I really wish there was something similar in US schools without the requirement for them to be actual exchange programs. The difference in distance would be one factor though, since a trip to Poland from here could not be a day-trip. I still feel that I was very lucky to visit there during my time as an exchange student in the early 90's. I wish everyone would have the opportunity to not only learn the history of others through visiting the locations involved, but experience "life" with a family outside of their own cultural norm.Britain to Send Students to Auschwitz to Learn About Holocaust
The British government will sponsor student trips to the Auschwitz concentration camp in an effort to keep the Holocaust relevant for younger generations. It's an issue that Germany is all too familiar with.
Underscoring the need to ensure that the lessons of the Nazi genocide live on with a new generation, the British government extended a 2006 pilot program that funds day trips for two students from every secondary school in England to the death camp in present-day Poland.
Britain's Schools Minister, Jim Knight said the scheme will now be made permanent with 1.5 million pounds (2 million euros) of government money a year until 2011, and the possibility of more funding after that. The idea behind the visit is for teenagers to educate their classmates on their return.
Historians estimate 1.1 million people died at the hands of Poland's German occupiers at Auschwitz-Birkenau between 1940 and 1945, either from asphyxiation with Zyklon B gas in the notorious gas chambers or from starvation, disease or exhaustion. They included Jews, Roma, Sinti, gays, disabled and blacks.
Turning the educated into the educators
"The Holocaust was one of the most significant events in world history," Knight told The Times. "What strikes me is the sheer scale of it and how industrialized and mechanized the process of killing people became at Auschwitz."
"It was not hot-blooded brutality, it happened in a very planned way, with some people designing the process of death and others carrying it out," Knight said. "Every young person should have an understanding of this."
The sixth-form students, who are typically between 16 and 18 years old, will meet with an Auschwitz survivor, be shown around the camp's barracks and gas chambers, see the piles of hair, shoes, clothes and other items seized by the Nazis and hear first-hand accounts of life and death in the concentration camp. They are to fly to Poland and back in a day.
The government will shoulder the main financial cost of each student's trip -- 200 pounds per trip over the next three years while their schools must raise the remaining 100 pounds.
Britain's Holocaust Education Trust, an influential group responsible for making the Holocaust an integral part of the country's National Curriculum for History in 1991, is to administer the program.
Karen Pollock, chief executive of the Holocaust Education Trust, told The Times the project aimed to turn the educated into educators.
"We are very aware that there's going to be a time where there aren't any survivors left to go into schools," Pollock said.
"The young people on these visits themselves become eye witnesses. For a lot of them, it's life-changing. They suddenly realize what they value and they see it as important to challenge prejudice today."
Pollock added that some students who had visited Auschwitz within the framework of the program were inspired to distribute leaflets protesting against the far-right British National Party candidates standing in their local council elections.
Educating young Germans a challenge
Sensitizing current and coming generations about the Holocaust at a time when a generation of survivors is passing away presents a challenge to educators everywhere.
But nowhere is the problem more deeply felt than in Germany, where the Nazi genocide is usually dealt with intensively in secondary schools and visits to the many concentration camps and Holocaust memorials across the country often form an integral part of history lessons.
Yet several studies in recent years show that Germans born after reunification in 1990 know appallingly little about the Holocaust. A recent survey showed that while Hitler is recognized by all, only one in three was aware of the meaning of the word, "Holocaust." Less than one in ten students could identify Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Göbbels.
Many say that one of the most difficult challenges lies in educating young Germans about 20th century history in a way that doesn't alienate them or blame them in any way for the country's dark past.
"The disinterest in history among today's students is largely a psychological reflex because many feel the need to want to positively identify with Germany," Henning Küppers, a history teacher at a secondary school in Stuttgart, told DW-WORLD.DE.
A comic book to teach the Holocaust
Efforts are already underway to replace the traditional teaching of the Holocaust, which many critics say is often strenuously moralistic and ends up exhausting students, with more modern tools.
The Berlin-based Anne Frank Center said last week it planned to introduce a comic book covering key events of the Nazi era in high schools in two German states as a way to educate young students about the past in a way they could relate to.
"It's important to find new approaches to telling the story of the Holocaust in a way that connects with young people," said Thomas Heppener, director of the center.
Many Holocaust memorials in recent years too have begun accommodating school groups by offering them a chance to stay overnight near the former camps or providing interactive aids to replace traditional tours in large groups. Most have recorded exhaustive interviews with Holocaust survivors documenting daily life in the camps and created digital archives.
Updating teaching methods
Horst Seferens, press spokesman of the Sachsenhausen concentration camp memorial in the eastern German state of Brandenburg, which receives visits from school groups each day, said they had modernized their efforts to reach an entire generation of students who are no longer getting their information about the Holocaust within their families who have few links to the event.
About four years ago, the camp put together a CD-ROM featuring profiles of 20 prisoners at the camp and their lives before, during and after imprisonment.
"Getting to know the biographies of former inmates remains the most effective way of getting students to empathize and understand what really happened during the Holocaust," Seferens told DW-WORLD.DE. "It leaves a lasting impression."
Some years ago, the Buchenwald concentration camp, near Weimar, embarked on a unique project, cooperating with design students at the local Bauhaus University to come up with souvenirs that visitors could take with them.
Others say it's time to view concentration camps and Holocaust memorials in a broader light, one that reflects present-day realities.
"We shouldn't see these camps only in terms of guilt complexes and the dark past but also symbolic of the persecution of minorities and the brutalities that exist in parts of the world today," said Peter Lautzas of the Association of German History Teachers.
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One of my Senior school trips was to Munich. We spent half a day touring Dachau right outside the city which was one of the bigger concentration camps. It was an eye opening experience.
During my Junior year in high school, which was in Las Vegas before I moved to Switzerland, I took a semester course on the Holocaust. For a public U.S. school, it was one of the better classes I had but was nothing compared to actually visiting one of the camps in person, standing in the actual rooms and seeing a picture of the actual room you were in with dead bodies piled to the ceiling. It was surreal. I even examined the door frame in the picture and noted the same dents and marking on the door as another verification that I would have been buried in dead bodies where I was standing.
It wouldn't be a fun part of a vacation trip to Europe but I think everyone should see for themselves at some time in their life.
During my Junior year in high school, which was in Las Vegas before I moved to Switzerland, I took a semester course on the Holocaust. For a public U.S. school, it was one of the better classes I had but was nothing compared to actually visiting one of the camps in person, standing in the actual rooms and seeing a picture of the actual room you were in with dead bodies piled to the ceiling. It was surreal. I even examined the door frame in the picture and noted the same dents and marking on the door as another verification that I would have been buried in dead bodies where I was standing.
It wouldn't be a fun part of a vacation trip to Europe but I think everyone should see for themselves at some time in their life.
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When we went to Europe we finished our trip in Munich. We had the option to see Dachau on the last day of the trip and we were really torn. We wanted the kids to understand what happened, but to finish a 2 week vacation with that trip seemed pretty depressing.
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My parents took me to a concentration camp when I was about 6 but I cannot remember which one, so unfortunately that experience was somewhat lost on me.
I have been to the mass graves in Normandy though, semi recently. They are very intense places, with thousands upon thousands of graves all neatly lined up, and tended to with loving care and kept beautifully tidy and peaceful. I've been on the beaches and stuff as well. It really brings it home to you, as much as is possible in a world where we are thankfully lucky enough that such horrendous acts do not take place on such a grand scale as the two world wars.
I think it would be very heartbraking to go to a concentration camp now.
I have been to the mass graves in Normandy though, semi recently. They are very intense places, with thousands upon thousands of graves all neatly lined up, and tended to with loving care and kept beautifully tidy and peaceful. I've been on the beaches and stuff as well. It really brings it home to you, as much as is possible in a world where we are thankfully lucky enough that such horrendous acts do not take place on such a grand scale as the two world wars.
I think it would be very heartbraking to go to a concentration camp now.
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That was kind of the thought process we had Nick. My daughter was 8 and son 11, we were concerned about the impact that would have. If it was early on the trip we would have probably done it, but we did not want their last impression of Europe to be something so painful and difficult to take.
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My dad was taken there when he was still a kid. He told me that even then, decades after the war, the place still smelled of death and there was a strange feeling in the air. His biggest memory is of bloodstained walls in various places.
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My dad took me and my sister to Dachau when we were young-ish, around 10 yrs old.
I remember walking through the 'showers', hearing about the ash, and in the museum they had lamp shades made out of human skin.
It didn't warp or scar a young mind, but it sure made an impression. If I had kids I would take them.
I remember walking through the 'showers', hearing about the ash, and in the museum they had lamp shades made out of human skin.
It didn't warp or scar a young mind, but it sure made an impression. If I had kids I would take them.
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The thing that bothers me, "education" on the subject always seems to include the viewpoints of an ex-prisoner. The real education we need would be the memoirs of someone who helped it happen. What could make an otherwise normal person conciosly and knowingly help design, implement, or facilitate the systematic extermination of people for no reason other than "They are different". If we want it to never happen again, we should learn about how and why it happened, not just "why its bad".
Of course the main problem is, those involed where strung up or forced into hiding. Has anyone here ever read Albert Speer's book? He wasnt directly involved perse, but perhaps he knew enough about it to give his outlook at the time. I think I'll grab that book myself.
Of course the main problem is, those involed where strung up or forced into hiding. Has anyone here ever read Albert Speer's book? He wasnt directly involved perse, but perhaps he knew enough about it to give his outlook at the time. I think I'll grab that book myself.
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Read "The Banality of Evil" by Hannah Arendt. It discusses Eichmann, who was "just" a people mover.
Also, you could go pick up "The Lucifer Effect" by Philip Zimbardo. It basically directly deals with the question you posed, although his point is that it isn't "bad apples" but "bad barrels" that usually cause evil acts to occur. I heard him give a lecture a couple months ago, was quite good (although he was very dispariging of the current administration and the results of their decisions in Iraq - which I enjoyed but others may not)
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Also, you could go pick up "The Lucifer Effect" by Philip Zimbardo. It basically directly deals with the question you posed, although his point is that it isn't "bad apples" but "bad barrels" that usually cause evil acts to occur. I heard him give a lecture a couple months ago, was quite good (although he was very dispariging of the current administration and the results of their decisions in Iraq - which I enjoyed but others may not)
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