My favourite mollifying quote:ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) - A leak from a feeder line carrying North Slope crude oil to the trans-Alaska pipeline caused a spill and triggered a shutdown of some activities at the biggest U.S. oil field, state and oil company officials said on Thursday.
Whew, that's a relief...The spilled oil appears to be contained on the snow-covered tundra, which should make it easier for crews to remove.
Maybe you should panic for the whole board so we don't have to?The spilled oil appears to be contained on the snow-covered tundra, which should make it easier for crews to remove, said Lynda Giguere, a spokeswoman for Alaska's environmental conservation department.
"Because it's cold, it's going to gel. That's the good news," said Giguere. "The other good news is we know how to pick that up."
Is it me or is this a severely obnoxious pattern with liberals. Quote, write about, or talk about a story, but cut pieces of it to put their own pathetic bullshit spin on it ? Eh, I could be wrong.... but I doubt it.Metanis wrote:I guess using the whole quote would have taken some of the drama away, right Arbor?
Maybe you should panic for the whole board so we don't have to?The spilled oil appears to be contained on the snow-covered tundra, which should make it easier for crews to remove, said Lynda Giguere, a spokeswoman for Alaska's environmental conservation department.
"Because it's cold, it's going to gel. That's the good news," said Giguere. "The other good news is we know how to pick that up."
Is it me, or is this a severely clueless pattern with the ... with Funk. Quote, write about, or talk about the story, but miss the fucking point completely.Funkmasterr wrote:Is it me or is this a severely obnoxious pattern with liberals. Quote, write about, or talk about a story, but cut pieces of it to put their own pathetic bullshit spin on it ? Eh, I could be wrong.... but I doubt it.Metanis wrote:I guess using the whole quote would have taken some of the drama away, right Arbor?
Maybe you should panic for the whole board so we don't have to?The spilled oil appears to be contained on the snow-covered tundra, which should make it easier for crews to remove, said Lynda Giguere, a spokeswoman for Alaska's environmental conservation department.
"Because it's cold, it's going to gel. That's the good news," said Giguere. "The other good news is we know how to pick that up."
Ummmm, sorry dude, Funk actually didn't miss the point however it appears that YOU have.Zaelath wrote:Is it me, or is this a severely clueless pattern with the ... with Funk. Quote, write about, or talk about the story, but miss the fucking point completely.Funkmasterr wrote:Is it me or is this a severely obnoxious pattern with liberals. Quote, write about, or talk about a story, but cut pieces of it to put their own pathetic bullshit spin on it ? Eh, I could be wrong.... but I doubt it.Metanis wrote:I guess using the whole quote would have taken some of the drama away, right Arbor?
Maybe you should panic for the whole board so we don't have to?The spilled oil appears to be contained on the snow-covered tundra, which should make it easier for crews to remove, said Lynda Giguere, a spokeswoman for Alaska's environmental conservation department.
"Because it's cold, it's going to gel. That's the good news," said Giguere. "The other good news is we know how to pick that up."
Whether or not this particular spill is a catastrophe or not isn't really the issue; which would be if you can drill the ANWR without contamination as the oil companies pretend you can.
In fact, the part that was omitted was rather reduntant. The text paraphrased the quote that followed. A common journalist tactic to pad, spin or emphasise a point.
Oh yeah? Maybe it's YOU that has missed the point!!Metanis wrote:Ummmm, sorry dude, Funk actually didn't miss the point however it appears that YOU have.Zaelath wrote:Is it me, or is this a severely clueless pattern with the ... with Funk. Quote, write about, or talk about the story, but miss the fucking point completely.Funkmasterr wrote:Is it me or is this a severely obnoxious pattern with liberals. Quote, write about, or talk about a story, but cut pieces of it to put their own pathetic bullshit spin on it ? Eh, I could be wrong.... but I doubt it.Metanis wrote:I guess using the whole quote would have taken some of the drama away, right Arbor?
Maybe you should panic for the whole board so we don't have to?The spilled oil appears to be contained on the snow-covered tundra, which should make it easier for crews to remove, said Lynda Giguere, a spokeswoman for Alaska's environmental conservation department.
"Because it's cold, it's going to gel. That's the good news," said Giguere. "The other good news is we know how to pick that up."
Whether or not this particular spill is a catastrophe or not isn't really the issue; which would be if you can drill the ANWR without contamination as the oil companies pretend you can.
In fact, the part that was omitted was rather reduntant. The text paraphrased the quote that followed. A common journalist tactic to pad, spin or emphasise a point.
What's your next argument? "I know you are, but what am I?"Metanis wrote: Ummmm, sorry dude, Funk actually didn't miss the point however it appears that YOU have.
Although it is cold and it will gel this time it does prove a valid point: The oild industry does not put nearly enough time and money (which they surely have no lack off) into securing their systems to be allowed to drill there.Metanis wrote:I guess using the whole quote would have taken some of the drama away, right Arbor?
Maybe you should panic for the whole board so we don't have to?The spilled oil appears to be contained on the snow-covered tundra, which should make it easier for crews to remove, said Lynda Giguere, a spokeswoman for Alaska's environmental conservation department.
"Because it's cold, it's going to gel. That's the good news," said Giguere. "The other good news is we know how to pick that up."
YOu know you might get away with calling this Liberal Bullshit Spin if you chose a different topic. Saying that in this case shows a lack of basic knowledge of physics, chemistry and common fucking sense.Funkmasterr wrote:Is it me or is this a severely obnoxious pattern with liberals. Quote, write about, or talk about a story, but cut pieces of it to put their own pathetic bullshit spin on it ? Eh, I could be wrong.... but I doubt it.Metanis wrote:I guess using the whole quote would have taken some of the drama away, right Arbor?
Maybe you should panic for the whole board so we don't have to?The spilled oil appears to be contained on the snow-covered tundra, which should make it easier for crews to remove, said Lynda Giguere, a spokeswoman for Alaska's environmental conservation department.
"Because it's cold, it's going to gel. That's the good news," said Giguere. "The other good news is we know how to pick that up."
The topic at hand had little or nothing to do with what I said, I was merely stating a fact.Wulfran wrote:YOu know you might get away with calling this Liberal Bullshit Spin if you chose a different topic. Saying that in this case shows a lack of basic knowledge of physics, chemistry and common fucking sense.Funkmasterr wrote:Is it me or is this a severely obnoxious pattern with liberals. Quote, write about, or talk about a story, but cut pieces of it to put their own pathetic bullshit spin on it ? Eh, I could be wrong.... but I doubt it.Metanis wrote:I guess using the whole quote would have taken some of the drama away, right Arbor?
Maybe you should panic for the whole board so we don't have to?The spilled oil appears to be contained on the snow-covered tundra, which should make it easier for crews to remove, said Lynda Giguere, a spokeswoman for Alaska's environmental conservation department.
"Because it's cold, it's going to gel. That's the good news," said Giguere. "The other good news is we know how to pick that up."
a) Oil in a pipeline is not ambient temperature or the fucking stuff wouldn't move up there. It is HEATED probably in the neighbourhood of 100-120F at some points to ensure that it won't gel before it gets to the next heating station.
b) Hot liquid doesn't cool instantly. It won't cool for a while at a leak site with more hot liquid cascading onto it, so it will continue to melt snow and the frozen ground, making an oily mud on the surface.
c) Hot oil will do like any other hot liquid in snow and migrate UNDER it, as it is heavier/more dense, until it pools, cools and possibly "gels". There will be some associated melting above it but not always.
d) Depending on the stage of the process the oil has undergone, there may be volumes of salt water (formation water) in it. I'm assuming this will be low( > 0.5%) but salt water is a more dangerous contaminant and has a lower freezing point.
Some of the above is more readily apparent to me as someone who has worked in the Oil and Gas E&P industry, in similar climes, but a lot of that is common sense/elementary school sciences. But keep believing the spin from some talking head the oil company hired as they downplay the damage this does...
I disagree in that I think that each topic deserves its own thoughts about the issue at hand. As far as "quotes out of context", politics is full of them from all sides and in this case, all Arb did was ignore some vapid garbage from a spin doctor trying to minimize this incident.Funkmasterr wrote: The topic at hand had little or nothing to do with what I said, I was merely stating a fact.
While it may be true that there is a valid point made in this topic, it doesn't mean the method I mentioned wasn't used. It is used in almost EVERY single thread in this forum where something that was written or said elsewhere is quoted.
I can, but you must not be able to.Arborealus wrote:Ooooooh I was hiding the full quote cleverly by posting a link to the whole fucking article...aren't I devious!
I even included the point about it being easier to remove. How does the rest of the paragraph add significantly? The next sentence just elaborates details of the thought and contains zero revelation, hence I omitted it. Editing nonessential details is not bowdlerizing. Great it gels and we know how to remove that...so it is easier to remove which I included in my quote...
English motherfuckers can you read it?
You were probably trying to save time because you were late for your appointment to get an abortion, as you liberals are wont to do.Arborealus wrote:Ooooooh I was hiding the full quote cleverly by posting a link to the whole fucking article...aren't I devious!
Are you sure that's where you want to go? You're not fit to carry Arb's intellectual jockstrap, let alone spar with him. Oh shit, I didn't quote your whole post...Funkmasterr wrote:I can, but you must not be able to.
Canada whole-heartedly welcomes your attempts to slant drill into our oil sands, you walking catastrophic birth defect.Cartalas wrote:We could solve the problem with slant drilling!!! We could suck Canada dry
Mom?kyoukan wrote:Canada whole-heartedly welcomes your attempts to slant drill into our oil sands, you walking catastrophic birth defect.Cartalas wrote:We could solve the problem with slant drilling!!! We could suck Canada dry
Now that someone has acknowledged this particular lack of humour after your second or third time posing it and being totally ignored, will you please stop using it?
First of all...who gave you authority to decide what can and can't be done here. Fuck you.Funkmasterr wrote:I don't care the context it was in, fact of the matter is this specific topic may be far from the best example from these boards of what im talking about, but im sick and fucking tired of it happening. If you want to quote something, quote the entire thing, or don't do it at all, period.
