democracy

nobody · Post by **nobody** » January 13, 2005, 3:20 am

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600102484,00.html

"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There was never a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."

just thought it was interesting

Nick · Post by **Nick** » January 13, 2005, 12:12 pm

Ok off topic but whoever wrote your sig forgot that they had not existed in the timeframe before their birth, so their assertion of "so far so good" is factually innacurate.

Sorry.

nobody · Post by **nobody** » January 13, 2005, 1:09 pm

touche. however i believe energy cannot be created nor destroyed and that includes life. life was not created by God per say but rather organized by God and i, as well as every other living thing have always existed and always will. just in different states and forms.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 13, 2005, 1:31 pm

nobody wrote:http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600102484,00.html

"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There was never a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."
just thought it was interesting

That's a lame quote as no form of government has ever lasted and you have the United States with ~225+ years and counting.

Here's a quote from me:

Remember, no universe has ever lasted forever. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There was never a universe yet that did not commit suicide.

I guess you can't count our present universe because that would be like including the United States as a continuing democracy in the original quote above.

nobody · Post by **nobody** » January 13, 2005, 2:06 pm

you totally missed the bus on this one. the quote did not say "forever" but "long". and the point of the article was that the United Sates is NOT a democracy but a Republic. or at least is supposed to function like one.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 13, 2005, 2:52 pm

nobody wrote:you totally missed the bus on this one. the quote did not say "forever" but "long". and the point of the article was that the United Sates is NOT a democracy but a Republic. or at least is supposed to function like one.

What's defined as "long"? Anything over 200 years historically is pretty damned good IMO. (not counting the ancient world)

If you want to get technical, the US is a republic but you're being gay about it. The democratic process is in place. It makes the quote even lamer as who cares if you're not referring to an existing government?

When was the last time there was a "true" democracy? Greece circa 5 billion B.C.?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 13, 2005, 3:26 pm

Winnow wrote:
If you want to get technical, the US is a republic but you're being gay about it.

OMG! YOU HOMOPHOBE!!!!

nobody · Post by **nobody** » January 13, 2005, 4:23 pm

the average life span of a democracy is supposedly 200 years if you want to use that to define long i guess.

i'm not being gay about it and i'm not trying to support the opinion but merely pointing out the difference between the governments responsibility of providing our rights vs protecting our rights.

Greece circa 5 billion B.C.?

cmon, we all know God created the earth and it is no older than 7 thousand years old max.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 13, 2005, 4:27 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Winnow wrote:
If you want to get technical, the US is a republic but you're being gay about it.
OMG! YOU HOMOPHOBE!!!!

If any gays have an issue with that they can bitch slap me!

PS, I have no issue with gays so lets not get started down that path! I do however have an issue with martian niggers.
-Reference: Preacher #1

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 13, 2005, 4:33 pm

Winnow wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Winnow wrote:
If you want to get technical, the US is a republic but you're being gay about it.
OMG! YOU HOMOPHOBE!!!!
If any gays have an issue with that they can bitch slap me!

PS, I have no issue with gays so lets not get started down that path! I do however have an issue with martian niggers.
-Reference: Preacher #1

ROFL I love you Winnow. (Not in a gay way though. The thought you may think that SCARES me so bad)

Ebumar · Post by **Ebumar** » January 13, 2005, 4:45 pm

lmao winn...

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » January 13, 2005, 8:55 pm

Happened across this article today that actually goes over some similar thoughts.

http://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/ ... cracy.html

nobody · Post by **nobody** » January 13, 2005, 9:04 pm

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » January 14, 2005, 12:21 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
(Not in a gay way though.)

Not like that's a bad thing though

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