She's bad with words too huh?

[Pherr the Dorf]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20050 ... NlYwMxNzA0

"Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this, this is working very well for them," Mrs. Bush told American Public Media's "Marketplace" program, before returning to her multi-million dollar Houston home.

[Niffoni]

I got to hear the audio feed of that. The nervous chuckle makes it all the more stomach-churning.

[Fairweather Pure]

Now Mrs. Bush dosen't care about black people either? What is this world coming too?

[Aslanna]

Where's Kayne West when you need him? I hope he's not booked for any benefit shows in the near future.

[Pherr the Dorf]

Now Mrs. Bush dosen't care about black people either? What is this world coming too?

Who said anything about blacks?

[Dregor Thule]

Wow, that was one hell of a slanted piece of writing.

[Fairweather Pure]

Who said anything about blacks?

It was implied!

[Zaelath]

Wow, that was one hell of a slanted piece of writing.

But probably fair, unfortunately. I just hope they got her to a nice hot shower quickly enough to wash off the poor.

There's a reason why people don't understand why the poor vote for the imperials ...

[Dregor Thule]

Yeah, I'm sure she's about as in touch with the people of America as she is in touch with the people of Latvia, wasn't really the point. I'm a member of the left and even I thought that was some seriously biased "journalism".

[Marbus]

Biased? yea... true? most definitely...

Marb

[Zaelath]

Yeah, I'm sure she's about as in touch with the people of America as she is in touch with the people of Latvia, wasn't really the point. I'm a member of the left and even I thought that was some seriously biased "journalism".

Drawing an obvious conclusion isn't really spinning this story.

It would be far more biased if it read thusly:

Barbara Bush as part of a group in Houston today at the
Astrodome that included her husband and former
President Bill Clinton, who were chosen by her son,
the current president, to head fundraising efforts for
the recovery. Sen. Hilary Clinton and Sen. Barack
Obama were also present.

Mrs Bush expressed that the evacuees are enjoying
the Texas hospitality and are happy to stay there.
She said the rescue efforts are "working very well
for them".

[Sumdaor]

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp ... 1001054719

This news source has been linked by some of the more left in the VV community. Same story ~slightly~ less spin.

I assume she is referring to the underprivelged getting goverment aid and starting over in a new city. In some ways, its a good deal for the evacuees.

[Sumdaor]

There's a reason why people don't understand why the poor vote for the imperials ...

Actually most of the evacuees now camped out in houston and other places would have voted democrat. African American's in the south have a stauch party line to vote democrat. That has started to change some, but not by a large margin. I don't know if the republican party will ever be forgiven for its stance on civil rights in the 50's and 60's.

[Zaelath]

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp ... 1001054719

This news source has been linked by some of the more left in the VV community. Same story ~slightly~ less spin.

I assume she is referring to the underprivelged getting goverment aid and starting over in a new city. In some ways, its a good deal for the evacuees.

"slightly" less spin? I'm sorry, what is not entirely factual about the article you linked?

I'll grant you the first article is vitriolic w/ the references to Marie Antoinette, but it's not even really "spin"; there's interpretation but it doesn't change what she said and the implications are pretty obvious.

[Sumdaor]

That's laughable the first article is full politcal rheotric. Thats not even a arguable point.

With comments like "Finally, we have discovered the roots of George W. Bush's "compassionate conservatism."" and "Even when a hurricane hits, the apple does not fall far from the tree." Which goes beyond reporting this story and implying GW is to blame for the lack of response in ther aftermath of Katrina because he doesn't like poor people.

The conclusion of the article must be obvious only in your mind. I didn't draw the same thing out of the article other then the author needed to stop writing his articles right after watching the Daily Show. (Disclaimer I love the show, but I consider it as baised as this article)

[Dregor Thule]

I'll argue against that (the Daily Show point). Yes, it's definitely a Liberal-sided show, but they will make fun of everyone and anyone, be they on the left, the right, black, white, christian, jew or muslim; if you made the news, you're fair game. To compare it to this article is kind of insulting!

[Zaelath]

That's laughable the first article is full politcal rheotric. Thats not even a arguable point.

With comments like "Finally, we have discovered the roots of George W. Bush's "compassionate conservatism."" and "Even when a hurricane hits, the apple does not fall far from the tree." Which goes beyond reporting this story and implying GW is to blame for the lack of response in ther aftermath of Katrina because he doesn't like poor people.

The conclusion of the article must be obvious only in your mind. I didn't draw the same thing out of the article other then the author needed to stop writing his articles right after watching the Daily Show. (Disclaimer I love the show, but I consider it as baised as this article)

Then perhaps you need to look up the definition of "spin" and re-read what I wrote.

[Kylere]

Isn't this like assuming that if Hillary had given head and swallowed (Like Funks imaginary girlfriend) he would not have been a philanderer.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Wasn't what she said true? Yea.

Aren't you who have a problem with this, pulling a problem where there isn't one? Yea.

[Nick]

The woman is a deluded trash talking fucknut who not only looks like satan, sounds like satan but actually is married to one of his bloody minions.

Defend her some more whilst you suck on that big scaly black satan cock Midnyte, please.

[Kwonryu DragonFist]

"And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this, this is working very well for them."

LOLZ!

[Sumdaor]

Then perhaps you need to look up the definition of "spin" and re-read what I wrote.

I know what the defenition of spin is Zael. You have sat in this thread and defended this person's article, saying the conclusion they came to was correct so the entire article is a-ok with you. Really go suck on a pole, its nothing but a slanted bush hate piece. I said it, so did countless other's who lean towards the left on this thread.

"slightly" less spin? I'm sorry, what is not entirely factual about the article you linked?

Thats called sarcasm my dear labrador loving friend.

[Bubba Grizz]

I'd hit it.

[Boogahz]

The woman is a deluded trash talking fucknut who not only looks like satan, sounds like satan but actually is married to one of his bloody minions.

Defend her some more whilst you suck on that big scaly black satan cock Midnyte, please.

Just out of curiousity, do you realize which Mrs. Bush said this? It was Barbara Bush, mother of W. I never thought satan would look like a little silver hair lady.

[Nick]

Ok, Ill edit it just for you!

The woman is a deluded trash talking fucknut who not only looks like satan, sounds like satan, is actually married to one of his bloody minions and has produced this generations Damien.

Defend her some more whilst you suck on that big scaly black satan cock Midnyte, please.

[Boogahz]

Still not sure how she looks like satan, lol. She just looks like any little old lady. Then again, when they get behind the wheel....

[Nick]

[Aabidano]

I'd hit it.

That's not much of a qualifier...

[Zaelath]

Then perhaps you need to look up the definition of "spin" and re-read what I wrote.

I know what the defenition of spin is Zael. You have sat in this thread and defended this person's article, saying the conclusion they came to was correct so the entire article is a-ok with you. Really go suck on a pole, its nothing but a slanted bush hate piece. I said it, so did countless other's who lean towards the left on this thread.

How about you make one argument at a time instead of flapping around like a fucking retard. I never said the first article wasn't hating on Bush, I never said it wasn't biased, but it's not spin dipshit. That's it. Like I said, look it up.

The conclusion that the author came to from what Barbara said is obvious, you can stick your head in the sand all day, and it will still be a rich white bitch showing a complete and total lack of empathy for people below her station. People who are "lucky" to be sleeping in a cot in Houston because they were all homeless.

[kyoukan]

Yeah, I'm sure she's about as in touch with the people of America as she is in touch with the people of Latvia, wasn't really the point. I'm a member of the left and even I thought that was some seriously biased "journalism".

you know it was an opinion piece, right?

[Kylere]

I'd hit it.

That's not much of a qualifier...

Oh shit, I have to give you props, I almost spit my coffee out!

[Dregor Thule]

Yeah, I'm sure she's about as in touch with the people of America as she is in touch with the people of Latvia, wasn't really the point. I'm a member of the left and even I thought that was some seriously biased "journalism".

you know it was an opinion piece, right?

Nope, there's nothing there claiming it is, so I assume it's not without the disclaimer.

[Zaelath]

Yeah, I'm sure she's about as in touch with the people of America as she is in touch with the people of Latvia, wasn't really the point. I'm a member of the left and even I thought that was some seriously biased "journalism".

you know it was an opinion piece, right?

Nope, there's nothing there claiming it is, so I assume it's not without the disclaimer.

That's basically Yahoo's fault rather than The Nation's/the authors:

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=20080

Or is it not a given that Blogs are op-ed?

[Dregor Thule]

I didn't go the The Nation, I just read what was linked to me at Yahoo.

[kyoukan]

the links at the bottom are all to other opinion pieces. it even says MORE OPINION ARTICLES HERE right at the bottom.

yahoo should label it opinion at the top though.

[Sumdaor]

How about you make one argument at a time instead of flapping around like a fucking retard. I never said the first article wasn't hating on Bush, I never said it wasn't biased, but it's not spin dipshit. That's it. Like I said, look it up.

Man, your a piece of work. Your the one who used "biased" and "spin" interchangable in this thread not me. quote below for reference

Drawing an obvious conclusion isn't really spinning this story.

It would be far more biased if it read thusly:

If you want to argue the semantic of what of your word usage go right ahead. Trying to make this a word game is retarded. You made the statement, and it was fucking stupid, get over it go on the next thread.

People who are "lucky" to be sleeping in a cot in Houston because they were all homeless.

Was her wording wise? No, but the people in the astrodome that are in poverty will get goverment aid to start over. Thats "many of the people" at the astrodome who didn't lose a loved one or any real estate. The evacuee's are going to receive goverment aid to start over and build a new life. A fresh start in a new city for some of them. That is a good thing.

The conclusion that the author came to from what Barbara said is obvious, you can stick your head in the sand all day, and it will still be a rich white bitch showing a complete and total lack of empathy for people below her station.

Crazy I didn't come up with the same conclusion as you about this article, and from the responses on this thread neither did most of the other readers. So who is the one with his head in the sand????

[Nick]

Barbara Bush saying that is frankly completely and utterly unacceptable, under the circumstances. Ivory fucking towers.

You don't even need any goddamn spin to point that out.

[Sumdaor]

What she said wasn't worded well I never said it was.

[Wulfran]

OK seriously, what difference does it make what Barbara Bush says? Her husband isn't sitting in the Whitehouse, her son is. A son that can't be re-elected, even if people wanted to hold him in any way accountable for words out of his mother's mouth. And does anyone seriously believe comments like this would even hurt Jeb's electabilty if he decides to run in the future?

I'm not a fan of G.W. Bush, but what some insensitive, old hag says really affects nothing, even if she is his mother.

[Winnow]

The older Bush's are getting old. George DoB: 1924, Barbara DoB: 1925. A little allowance for senility is in order here. Although at 80+, they really should cut back on the interviews.

[Fairweather Pure]

OK seriously, what difference does it make what Barbara Bush says? Her husband isn't sitting in the Whitehouse, her son is. A son that can't be re-elected, even if people wanted to hold him in any way accountable for words out of his mother's mouth. And does anyone seriously believe comments like this would even hurt Jeb's electabilty if he decides to run in the future?

I'm not a fan of G.W. Bush, but what some insensitive, old hag says really affects nothing, even if she is his mother.

You are downplaying the seriousness and impact of her statement. First of all, she's not just some "old hag". She's a former First Lady of the United States of America. Secondly, she is the mother of the current President of the United States of America. Family values anyone? The nut certianly dosen't fall far from the tree!

The reason people are talking about it is because, yes, it is important. Her words can/do still have an impact.

[Wulfran]

OK seriously, what difference does it make what Barbara Bush says? Her husband isn't sitting in the Whitehouse, her son is. A son that can't be re-elected, even if people wanted to hold him in any way accountable for words out of his mother's mouth. And does anyone seriously believe comments like this would even hurt Jeb's electabilty if he decides to run in the future?

I'm not a fan of G.W. Bush, but what some insensitive, old hag says really affects nothing, even if she is his mother.

You are downplaying the seriousness and impact of her statement. First of all, she's not just some "old hag". She's a former First Lady of the United States of America. Secondly, she is the mother of the current President of the United States of America. Family values anyone? The nut certianly dosen't fall far from the tree!

The reason people are talking about it is because, yes, it is important. Her words can/do still have an impact.

She doesn't set policy. Any family values are already instilled in Georgie Jr. and aren't changing. Realistically she's an old, rich, white person insensitive in large part to the catastrophe that befell a lot of people. She's entitled to her opinion, but how does that make newsworthy or important?

[Niffoni]

I won't downplay the monumental idiocy of the statement, but I will agree that people are giving her way too much credit as a signifigant public figure. Relax. People say dumb shit on television all the time. That's usually why we watch it in the first place.

[Dregor Thule]

I think the worry is this. Even tho she's not an elected official by any means, she still is part of the team. Both her and Bush Sr. will voice "opinions" that have been defined by GWBs team to help with the overall gameplan. So, despite the fact she wasn't reciting a speech, she may have been given some points to bring up should questions arise. Was this one way they were trying to downplay the situation?

[Zaelath]

How about you make one argument at a time instead of flapping around like a fucking retard. I never said the first article wasn't hating on Bush, I never said it wasn't biased, but it's not spin dipshit. That's it. Like I said, look it up.

Man, your a piece of work. Your the one who used "biased" and "spin" interchangable in this thread not me. quote below for reference

They're not interchangeable, which is why I had to ask you TWICE to read what I said, jackass.

If you want to argue the semantic of what of your word usage go right ahead. Trying to make this a word game is retarded. You made the statement, and it was fucking stupid, get over it go on the next thread.

I never said any such thing (whatever "the statement" that was "retarded" was) you rabid fucktard, I said he didn't spin the story, and he didn't. He did heap a fuckton of bitter vetching on top of it to show his contempt for such an obvious bitch, but most of us that aren't sucking on Bush family cock at any attempt to show them in less than ideal light would have come to the same conclusion to both articles, hence;

Crazy I didn't come up with the same conclusion as you about this article, and from the responses on this thread neither did most of the other readers. So who is the one with his head in the sand????

I wasn't talking about the conclusion on the article, who gives a shit about that, the important part is the conclusion people came to on what Barbara said, and all of a sudden you're probably alone in your corner rubbing yourself in crisco and saying she was misquoted.

[Sumdaor]

How about you make one argument at a time instead of flapping around like a fucking retard. I never said the first article wasn't hating on Bush, I never said it wasn't biased, but it's not spin dipshit. That's it. Like I said, look it up.


Man, your a piece of work. Your the one who used "biased" and "spin" interchangable in this thread not me. quote below for reference


They're not interchangeable, which is why I had to ask you TWICE to read what I said, jackass.

You know you used the word "spinning" to describe the first article right? You are in fact the first one to use the word in this thread? Now your arguing the correct symanetics of verbage you introduced to this thread.

I never said any such thing (whatever "the statement" that was "retarded" was) you rabid fucktard, I said he didn't spin the story, and he didn't. He did heap a fuckton of bitter vetching on top of it to show his contempt for such an obvious bitch, but most of us that aren't sucking on Bush family cock at any attempt to show them in less than ideal light would have come to the same conclusion to both articles, hence;

What she said was a horrible choice of words. However, my opinion of the former first lady differs from yours as does my opinion of her intentions in her statement concering the evacuees. What was yours opininon of the first lady? quoted below

rich white bitch showing a complete and total lack of empathy for people below her station.

Thats what I don't agree with. She has a history of social work targeted at the poor, spefically dealing with literacy. She has done more for the poor then you or the author of that retarded piece of literature will ever do combined. I refuse to believe she had no concern for the evacuee's.

but most of us that aren't sucking on Bush family cock at any attempt to show them in less than ideal light would have come to the same conclusion to both articles, hence;

Its not that, I make statements that would considered anti-bush in other threads. Its simple, I don't share your blinding hatred for all things bush.

[Zaelath]

They're not interchangeable, which is why I had to ask you TWICE to read what I said, jackass.

You know you used the word "spinning" to describe the first article right? You are in fact the first one to use the word in this thread? Now your arguing the correct symanetics of verbage you introduced to this thread.

Again you fail at comprehension, I used "spin" to describe what the article was not.

What I object to is you abusing me for your failure to comprehend english, idiot. I can bring any word I like into a discussion, it's your problem if you don't understand the word or the post in general.

Your apparent issue is that because I said the article wasn't spinning what Barbara said, you believe I said the article was not biased. Two different concepts, hence my suggestion that you consult a dictionary and revisit my post better armed to understand it. That you repeatedly failed to do so, is again, your problem.

I'll let you have the last, rambling, pointless word. Have a nice weekend.

[Sumdaor]

Again you fail at comprehension, I used "spin" to describe what the article was not.

What I object to is you abusing me for your failure to comprehend english, idiot. I can bring any word I like into a discussion, it's your problem if you don't understand the word or the post in general.

Your apparent issue is that because I said the article wasn't spinning what Barbara said, you believe I said the article was not biased. Two different concepts, hence my suggestion that you consult a dictionary and revisit my post better armed to understand it. That you repeatedly failed to do so, is again, your problem.

I'll let you have the last, rambling, pointless word. Have a nice weekend.

Still at it about the word game. Your telling me your word usage was intentional. It would be like me saying "That article was not green.' Pointing out the obvious. Your right about me not understanding your post. How could I with idiotic statements splattered about at random in bewteen the points of your post.

P.S. I didn't spin this post.

[miir]

Accoring to Laura Bush, the gulf coast was ravaged by Hurricane Corinna... I guess the Bush family stupidity is rubbing off on her.