IMAX film hints at evolution....

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IMAX film hints at evolution....

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.....and several states refuse to show the film.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/ ... index.html

The film, "Volcanoes of the Deep Sea," makes a connection between human DNA and microbes inside undersea volcanoes.
IMAX theaters in Texas, Georgia and the Carolinas have declined to show the film
This just boggles my mind. First Creationism gets forced on students as a "science". And now several southern cities/states are refusing to show an IMAX film that mentions evolution.

Imagine if a theatre refused to show The Passion of Christ. The outrage would be immediate.
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Oh noes!! INFORMATION!!!1!

*buries head in the dirt* HAHA! If I don't see it, it's not real!!
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The people that made that film are suffering from something that intelligent design folk suffer from all the time. Interpret the data in a non mainstream way and you get met with closed minds that wish to dismiss the idea.

Funny that the role is reversed in this case.
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Adex_Xeda wrote:The people that made that film are suffering from something that intelligent design folk suffer from all the time. Interpret the data in a non mainstream way and you get met with closed minds that wish to dismiss the idea.

Funny that the role is reversed in this case.
Problem is they have science, facts, and actual physical evidence for their ideas......religion has no science, no facts, and no physical evidence for anything they say...you just have to have faith. LOL
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But but but Midnyte, the Bible takes place in real places...just like Ghostbusters.
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Adex_Xeda wrote:The people that made that film are suffering from something that intelligent design folk suffer from all the time. Interpret the data in a non mainstream way and you get met with closed minds that wish to dismiss the idea.

Funny that the role is reversed in this case.
I need a good laugh Adex, please tell me how "Intelligent Design" can be proven through the Scientific Method.
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Adex_Xeda wrote:The people that made that film are suffering from something that intelligent design folk suffer from all the time. Interpret the data in a non mainstream way and you get met with closed minds that wish to dismiss the idea.

Funny that the role is reversed in this case.
Problem is they have science, facts, and actual physical evidence for their ideas......religion has no science, no facts, and no physical evidence for anything they say...you just have to have faith. LOL

Damn, i have to agree with Midnyte again. Hope its not becoming a habit.
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Hesten wrote: Damn, i have to agree with Midnyte again. Hope its not becoming a habit.
Same here but I'm embarrased to admit it... shhhhhh :lol:
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Midnyte/Clinton, 2008!
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Weren't reactions to the Harvard president daring to just put forth the idea that there are intrinsic differences between men and women that affect how good they are at math and science more close-minded than this decision was?

I certainly think IMAX should be able to show the film, and they clearly are able to. The fact is that many people in the areas of the IMAX's that chose not to show the film disagree with evolution, so they wouldn't really want to see a film that's based on it. The IMAXs look to have made this decision mostly based on economics, not principle. The outcry regarding the Harvard president's remarks were about principle, not economics, and therefore I think a lot worse.
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Truth is, as I have said before, the Bible dosen't contratict the Theory of evolution if you have a brain. If God is all powerful and outside of time then our ideas of time are something we are imposing on Him to help our understanding and make us seem a little more important in the grand scheme of things...

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Yeah Marb, I think people should be open-minded about evolution and other things, but not everyone is like that.

Plus just because someone doesn't want to go to IMAX to see a film about something they disagree with doesn't mean they don't want to hear the other side. I like knowing opposing points of view, but I wasn't about to go see F/911 in theatres. I'm not saying a film about evolution equates to F/911 in my opinion (I certainly don't think that), just saying there's a big difference between wanting to know other's opinions and wanting to actually go see and pay for a movie about it. I did rent F/911 though.
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I think the point is though that they didn't give people the option to see it. It could be based upon economic but more likely it's based upon a few very vocal people's protest and/or uproar.

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Yeah I see what you mean Marb. If influence from religious/political groups was the cause, not economics, I think this decision is completely wrong.
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well the sad thing is, these religious activist groups are such bullies with their political actions that a lot of businesses just simply would rather not deal with rubbing them the wrong way.

these people are scared to have honest discussion in the marketplace of ideas, so they attack free expression of facts.

what does the bible say about grand unification, superstring, or quantum gravity?

what doth the Lord decree?
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Don't add your personal baggage onto my words.


I'm simply stating that facts are out there, and mulitple ways to interpret those facts. If some guy found a novel way to suggest human development from volcanic origins, he should be allowed to share his idea without a lot of resistance by the public.
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It's been a couple years since I did any detailed reading about the lifecycles of undersea volcanic microbes, but I think I know exactly what the fundies' panties are in a bunch about.

It's not uncommon for some of those microbes to absorb another microbe, but instead of just digesting it, they will leave it intact and have it function akin to the way our mitochondria do in our cells. This forms a clear link from all multi-cellular animals back to the unvariagated unicellular ones, and lends yet more credence to evolution.

How long before "evolution" becomes a dirty word? Ignorance is not a pretty thing, and America is getting dumber every fucking day.
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People that are religious are ok as long as they understand it's just a security blanket or therapy to control their inability to grasp reality or fear of the unknown.

It's the fucking kooks that don't understand this important point that are the problem.
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Post by Midnyte_Ragebringer »

Winnow wrote:People that are religious are ok as long as they understand it's just a security blanket or therapy to control their inability to grasp reality or fear of the unknown.

It's the fucking kooks that don't understand this important point that are the problem.
Nah.

If people understood that point they wouldn't be religious anymore. That's how we got where we are. Once you've seen the light, you can't go back. I don't know if you can really sum them up so easily. I mean some of them just really believe and want to hold unto that and don't feel it's right that so many are putting out things that disprove it. Then there are those in power positions who can't afford to lose donaters to their pockets. And I'm sure there are many more reasons.

But, they can be ignored just like any other harmless faction of zealots. Speak up and fight it and they will show it. If they don't and you really need to see it, drive to where you can. Move out of that area if the philosophy of that area no longer reflects your beliefs.
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