. So are both laws correct then?

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » June 19, 2003, 7:16 pm

Two diffrent countries.

Crav · Post by **Crav** » June 19, 2003, 8:10 pm

That wasn't the question. Do you believe that both laws are fair? In both cases people are excluded from driving because as has been said it is a privilege not a right. So by the logic used both laws would be correct and fair.

Kargyle · Post by **Kargyle** » June 19, 2003, 8:57 pm

No the law in Saudi Arabia isn't fair, but they aren't known for their fairness to women. The ruling here in the US isn't based on discimination against a religion, it is based on common sense. The police need to be able to positively identify that the person driving the car, is the person who is pictured on the license. It is simple logistics. Imagine what would happen if suddenly thousand's of people were driving with a veil, the potential for abuse by criminals boggles the mind.

Crav · Post by **Crav** » June 19, 2003, 9:59 pm

So what your saying is that if common sense dictated that if women or old people were bad drivers than for the betterment of society it would be ok to not allow them to drive.

Imagine what would happen if suddenly thousand's of people were driving with a veil, the potential for abuse by criminals boggles the mind.

I doubt woman criminals would need a veil to abuse the law. I mean to begin with they are criminals so would probably have other means by which to elude the police like false ids and such.

The prevalent common sense in Saudi Arabia is that woman are inferior to men so therefore need men to drive them around.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » June 19, 2003, 10:12 pm

My English proffessor, the most strong willed and intelligent woman I have ever met, got a knife put to her throat in Saudi (believe it was Saudi) by arguing with a man in public. He was telling her to put on a veil, she refused and an argument ensued(she argues about everything, but I repsect her for it cause she never loses). Next thing she knows she has a crowd of people yelling at her and a knife to her throat. I raised my hand and asked if she then shut up for once, and she laughed and said she sure as hell did. Damn I miss her.

Skogen · Post by **Skogen** » June 19, 2003, 10:22 pm

Kargyle wrote:No the law in Saudi Arabia isn't fair, but they aren't known for their fairness to women. The ruling here in the US isn't based on discimination against a religion, it is based on common sense. The police need to be able to positively identify that the person driving the car, is the person who is pictured on the license. It is simple logistics. Imagine what would happen if suddenly thousand's of people were driving with a veil, the potential for abuse by criminals boggles the mind.

Exactly. DOnt want to take off your veil due to your belief system? Then you can't leagelly drive. End of story