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http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/i_robot/

Theres also a featurette if you look on apple trailers. Basically, film based on a series of short stories. Looks to be very good, visually and for the action. I just hope that the acting & dialogue dont let us down (I noted Mr Smiths "Oh hell no" line in there :P )

Anyone read the stories and like to expand a bit on the plot maybe?
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This is based on the early Asimov positronic robot stories and the 3 laws...There is no plot to I, Robot as such...though towards the end of his life Asimov began moving the Robot stories/novels towards merger with his Foundation series...

I, Robot itself is non-plot...So I would imagine someone is going to write a weak plotline and try to connect dots that no one short of Asimov could...

So plot summary:

In the Early 21st Century, Hollywood was running short of writers capable of original thought...
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yeah there is no way you could give a synopsis of the stories and how they relate to the movie. the only similarty really is asimov's 3 laws of robotics. the actual laws even conflict in the movie preview when chi mcbride asks the question "well what if someone commands it to kill?!" like it is this nefarious ethical question when actually the second law pretty much takes care of this.

the 3 laws of robotics are a circle of ethics that cannot be broken. in asimov's books not only are they programmed into every robot, but a robot cannot possibly be built without it because it is based around how they function logically.

of course, the stories were mostly written in the 50s and 60s when the very idea of self aware machines wasn't even thinkable to someone like asimov who wrote that kind of reality based science fiction.
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Its been a long while since I have read them but only thing I can think of off hand as far as a connecting link (other than his laws of robotics) is that several of the stories featured a woman that was an expert in robot behavior (Susan somebody maybe? can't remember). You could possibly try to string those together although you would still be lacking an overall story arc.
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kyoukan wrote: the 3 laws of robotics are a circle of ethics that cannot be broken. in asimov's books not only are they programmed into every robot, but a robot cannot possibly be built without it because it is based around how they function logically.
I remember at least one case in which the complete set of laws wasn't incorporated. Instead of "A robot can do no harm to a human or through inaction allow a human to come to harm" it had a shortened version of "A robot can do no harm to a human".
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Arborealus wrote:This is based on the early Asimov positronic robot stories and the 3 laws...There is no plot to I, Robot as such...though towards the end of his life Asimov began moving the Robot stories/novels towards merger with his Foundation series...

I, Robot itself is non-plot...So I would imagine someone is going to write a weak plotline and try to connect dots that no one short of Asimov could...

So plot summary:

In the Early 21st Century, Hollywood was running short of writers capable of original thought...
i was pretty disappointed in the Foundation book where they did link it to the robot series.

in fact it was downright stupid. that book was hard to track down too cause it was out of print. so i had high expectations. now i know why it was out of print. "Foundation and Earth" i believe is the title?
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Wasn't bad for an action movie. I'd give it an 8.
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Weren't the ones with the modified 3rd law designed to run soceity for us? Programming them to preserve individual lives would have prevented them from functioning as government, as choices have to be made to bring the most good to the most people.

As I remember it, there were 4 Uberbots, one for EurAsia, one for Asia/Pacific region, one for Africa, and one for the Americas.
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masteen wrote:Weren't the ones with the modified 3rd law designed to run soceity for us? Programming them to preserve individual lives would have prevented them from functioning as government, as choices have to be made to bring the most good to the most people.

As I remember it, there were 4 Uberbots, one for EurAsia, one for Asia/Pacific region, one for Africa, and one for the Americas.
The movie doesn't go that route.

The also don't have a modified 3rd law. They obey the three basic laws, but with the abilty to have that overrided

(I don't think that's a spoiler.)

Could things bugged me though:

What happened to the cat?

In the year 2035 Chicago is filled with a lot of white people. Other than Wil Smith and his grandma (I think) and the police captain I saw very few non-caucasians.
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Aslanna wrote:In the year 2035 Chicago is filled with a lot of white people. Other than Wil Smith and his grandma (I think) and the police captain I saw very few non-caucasians.
Dont forget the asthma(sp) woman. :)

Overall, not bad. 7.5/10 imo.
I think Smith actually liked this one too.
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I enjoyed it. Definitly a good movie to see in the theatre if it is a matinee.

8/10 in my book.
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I, Robot = AniMatrix episode 1 and 2?

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In the animatrix shorts, the first two deals with the revolution of the robots and the rise of 01, the machine nation. In these, a robot murders his owner in an act of self preservation, and is then destroyed. Riots ensue (lead by the global military structure) in which robot-kind is erradicated by slavering hordes of racist bigots, even though some try to resist. The survivors band together and go form a place called 01 in the middle east somewhere.

In I, Robot, a robot is accused of murdering his creator, and riots eventually ensue in which the robots try to protect human kind using faulty logic. After the riots are quelled, the surviving NS-5's are herded up by the military and stored away in packing boxes, but then they disobey those orders to go and follow Sonny - to what purpose, we don't know, because the movie shuts off then.

Is this a far fetched coincidence? Possibly. However, the Washoski(sp) Brothers (or brother/sister now) did mention at the end of the third movie that elements of the matrix would be popping up from time to time and that the story wasn't over for good.. just for them in the movies. Is it possible to generate a coreliation between the Animatrix and I, Robot? Also worth noting is that Will Smith was pegged to be the actor to do Neo at the begining of the movies, but he passed on the part.

Odd, no?
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archeiron wrote:NT
I can't tell if this is a positive or negative review.
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Sounds like a conspiracy!
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I'm sorry but I can't see it personally. The connection between the Matrix and I Robot that is. By the Matrix people saying that their concept will live on in other movies I think they totally discount any other movie that had a robot in it. Hell, the Terminator had the concept before the Matrix but you don't see them taking any credit for the Matrix.

No, I feel the movies are mutually exclusive outside of them both having robots in them. The end of I Robot
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where the robots all turn to see Sonny standing on the hill didn't go long enough to suggest they are going anywhere other than just turning to look. I didn't get the feeling that Sonny was going to lead them off into the promised land or anything like that either.
Just my take on things.
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I did when they all began ignoring the direct orders to go go into their storage boxes and sorta swarmed on him like Moses and the Israelites.

That was my take, anyways.
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Post by Siji »

Saw this the other day. Decent movie with some really excellent (although not really exciting for the most part) special effects. I can definitely see more movies in this story line being done. Of course, I also have yet to see a Will Smith movie I didn't like.. even WWW.
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Siji wrote:Of course, I also have yet to see a Will Smith movie I didn't like.. even WWW.
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did dude did a geat review of the film, i havnt seen it yet but the poster cracked me up


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Aslanna wrote:Now you've gone too far!
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I liked it. Wasn't as great as it could have been but it was certainly better than I thought it would be. Smith plays a good character, the futuristic sci-fi gadgetry was cool, cept that his car was an Audi :P
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Will Smith did a fine acting job considering it was pretty much completely done with blue screens. The CGI in this movie was done so well that I forgot about it and focused on the story.

I personally don't picture the future anything even remotely like this when it comes to the type of intelligent robots we'll have but that also didn't spoil the movie for me.

I'm glad the robots had red lights in their chests when they were in baddie mode otherwise I would have been confused!

-excellent CGI
-good acting job by Will Smith
-not great acting by anyone else

82/100 Action/SciFi Specific
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