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No Country For Old Men

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http://www.nocountryforoldmen-themovie.com/

This is the trailer for the new Coen brothers flick.

I love most of their films, but the last two (The Ladykillers, Intolerable Cruelty) were big disappointments for me.

It looks like this will have more in common with their darker films such as Blood Simple, Miller's Crossing and Fargo, but whether it will disappoint or not is up in the air...

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I really enjoyed the book - it is by Cormac McCarthy, who recently wrote The Road (which I enjoyed as well). I know of at least one other Cormac McCarthy novel that was turned into a movie - All The Pretty Horses.

I will go see No Country For Old Men just because I am a fan of the Coen brothers as well as Cormac McCarthy's storytelling.
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The trailer looks nice :). Im looking forward to seeing this.

And yeah, Ladykillers were a disaster, havent seen intolerable cruelty, and dont plan to :)
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Saw this over the weekend. I'm still trying to process exactly how I feel about it. I think my girlfriend's opinion of it is poisoning mine; when it finished she said "well there's 2 hours of our lives we'll never have back."

I liked it. A lot, really, until the end. The end doesn't sit exactly right with me. I feel like I understand what they were doing with it, but that doesn't change the fact that I wish it would have ended differently.
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It just ended. Tommy Lee Jones had his little soliloquy and then roll credits. That, coupled with the extremely anti-climactic ending of Llewellyn, took away from what I was feeling was an absolutely brilliant movie. I still really liked it overall and could quite possibly change my feelings on the ending with subsequent viewings.
If you like the Coen brothers (I'm a fan of all of their movies, even The Ladykillers), I don't think you'll dislike this movie. There are some laugh-out-loud parts of this movie that come at times that you wouldn't expect to laugh. The cinematography was great, as always; it was shot beautifully and they did a good job of transporting you to West Texas in 1980. I thought the cast did a tremendous job, Tommy Lee Jones gave one of his best performances, and the guy who played Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem) did a phenomenal job. He was as creepy a character as I can remember ever being portrayed on screen. I actually even liked Josh Brolin in it, and I'd never really thought too highly of him.

I'd recommend it to anyone who is a Coen bros. fan or who doesn't have ADD and can sit through a movie where there isn't always a lot going on. If you're looking for an action movie or something, you will probably be disappointed.

I'm interested to hear other people's thoughts. It's currently at 95% on RottenTomatoes.
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Saw it recently as well. I have to say I have mixed feelings about the movie as a whole. Favorite parts were with the most action and suspense, but some parts seemed too unconventional for my liking. Friends of mine love it or hate it, but most critics gave it very high markings.
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I walked out of the theater thinking that the movie was for old men, because only they would have the attention span to listen to Tommy Lee Jones' last speech in its entirety.
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Great movie.
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It was nothing short of hilarious hearing about 10 people around the theater give a half-whispered/half-angry "What?" when the credits appeared (the ending to the Rules of Attraction came to mind). As much as I thoroughly enjoyed the movie and the theme that you can't stop what's coming, I wish Moss's death hadn't been portrayed so indifferently. I would have preferred to actually see the shoot-out. His wife's death, however, was perfect... just showing Chigurh walk outside and check his boots for blood. Honestly, Javier Bardem made this movie. Everyone else was great, but his character Chigurh was just badass, right down to that creepy voice.
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Yep this movie is amazing.
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I agree with the death of Moss though. I actually liked how it ended, but the way they dealt with his death was disappointing.
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I kept putting off going to this movie while I waited on a friend to finally have the time to go. I gave up on waiting, and I went to see it yesterday. I loved it. I was worried that I would be the only person in the theater when I purchased my tickets online, but I saw that it was sold out when I got there. The shows before and two after it were sold out as well. I was shocked. When was this released? Granted, the "normal" audiences at the Alamo Drafthouse are a bit...different, which I believe might be a reason for all of the sold out shows. Plus, it rocked :P
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I liked the way the movie ended. I felt that it was basically just a continuation of the speech in the beginning of the movie. When I thought about scenes that we did not get to actually see, like the final shootout with Llewelyn Moss, it made sense to me. The movie felt like it was about Sheriff Bell (Jones) reflecting on how much has, and has not, changed over the years. You knew that he was getting ready to "hang up his spurs," and it was reflected in the way he went about his investigation (hiding behind the deputy when entering the trailer). The fact that we don't see him actually trying to catch Chigurh after checking the hotel room where Moss died made me feel that he had really given up. His final speech about the dream where his father went ahead of him to light a fire, made me think he was ready "to go." He had done all that he needed in life and was resigned to the fact that it was basically over for him once he retired.
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I enjoyed this movie as well. the antagonist was fucking brilliant! Great sound and art direction as well. They really know how to paint a (pretty)ugly picture. Although this is not my favorite work of theirs, it ranks up there with Barton Fink, Fargo and Millers Crossing, imo.
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Very good movie. Just saw it with the wife. She didn't like it, because it didn't have a nice hollywood ending where the bad guy dies and every one is happy afterwards. I enjoy a realistic ending like this. It was harsh, but so real.

Only complaints are not really knowing who the killer was, what his story was, what was his role, etc. And of course, what the fuck happened to Moss. How did it go down? Oh well.
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Just goes to show your mother-in-law is a lot more dangerous than you think.





Thumbs up, loved it.
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Good movie.

The sound effects were outstanding which made the movie for me.

As for the ending:
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I don't mind the way it ended. You're left guessing if he killed the Llewellyn's wife or not. With the earlier scene where the 1958 quarter flip is called correctly, it's established that the antagonist doesn't kill everyone, although he does pretty much kill almost everyone.

I enjoyed the twist that the cow killing air thing brought to the movie. That, along with gratuitous use of silencers made for a nice and quiet movie so you could enjoy the other sound effects.

The only part of the movie I had questions about was when Llewellyn returned with the water. That's a little crazy. Did he promise to bring him water? I can't recall.

Tommy Lee's ending words could have been left out I suppose.
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I thought Woody's role should have been filled with a less popular face/actor since it wasn't a big part of the story.
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I am guessing that he felt guilty about leaving the guy there asking for water. He (Llewellyn) wasn't a bad guy, but he was caught up in a bad situation.
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I really enjoyed this movie a whole lot. I didn't see the ending coming, and feel about the same as everyone above.
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Was it just me, or did anyone else find Tommy Lee Jones role pointless to the movie? He was always a step behind (except for that one part where he was ahead, but the Mexicans spoiled that (right?)). He never had any interaction with Anton or Llewellyn which did kind of bother me at the end. I understand what they were saying with his part in the movie, but I would have liked some sort of confrontation in this movie between any of the three main characters.

Winnow, Anton did kill Llewellyn's wife. I thought that was the best part of the movie when he checked his boots for blood.
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Was it just me, or did anyone else find Tommy Lee Jones role pointless to the movie?
You'll probably want to want the movie again. Who was narrating at the beginning of the movie? Who was narrating at the end of the movie? Watch it again and listen to the dialog.
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Sylvus wrote:I think my girlfriend's opinion of it is poisoning mine; when it finished she said "well there's 2 hours of our lives we'll never have back."
That pretty much sums it up.
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I enjoyed the movie quite a bit, but I honestly don't see why so many people are fawning over it so much. I don't mean people posting here, but the attention this film got in the entertainment media is a bit surprising.
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Avoided the spoilers and finally watched this last night (borrowed DVD for the win!).
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I too was a bit disappointed in Moss' death being so anticlimatic. Yes, I was expecting an epic combat of survivalism/strategy/tactics between the two. They go through this HUGE BUILDUP of setting the two as somewhat equal, lethal, canny opponents and then Moss gets gunned down by the hapless Mexicans off-camera.

Honestly, I was expecting a twist where someone "good" would turn out to be "evil". For some reason I thought the sheriff would be meeting the psycho (in the cabin where the wheelchair guy was) and have it turn out they were old Vietnam buddies and then Tommy Lee guns him down and takes the money for himself.

That might have been a little "Hard Rain" though...
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I too was a bit disappointed in Moss' death being so anticlimatic. Yes, I was expecting an epic combat of survivalism/strategy/tactics between the two. They go through this HUGE BUILDUP of setting the two as somewhat equal, lethal, canny opponents and then Moss gets gunned down by the hapless Mexicans off-camera.
And that is one of the reason's people rave about this film. It was supposed to be like that. It's supposed to hit you on the head like a bat to show you the movie is not about him, bam he's dead, get over it and move on.

The story is just not your typical Hollywood crap. If you'd have seen some fight between Moss and Chigurh, it just would have been so typical and cliche.
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I disagree with part of what you say.
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valryte wrote:It's supposed to hit you on the head like a bat to show you the movie is not about him, bam he's dead, get over it and move on.

The story is just not your typical Hollywood crap. If you'd have seen some fight between Moss and Chigurh, it just would have been so typical and cliche.
The movie spends over half of it's time focused on Moss, to say the movie isn't about him is bullshit. Now I agree that it's supposed to hit you on the head like a bat. That it did. I couldn't bring myself that it was actually him on the floor.

I also saw no point in the car accident at the end. What value did it add? Either cinematic or to the plot? It didn't lead to Chigurh's capture or anything else of relevance. They could have ended that particular scene with him checking his boots for blood, which was a brilliant answer to "did he kill her or not?"
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If you factor in some of the prevalent themes in the movie, Moss's death and the car accident make perfect sense. Chance, fate, etc... As much as Moss tried and it looked like he was actually going to escape, in the end death got him. As for the car accident, it just shows you that even Chigurh can't escape chance/fate either, death chases him as well, though it didn't get him this time, it will eventually and it can be as random as a car accident.
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If they REALLY wanted to illustrate that point they could have had the sherriff, who had just removed himself from the crazy cycle, get hit and killed in a random car accident at the end... or simply have the existing one be fatal.
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And now you're just being silly. Might as well just put subtitles explaining everything to you...
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