HULK-- will it be a hit?

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » June 16, 2003, 4:02 pm

Will it be good or bad? Enquiring minds want to know your opinion!

Btw, read this: http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/58859.htm

The Hulk's fights are based on pit bulls, pro wrestlers and bloody, bare-knuckled ultimate fighters - all of which Lee and the animators studied on film and in person.

The Super Bowl trailer was terrible. The latest teasers are fantastic. I think HULK SMASH!

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » June 16, 2003, 4:12 pm

I read that article in the Post today whilst eating my breakfast. The article was a good one in saying how Hulk was different. But its been getting a lot of mixed reviews lately. I predict that it will do well at the box office but will fail to topple the 200 million mark, which 4 movies have done already this summer.

noel · Post by **noel** » June 16, 2003, 4:15 pm

I'm going to go with an unfortunate 'No.'

It's disappointing that Marvel chose to waste Ang Lee on a superhero like the Hulk who was far too one-dimensional to attract my attention as a child when I was actually collecting comic books. I think the effects will look good, and Jennifer Connely will look good, but based on the character, and Drolgin's comments, I'm not expecting anything from this movie.

Acies · Post by **Acies** » June 16, 2003, 4:32 pm

I agree with Aranuil for differant reasons.
I do not think the director will catch all (or even any) of the conotations behind the Hunk, the true suffering of Bruce as he fights to hold this monster inside him back.
It looks like they made it to the point where he just welcomes being the Hulk instead of it tormenting him.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » June 16, 2003, 4:38 pm

Actually, I read several reviews today and the mjority of them were quite favorable indeed. I see Lee as portraying the Bruce?hulk relationship better than most. We'll have to wait and see, but I still think it's going to be pretty good. I mean, it will be better than Daredevil, lol.

PS: Rumor on the street is there will be a Punisher preview before Hulk. Just a rumor mind you. The movie has yet to start shooting, so any preview will be rather tame. Look for full costume shots though

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » June 16, 2003, 4:46 pm

I think this will suck. If they wanted to make a comic book movie about a big smashing bruiser, they should have gone the route of the Fantastic 4. Same type of character there, but with more personality and tons more possibilities to make a series of movies.

noel · Post by **noel** » June 16, 2003, 5:11 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:I think this will suck. If they wanted to make a comic book movie about a big smashing bruiser, they should have gone the route of the Fantastic 4. Same type of character there, but with more personality and tons more possibilities to make a series of movies.

It doesn't look like they're willing to pony up to the type of budget necessary for a movie like FF or the Avengers. They're just not getting the special effects budgets to make it believeable. If you look at X-men 1, and 2 (which I liked a lot), look at how few people were flying. All the confrontations are human on human. The same with Daredevil which I blame more on a poor script and a bad actor than anything else. Speaking of Daredevil and sucking, you obviously didn't see the original punisher movie, or the Captain American movie (that might have been a bad dream) where he fought against the Red Skull. I actually think the latest Spiderman movie was the best of the Marvel movies to date.

Punisher could be a cool movie but I'm kind of horrified at their casting decision at the moment.

Post by **Sylvus** » June 16, 2003, 5:18 pm

I wouldn't group the Dolph Lundgren Punisher or the old Captain America with the Marvel films of the last few years. It's as if Marvel wasn't even involved with those.

What was the casting decision in the new one? Don't tell me it is Vin Diesel...

noel · Post by **noel** » June 16, 2003, 5:28 pm

Sylvus wrote:I wouldn't group the Dolph Lundgren Punisher or the old Captain America with the Marvel films of the last few years. It's as if Marvel wasn't even involved with those.

What was the casting decision in the new one? Don't tell me it is Vin Diesel...

Oh I totally agree and would add that the quality of a Marvel movie is inversely proportionate to Stan Lee's creative control of said movie. The only point I was making is that there are far worse things than the recent Daredevil movie. After all, thast had Jennifer Garner in it.

Frank Castle will be played by... Thomas Jane

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » June 16, 2003, 5:58 pm

Fans are always concerned with casting decisions. Just look at Spiderman for crying out loud. I NEVER would've chosen him for the part, and he's awsome.

I think things will work out for the best.

Btw, I did see the original Punisher as well as, Lord save me, Captian America. Holy shit those were, well, shit.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » June 16, 2003, 10:45 pm

I'm sorry but Spiderman sucked. Maybe in Spiderman 2 they can work on people whose mouths move when they talk. X-Men 2 was the definative Marvel Comic movie. If anything else, it put more pressure on every other Marvel project in the future to push for a better movie.

noel · Post by **noel** » June 16, 2003, 10:49 pm

Zamtuk wrote:I'm sorry but Spiderman sucked. Maybe in Spiderman 2 they can work on people whose mouths move when they talk. X-Men 2 was the definative Marvel Comic movie. If anything else, it put more pressure on every other Marvel project in the future to push for a better movie.

Really? Why do you say that?

Tobey was perfect as Peter Parker, and lets not forgeto Kirsten Dunst. The only thing I really didn't like was the ridiculous Green Goblin costume.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » June 16, 2003, 10:59 pm

Tobey was good and yeah, Kirsten was great as usual. Casting wasn't the problem at all. I guess I really didn't like the approach it took to making the film. Most of the comic book movies to date geared their movies toward adults, this one however didn't. The corny lines that were said (again, to no moving mouth), the dopey paper editor (name slips me), the rofl beating up of the school 'bully', that cafeteria scene, it was too kiddy for my liking I guess. I also really hated the end fight of the movie, that alone made me want a refund. Perhaps it is the equivalent to X-Men 1 where you were introduced to everyone. And maybe the second one will trump the first one in everyway possible like X-Men. Then again, maybe it won't. I will still see Spiderman 2 most likely when it comes out. I just wasn't overly impressed at all with this movie.

Drolgin Steingrinder · Post by **Drolgin Steingrinder** » June 16, 2003, 11:07 pm

Judging from the workprint that I so heinously downloaded (yes, i r bad person~), it will suck. Unless they redo the editing to change the pace of the entire movie, unless there's a lot of stuff that ended up on the floor of the editing room that could somehow make the stupid thing make sense...

Ang Lee went for a 50s style tv-show in the editing, lots of split screen images, but at the heart of the matter is that the pace is just dull as hell, and there are holes in the story the size of the Grand Canyon.

Oh, and Nick Nolte plays one of the single most confused, fucked up characters ever - and I don't mean that in a good way.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » June 17, 2003, 2:35 am

Not being a comic fan, much less knowing anything about the storylines, etc... I must say that I have been impressed--most notably, Spiderman.

I dug the Hulk TV show in the 70s of course, but I really know nothing as far as the intent laid forth by the books.

Question: Where do those twins with the "shape of an ice dildo" come in? I think they would make a mildly entertaining flick...

noel · Post by **noel** » June 17, 2003, 6:29 am

The wonder twins were to my knowledge only characters on the 'Superfriends' (DC Comics/Hanna Barbara) TV show, and were never actually in a DC comics book.

Burke · Post by **Burke** » June 17, 2003, 9:25 am

I wouldn't group the Dolph Lundgren Punisher or the old Captain America with the Marvel films of the last few years. It's as if Marvel wasn't even involved with those.

What was the casting decision in the new one? Don't tell me it is Vin Diesel...

An actor named Thomas Jane, he was in The Sweetest Thing and Dreamcatcher most recently. This will be his first hardass role I believe.
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Jane,%20Thomas

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » June 17, 2003, 1:43 pm

The corny lines are really spiderman's character though. I enjoyed it but it was interesting how spotty the effects were, sometimes great, sometimes really damn poor.

A lot of the radio ads I've started hearing have been pumping the Hulk via good reviews more than anything else. They are trying to really pit it as a solid, serious movie. I think it's going to cap around the 150-200 range domestic so I'm not really sure I can say it will flop. Maybe just a flip or something

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » June 17, 2003, 2:25 pm

Thomas Jane was Mickey Mantle in 61*. He played that part damned well so I think it is a great role for him.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » June 17, 2003, 8:18 pm

I thought spiderman was a terrible movie, it was aimed towards kids, and the costumes and fighting scenes looked like something out of power rangers or something similar, that and i always thought spiderman was a stupid little pussy in a dumb costume

I liked dardevil becouse of its pure cheezyness, in an army of darkness way, a blind dude beatin the shit outa people with clubs, you cant go TOO wrong with that

Xmen 2 i thought was portrayed really well, in a believable setting and good special effects and everything else, that and magneto has always been the most badass super hero/villain

these comic book movies are always hard to predict, they can either be terrible, pretty good, or funny becouse of there cheezyness, your not going to get a braveheart or gladiator epic out of one of em obviosuly

...godamn this site needs a spellcheck

Kargyle · Post by **Kargyle** » June 18, 2003, 11:32 am

Spiderman a stupid pussy? You must have watched too much electric company as a kid. Spiderman is a badass.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » June 18, 2003, 12:57 pm

What kind of crack are you smoking. Spiderman is teh own.

As for Hulk, I predict that it will have a huge opening weekend then drop off very sharply.

miir · Post by **miir** » June 18, 2003, 1:06 pm

Hulk is gonna be shit.
Too much CGI