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Fucking Copy-Protected CD's

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So I bought Our Lady Peace's Healthy in Paranoid Times CD and Sony/BMG saw it fit to make this disk using Sunncom's copy protection system.

This means such gems as the following:

Q: Why is the music scrambled when I try to play the CD on my computer?

A: Please note that the only supported way to play the music directly off the CD in a computer is to use the MediaMax software interface that runs automatically when the CD is inserted.
Q: Can I transfer this CD to my iPod?


A: Apple's proprietary technology does not support secure music formats other than their own, and therefore the secure music file formats on this disc can’t be directly imported into iTunes or iPods.

While these discs aren’t currently compatible with iTunes or iPod, we are actively working on an acceptable solution, and have reached out to Apple in hopes of addressing this issue. To help speed this effort, we ask that you use the following link to contact Apple and ask them to provide a solution that would easily allow you to move content from protected CDs into iTunes or onto your iPod. http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipod.html

Even though there is no direct support on the disc for iTunes or iPod, we have worked out a way for consumers to move content into these environments for some CDs, despite the challenges noted above. If you’d like more information on how to move content to iTunes please click to create a ticket.
And this is my particular favorite(in bold)....
Q: How can I copy the music at a higher bitrate?

A: Please note that in order to fit a second session with bonus features onto the CD we had to make a compromise on the encoding size for the music files.

The current bitrate of 128kbps has been deemed to be acceptable by the music industry. That being said, we realize that CD buyers have their own bitrate preferences and as such, we are currently working on a version of the software that will allow CD buyers to choose the bitrate of their choice..
These people sidestep questions better than Bush does..
Q: Is there a way to remove your software from my computer?


A: Please note that MediaMax was designed to manage and safeguard the copyrights of specified artists' CDs while giving you an enhanced visual and listening experience. It does not interfere with or impact any of the normal operations and/or functions of your computer.
These fucking music industry people make my wanna stop listening to music altogether.
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Re: Fucking Copy-Protected CD's

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Animalor wrote:These fucking music industry people make my wanna stop listening to music altogether.
They continue to punish legitimate purchasers and still wonder why downloading is on the rise. I download as well as buy but if I see any sort of copy protection mentioned on the label I wont buy it.

128kbps is NOT acceptable for something I am paying for!
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Post by Tenuvil »

Does holding the right shift key when inserting the CD skip the executable and allow the disk to be seen as an audio CD? I know I was able to rip a few different copy protected CDs in Audiograbber by doing that...
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Post by Animalor »

So easily defeatable it ain't even funny.

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jhalderm/cd3/

Enjoy.
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I boot into Fedora Core 4 and do not have this problem
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Post by Animalor »

Sunncom's software is worse than a virus. I inserted the CD at home earlier and before I had a prompt or even accepted their license agreement, their drivers was already installed and loaded on my computer.
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Post by Aslanna »

Sure it's defeatable. But that doesn't mean legitmate users should have to endure the hassle. That isn't the point.
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Post by Truant »

Anyone have any experience with copying these and/or the old "Enhanced CD"s that include quicktime videos and menus for use with pc playback?

Looking for some assistance!
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Post by Boogahz »

I remember getting through the enhanced CD's a while back, and I am thinking that I just used a different ripper...can't remember which one though...sorry, but it can be done!
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if people stop pirating music, the music industry will stop spending money on elaborate and crippling anti piracy techniques.

it's chicken/egg
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People will always find a way. They're just spending money on a losing cause and annoying legitimate purchasers.
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Post by Siji »

kyoukan wrote:if people stop pirating music, the music industry will stop spending money on elaborate and crippling anti piracy techniques.

it's chicken/egg
That was a joke, right?

How about if they actually put out something worth listening to, people would be more inclined to buy it?

Personally speaking, the RIAA will never get a penny from me ever again. I don't think I've purchased a music CD in 10 years and never will again. If they come up with a way to prevent people from copying music to MP3s? I'll be unable to care less.
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Post by Aslanna »

You probably now have Sony's rootkit installed. At least according to the EFF who labels that CD - Our Lady Peace, Healthy in Paranoid Times - as being protected that way.

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004144.php
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To the delight of many
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/1 ... index.html
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Stung by continuing criticism, the world's second-largest music label, Sony BMG Music Entertainment, promised Friday to temporarily suspend making music CDs with antipiracy technology that can leave computers vulnerable to hackers.

Sony defended its right to prevent customers from illegally copying music but said it will halt manufacturing CDs with the "XCP" technology as a precautionary measure. "We also intend to re-examine all aspects of our content protection initiative to be sure that it continues to meet our goals of security and ease of consumer use," the company said in a statement.

The antipiracy technology, which works only on Windows computers, prevents customers from making more than a few copies of the CD and prevents them from loading the CD's songs onto Apple Computer's popular iPod portable music players. Some other music players, which recognize Microsoft's proprietary music format, would work.

Sony's announcement came one day after leading security companies disclosed that hackers were distributing malicious programs over the Internet that exploited the antipiracy technology's ability to avoid detection. Hackers discovered they can effectively render their programs invisible by using names for computer files similar to ones cloaked by the Sony technology. (Full story)
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