So I started a gimp on Dark Iron when the PvP/PA thing started. For a change, I went Alliance, gnome mage to be specific. Apparently, Alliance players don't understand that cloth classes are bait for rogues and warriors. They constantly bitch that there are not enough mages and priests, yet the concept of forming a group to do quests is utterly alien to them. Given the roaming gank squads in every contested zone, the Horde have no such problem grouping.
The last straw was AB. I'm suprised these fuckstains bothered to form groups, much less use TS. Their leet strategy was zerging a node, then zerging another node. Definitely need voice chat for that Nobody bothered to defend anything, and against any kind of halfway coordinated opposition, the losses piled up.
Lastly, the rumors are all true. I couldn't ride the Deeprun Tram twice in a week without seeing NE fags cybering in the middle platforms.
In short Horde > Alliance.
"There is at least as much need to curb the cruel greed and arrogance of part of the world of capital, to curb the cruel greed and violence of part of the world of labor, as to check a cruel and unhealthy militarism in international relationships." -Theodore Roosevelt
Why did I go Alliance? Why god? Watching the horde operate in a battle ground or group is like watching a team of elite commando's, and as soon as both sides meet up most Alliance turn into 12 year old zergs who only want honour points for themselves.
a typical PvP Battle.
Warriors change into Battle Stance (or sometimes defensive). Rogues stealth up, usually the Horde rogue will jump before stealthing (they seem to do this a lot more than Alliance). A few buffs get tossed (mainly self shields and what have you)
-clash-
Horde Priest - SW:Pain, D:Plague then stay on healing the tanks & Scream when needed. Alliance Priest - SW:Pain, SMITE SMITE SMITE Scream, Melee!! OMG OOM!!!1eleven Rogues - Rape casters, anally, as often as possible. Shaman - Shock shock shock, melee. Very effective, oh, and look he healed a teammate...for no reason other than he was low on health. Horde Druid - Heal teammates Alliance Druid - MOONFIRE SPAMZZ, Healz omfg Fu! Mages - Sheep, AE, Die somewhat swiftly Horde Hunter - Attack people, mark the rogue Alliance hunter - Attack, run away if someone looks at you. Warlock - Generally the same type of people both sides play this class, if they could help you, they would, but busy killing everyone kthx. Paladin - Refuse to die, person isnt even at the keyboard, not healing, ever, except themselves. Fucking heal me so i can AE you dick! Warriors - me smash, really all they do.
It could be that the only purpose for your every existence, is to serve as a warning to others.
A fun tactic I like to use in AB is run close to an Alliance zerg train (preferably from the rear or the side as they have no peripheral vision) and spam SW:P on each of them until they realise they are being attacked. Then fire off Psychic Scream, down a swiftness pot and run as far away from every resource point with 8-10 alliance tards on my ass.
But honestly, there are a good lot of tards on horde who refuse to grasp the concept of defense and listening to whoever is 'in charge'. But the tard quotient is nowhere near as high as alliance.
I've got 99 problems and I'm not dealing with any of them - Lay-Z
This isn't exactly an Alliance tard function, but is another thing that pissed me off on the PvP server: Alliance and Horde guilds swapping 5 minute AB "wins."
Basically, they agree beforehand to just let the other team steamroll all the nodes, win, and then reverse the process. If you get put in a BG not with your little prearranged assfuck, just /afk out. Do that 20 or 30 times and night, and watch the ranks roll in. WTF is this bullshit? I cannot deny the effectiveness, but the lame factor is off the fucking scale.
"There is at least as much need to curb the cruel greed and arrogance of part of the world of capital, to curb the cruel greed and violence of part of the world of labor, as to check a cruel and unhealthy militarism in international relationships." -Theodore Roosevelt
You got that backwards. They are so prevalent it's either exploit or fall behind.
"There is at least as much need to curb the cruel greed and arrogance of part of the world of capital, to curb the cruel greed and violence of part of the world of labor, as to check a cruel and unhealthy militarism in international relationships." -Theodore Roosevelt
masteen wrote:This isn't exactly an Alliance tard function, but is another thing that pissed me off on the PvP server: Alliance and Horde guilds swapping 5 minute AB "wins."
Basically, they agree beforehand to just let the other team steamroll all the nodes, win, and then reverse the process. If you get put in a BG not with your little prearranged assfuck, just /afk out. Do that 20 or 30 times and night, and watch the ranks roll in. WTF is this bullshit? I cannot deny the effectiveness, but the lame factor is off the fucking scale.
It's also something that can get them suspended/banned, if you're so inclined to try and pin them for it.
The win trading is a huge problem because of the extreme imbalancing of the honor system it causes. I know on my server before AB there was a group of guilds that would afk out and trade wins in AV for weeks and anyone that made rank 12+ had to be in one of these groups. The people that made HW/GM were bringing in 800k honor a week which ruined anyone elses chance of actually progessing at all.
Also, when it was brought up to Blizzard their response was basically afk'ing is a function of the game and as such there is no problem with what these guilds are doing. I don't know if it is different in AB or WSG if one group stays in the game but just doesn't do anything but I have a feeling Blizzard wouldn't actually ban anyone over it. From what I have seen they are extremely lax over issues like this because they don't want to lose suscribers.
Breagen wrote:The win trading is a huge problem because of the extreme imbalancing of the honor system it causes. I know on my server before AB there was a group of guilds that would afk out and trade wins in AV for weeks and anyone that made rank 12+ had to be in one of these groups. The people that made HW/GM were bringing in 800k honor a week which ruined anyone elses chance of actually progessing at all.
Also, when it was brought up to Blizzard their response was basically afk'ing is a function of the game and as such there is no problem with what these guilds are doing. I don't know if it is different in AB or WSG if one group stays in the game but just doesn't do anything but I have a feeling Blizzard wouldn't actually ban anyone over it. From what I have seen they are extremely lax over issues like this because they don't want to lose suscribers.
on my server, Dragonblight, one man from the horde, and one from the alliance teamed up and made a 40 vs 40 AV. There was 1 rule, no winning. GMs deemed this an exploit, said we were allowing the farming of faction.. little do they know that its fucking hard to get AV up on our server. the AV was kept up 48 hours straight, then someone posted in general calling it an exploit and said "they were letting them kill each other" which was not true. The HK's in that AV were worked for, no one just laid down and died. Everyone in the AV of the 48 hour span got a warning, 2 creators got suspended. it was complete and utter bullshit, but hey, what you gonna do.
I was referring to people farming the ~10k bonus honor for winning the AV BG. Farming the other players for 48 hours would be terrible honor because of the diminishing returns as well as the time to just sit there and kill the other team over and over. Compare that to letting the other side steamroll through all your GY's until they are at your base and than AFK'ing out so they can get the 10k honor + faction bonus before the BG ends.
There was a famous quote on my server from one of these groups when they were in AV, 'Your turn or ours?' I think that sums up their actions fairly well...
Oh and I can see people being suspended for just sitting in the AV chain killing each other and not trying to win, however its a lot harder to prove that one side is intentionally losing if they just are not defending very well.
Nobody bothered to defend anything, and against any kind of halfway coordinated opposition, the losses piled up.
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