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English-only protection under attack

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http://opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110010881
It's been less than a week since New York's Sen. Hillary Clinton and Gov. Eliot Spitzer had to climb down from their support of driver's licenses for illegal aliens. Now House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has moved to kill an amendment that would protect employers from federal lawsuits for requiring their workers to speak English. Among the employers targeted by such lawsuits: the Salvation Army.

Sen. Lamar Alexander, a moderate Republican from Tennessee, is dumbstruck that legislation he views as simple common sense would be blocked. He noted that the full Senate passed his amendment to shield the Salvation Army by 75-19 last month, and the House followed suit with a 218-186 vote just this month. "I cannot imagine that the framers of the 1964 Civil Rights Act intended to say that it's discrimination for a shoe shop owner to say to his or her employee, 'I want you to be able to speak America's common language on the job,' " he told the Senate last Thursday.

But that's exactly what the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is trying to do. In March the EEOC sued the Salvation Army because its thrift store in Framingham, Mass., required its employees to speak English on the job. The requirement was clearly posted and employees were given a year to learn the language. The EEOC claimed the store had fired two Hispanic employees for continuing to speak Spanish on the job. It said that the firings violated the law because the English-only policy was not "relevant" to job performance or safety.

"If it is not relevant, it is discriminatory, it is gratuitous, it is a subterfuge to discriminate against people based on national origin," says Rep. Charles Gonzalez of Texas, one of several Hispanic Democrats in the House who threatened to block Ms. Pelosi's attempts to curtail the Alternative Minimum Tax unless she killed the Alexander amendment.


The confrontation on the night of Nov. 8 was ugly. Members of the Hispanic Caucus initially voted against the rule allowing debate on a tax bill that included the AMT "patch," which for a year would protect some 23 million Americans from being kicked into a higher income tax bracket.

Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, a moderate from Maryland, was beside himself. Congressional Quarterly reports that he jabbed his finger on the House floor at Joe Baca, the California Democrat who chairs the Hispanic Caucus, and yelled, "How dare you destroy this party? This will be the worst loss in 10 years."

Mr. Baca was having none of it. "You see this on the voting board?," he yelled back. "This is against me. This is against me personally." Luckily for Democrats, C-Span's microphones did not pick up the exchange. But it was audible to reporters in the press gallery. They also heard Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois say that English-only efforts were symbolic of "bigotry and prejudice" against those who speak other languages.

After testy negotiations, the Hispanic Caucus finally agreed to let the tax bill proceed after extracting a promise from Ms. Pelosi that the House will not vote on the bill funding the Justice and Commerce Departments unless the English-only protection language is dropped. "There ain't going to be a bill" with the Alexander language, Mr. Baca has told reporters.

Sen. Alexander says that if that's the case, "thousands of small businesses across America will have to show there is some special reason to justify requiring their employees to speak our country's common language on the job." He notes that the number of EEOC actions against English-only policies grew to some 200 last year from 32 a decade ago. In an attempt at compromise, he has offered watered-down language that would still allow the EEOC to file many actions, but he says House Democrats rejected it.

Mr. Alexander says his battle is about far more than what language is spoken on a shop floor. "The EEOC actions turn diversity, our greatest strength, against the interests of our common future as Americans," he told me.


The late Albert Shanker, head of the American Federation of Teachers, once pointed out that public schools were established in this country largely "to help mostly immigrant children learn the three R's and what it means to be an American, with the hope that they would go home and teach their parents the principles in the Constitution and the Declaration that unite us."

Mr. Alexander says that noble effort is in danger of being undermined: "We have spent the last 40 years in our country celebrating diversity at the expense of unity. One way to create that unity is to value, not devalue, our common language, English."

The battle over Mr. Alexander's amendment is about whether a consensus that used to unite liberals and conservatives in this country can continue to hold. If it can't, expect the issue to become a flashpoint in the 2008 elections. Republicans have their political problems with Hispanics over some of their approaches to illegal immigration, but they may be nothing compared to the problems Democrats have if they continue to cave in to their anti-assimilation extremists.
I fully support the right of an employer to require english only speech, and the workers right to take their labor elsewhere like back to mexico.
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My biggest, by far, pet peeve is people who live in this country that can't speak the fucking language. I can't express how fucking stupid I find this shit to be.
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Siji wrote:My biggest, by far, pet peeve is people who live in this country that can't speak the fucking language. I can't express how fucking stupid I find this shit to be.
Interestingly though, there are at least some instances of English speaking folks doing the same thing, in Japan and China off the top of my head. However, this amendment should go through.
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I don't really give a shit if it's English or something else, but I think it'd be pretty nice if the world just picked a language (Esperanto!) and everyone learned it. Or scientists developed a Babelfish.
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Sylvus wrote:I don't really give a shit if it's English or something else, but I think it'd be pretty nice if the world just picked a language (Esperanto!) and everyone learned it. Or scientists developed a Babelfish.
You certainly don't mean that. Being a liberal such as yourself, you must respect other people and their cultures and traditions.
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Sylvus wrote:I don't really give a shit if it's English or something else, but I think it'd be pretty nice if the world just picked a language (Esperanto!) and everyone learned it. Or scientists developed a Babelfish.
You certainly don't mean that. Being a liberal such as yourself, you must respect other people and their cultures and traditions.
He said it'd be nice, not that he thinks everyone should have to. I suggest Klingon.

As for this particular issue I think it's fine for employers in America to require their employees to speak english.
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Sylvus wrote:I don't really give a shit if it's English or something else, but I think it'd be pretty nice if the world just picked a language (Esperanto!) and everyone learned it. Or scientists developed a Babelfish.
You certainly don't mean that. Being a liberal such as yourself, you must respect other people and their cultures and traditions.
I'm not a liberal. Sure, some of my views may fall in line with those of a liberal, but I like to think about individual issues and make a decision on them rather than checking the pocket guide that some people here seem to have to decide if an issue/candidate/idea is something I'm supposed to subscribe to or not.

I'm not sure how encouraging everyone to learn a common language is disrespecting other people and their cultures though.
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He doesn't even know what "liberal" even means, it's really not worth the effort.
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