The NCAA Polls are Horseshit

Post by **Sylvus** » October 11, 2004, 11:46 am

Last Week:
<table border='1'><tr><td>School</td><td>ESPN/USA Today</td><td>AP</td></tr><tr><td>Minnesota</td><td>13</td><td>13</td></tr><tr><td>Michigan</td><td>14</td><td>14</td></tr><tr><td>Wisconsin</td><td>16</td><td>15</td></tr><tr><td>Ohio State</td><td>15</td><td>18</td></tr></table>

Michigan beats Minnesota
Wisconsin beats Ohio State

<table border='1'><tr><td>School</td><td>ESPN/USA Today</td><td>AP</td></tr><tr><td>Minnesota</td><td>20</td><td>19</td></tr><tr><td>Michigan</td><td>13</td><td>14</td></tr><tr><td>Wisconsin</td><td>12</td><td>10</td></tr><tr><td>Ohio State</td><td>23</td><td>25</td></tr></table>

I won't even bring up Purdue jumping 5 spots to #5 after beating the laughingstock that is Penn State. Oops, maybe I just did!

Discuss.

Ps my pussy is bleeding Blue and Yellow

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » October 11, 2004, 12:37 pm

Your gripe is that you feel Michigan should be ranked ahead of Wisconsin?

I disagree. Wisconsin is 6-0. Michigan is 5-1. Michigan has lost to a not-very-good Notre Dame team. Wisconsin hasn't lost to anyone.

Now, I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you if you made an argument that Michigan is the better team. But I don't see jumping a 6-0 Big Ten team over a 5-1 Big Ten team to be a travesty, no.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » October 11, 2004, 12:46 pm

Don't start crying about the polls until you beat Wisconsin.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 11, 2004, 12:54 pm

Arizona State should be higher than 19.

beat then ranked #17 Northwestern @ Northwestern.
-Northwestern went on to beat #6 Ohio State
beat Iowa 44-7 (Iowa had 4th ranked defense in the nation)
beat Oregon State
beat Oregon @ Oregon

5-0 Arizona State goes up against #1 USC this week...maybe that will take ASU from #19 to #18!

So lame.

XunilTlatoani · Post by **XunilTlatoani** » October 11, 2004, 1:04 pm

Too bad Michigan doesn't play Wisconsin this year. Both teams have two tough games remaining (I count Ohio State as tough for Michigan, because it's almost always a tough game even if Ohio State is in a down year) starting with Purdue. Wisconsin faces them this week, and Michigan the next. In two weeks, the Big Ten picture should be a lot clearer.

Post by **Sylvus** » October 11, 2004, 1:11 pm

I'm going to cry about the polls because we don't get to play Wisconsin this year. Nor do we get to play Penn State, I'd like to beat them and jump a few spots, since apparently beating the team with the number 1 run offense in the nation means nothing.

I maintain that the polls are horseshit. If Wisconsin should have been ranked higher than us after we lost to Notre Dame, so be it. As it stands, in both polls, a team that was "worse" than us beat a team that was "worse" than them and jumped us, after we beat a team that was "better" than both of us. There is a flaw in that logic!

I also find it funny that Miami got a #1 vote in the coaches poll, I wonder who submitted that one?

West Virginia lost last week to fall to #18 in the coaches poll, then had a bye week this week and moved up 2 spots, while Arizona State is still ranked behind them. At least the AP has that one right.

It's horseshit, I say!

masteen · Post by **masteen** » October 11, 2004, 1:26 pm

The polls are horseshit, no question. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that the BCS will be fucked up again this year as well. My name is Capt. Obvious.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 11, 2004, 1:52 pm

Sylvus wrote:
West Virginia lost last week to fall to #18 in the coaches poll, then had a bye week this week and moved up 2 spots, while Arizona State is still ranked behind them. At least the AP has that one right.

It's horseshit, I say!

ASU #15 in the AP is a little better although it should be #14 with Michigan at #15 : )

I'm impressed that Cal didn't drop much after losing to USC. It was a close game and they deserve to remain ranked in the top 10. USC should remain a top 5 team after losing to ASU by 3 this coming Saturday. There should be 3 Pac Ten teams in the top 10 after this week. If not, there's a conspiracy!

Go Devils! I think we have the better Quarterback actually in Walters. USC RB Reggie Bush is going to be hard to stop though.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » October 11, 2004, 2:02 pm

Badger Badger Badger...

xZiBiT · Post by **xZiBiT** » October 11, 2004, 2:10 pm

Yes, they are bullshit.

I can't wait to watch Purdue and Minnesota demolish the Badgers.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » October 11, 2004, 3:49 pm

yep polls are garbage.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » October 11, 2004, 5:07 pm

xZiBiT wrote:Yes, they are bullshit.

I can't wait to watch Purdue and Minnesota demolish the Badgers.

MUSHROOM MUSHROOM!!!

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » October 11, 2004, 6:20 pm

Uh sorry to break it to you Mr Im mad my team has lost a game, and want to be ranked higher than thoese who havent lost.

But the only thing sad about Penn State is their fucking offense, like ranked 90th or somecrap. Their Defense is one of the best in the country. Only 15 points a game scored aginist PSU. Not to mention 5.6 points a game are from Turnovers or special teams. So knock it down to 10 points a game our Defense gives up.

To hold 2 teams that in the top 5 of points per game, to only 16 points, and 20 points is good D.

36 points a game for #20 Minn. How many aginist PSU? only 16, how many aginist the big Whine and Blue? 24

42 points a game for #5 Prudue. How many aginist PSU? Only 20

#12 Wisc. scored all of 16. They have the #1 defense in the country, and we scored 3. lol /cries

Theyve held 3 of the best Big 10 teams to a ave. of 17 points a game.

So with you comparing all these rankings, and who beat who. From what your saying, Penn State would clobber Mich since they allowed Minn to run up the score of 24 and trailed Minn to last 1 1/2 mins LEFT IN THE GAME, when they couldnt even score over 16 points aginist the laughingstock school of PSU.

Rankings are bullshit. But please leave Penn State out of you crying over to almost loseing to a team who almost lost a laughing stock. Just stick to hoping you beat OSU, and well pray that we can find a Oline who knows that defenders arnt allowed to touch the QB every play.