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NBA lockout averted

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2091539
The sides reached agreement on several key issues that had held up a settlement since serious talks began in late February. Among them were a one-year increase in the minimum age for draft eligibility, a reduction in the maximum length of long-term contracts from seven years to six, and reductions in the size of annual salary increases in those long-term contracts from a maximum of 12½ percent to 10½ percent.

Veterans will now be subject to four annual random drug tests for performance-enhancing and recreational drugs, an increase from current rules calling one test at the start of training camp. Penalties for steroid violators were raised from five to 10 games for a first offense, 25 games for a second offense, one year for a third offense and a lifetime ban for a fourth.

Players with less than two years in the league will be eligible to be assigned to the minor league NBDL, where the minimum age will be reduced from 20 to 18.
Fascinating. Those greedy, self-centered NBA children were able to easily cruise to a labor agreement, unlike those blue collar, hard-working NHL players. I wonder why...

Decreasing contract lengths is a great thing, which should give teams more flexibility in managing their rosters and improve the quality of the game generally.

I don't know how the 19 year age limit will work out. There are kids who are talented enough to play in the NBA but are academically incapable of going to college. As long as those players aren't thrown under the bus (they can play in Europe or a developmental league or something and get drafted after a year), then I don't mind an age limit.
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I don't think the 19 year old limit applies to the NBDL.

P.S. Hopefully, the 19 year old limit will give them motivation to get good grades and thus mature and more responsible. There are many kids out their who are not ready for the NBA but declare anyway. If they slack off in high school because the NBA is/was supposedly a given, and then come to the NBA and do not act professionally, then the deserve to be out on there asses. ala Lenny Cook and many others. Hopefully, the limit will make more young men like Cook realize there NBA dreams in the long run because they have to go to college and develop physically and mentally..
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You're right about encouraging kids to achieve, but there are some people who really just aren't able to perform academically. It doesn't mean they're bad people and shouldn't be able to play basketball. If going to the NBDL turns into a reasonable option for them, great.
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19 won't hurt the dumb kids. They can still go to a prep academy for a year. There is also the option of just flunking their senior year and repeating it for another year of experience until they turn 19.

I'm impressed as well that the NBA got this done. The collective NHL look like asshats.
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I'm impressed as well that the NBA got this done. The collective NHL look like asshats.
Word. Basketball hasn't impressed me very much, lately. This is definitely a good step for the NBA.
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I think it wouldn't have been nearly this easy had the NHL not gone to shit. The NHL is basically fucked for many years to come. Their players are going to be fucking serving burgers now, assuming that they spend their money like Mike Tyson.

Seeing this no doubt spurred both sides to get things done.
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I'm not only in favor of the age limit; I'd like to see it at 20 or 21 instead of 19. For sure there are drawbacks if you're athletically gifted, but academically challenged. However, I think that disadvantages are far outweighed by the advantages.

Colleges currently have to draft and plan for their rosters as though players will only be playing with them for a single year. Nearly gone are the days where a student-athlete goes through a college coaches system for 3-4 years. Instead the vast majority of them are opting for the draft and the almighty bling. An age limit for the NBA draft allows colleges and student-athletes to focus on their educations and skill/basketball development without worrying that they’re missing out on something. It’s not like the NBA has a minor league. It’s not like if you’re a good basketball player, college won’t be paid for. It’s not like college is that hard.

For sure there are exceptions. LeBron and KG are the two that most immediately come to mind, but… I don’t know that college would have hurt either of them (maybe KG since he was basically supporting his family from what I understand). LeBron still would have been the number one draft pick even out of college and maybe KG goes higher than fifth. As good as they are, they might have been even better prepared to play in the NBA.

Just my opinion, but I’m all for the age limit. I think it helps the college fan, and I think it helps the players.
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I think a college degree should be needed to get into any professional sport. There will always be the argument about them getting hurt in college, but at least they would have a degree to fall back on.
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cid wrote:I think a college degree should be needed to get into any professional sport. There will always be the argument about them getting hurt in college, but at least they would have a degree to fall back on.
I disagree. Bill Gates doesn't have a degree (I think he dropped out of Harvard). You don't need a degree to be successful.

Degrees are overrated. I hate how the business world relies on that piece of paper so much.
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A lot of young players support their families. That's the impetus for many of them to leave college early or skip it altogether.

You're right that players leaving early is damaging the college game. I just don't view this as important. People are leaving early because they're good enough to play in a better league where they'll actually get paid? Good for them. If it hurts college basketball, fine. It's not like basketball has shit to do with the mission of a college anyway.

Additionally, college may be easy for some of us, but certainly not for all. Our classes in calculus and organic chemistry and so on (all the difficult entry-level math/science courses) have something like a 50% fail rate. People who do not have at least some natural academic ability simply do not get through.

If we want the whole of the NBA to have degrees in Communications and Criminology and Family Studies, fine. But don't delude yourself into thinking that forcing athletes to get a degree is going to result in people exploring the wonders of biochemistry or computer science or architecture. It won't happen. Their education will be a sham, just like it's a sham now.
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Just for clarification (and I think your last paragraph was directed at Cid), I was looking at it purely from a College/NBA basketball perspective, since the motivation of the rule is clearly nothing more than to make the NBA better.
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