Family influence and politics

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » September 9, 2004, 7:47 pm

I have come to the realization that most americans cast a vote, and grow in to one political viewpoint simply based on who there family has generally approved of...even if one has a family of "swing voters" or republicans that occasionally vote democratic or vice versa, most people will still agree with the general flow of that of there backround
Keep in mind friends dont count in this poll as most people have friends with a wide variety of political viewpoints

miir · Post by **miir** » September 9, 2004, 9:01 pm

Can you add a n/a vote so us non americans see see the results without having to click again?

So sue me, im lazy =)

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » September 9, 2004, 9:03 pm

Where is the "I don't support Bush or Kerry and have no clue who my family supports" option?

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » September 9, 2004, 9:09 pm

I actually wrote that in but forgot to add "add option" and not i cant go back and edit!
If your not american just say which canidate you like better, and i guess who you think your family would like?

if not then dont vote bitch!

Asheran Mojomaster · September 9, 2004, 9:57 pm

Xzion wrote:I actually wrote that in but forgot to add "add option" and not i cant go back and edit!
If your not american just say which canidate you like better, and i guess who you think your family would like?

if not then dont vote bitch!

That will skew the vote because 99% of non Americans will be pro-Kerry.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » September 9, 2004, 9:58 pm

Actually a world wide poll was taken and only 90% of the world wants Kerry to win the presidency.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » September 9, 2004, 10:01 pm

You need a

I am supporting neither, because both are scumbags!

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » September 9, 2004, 10:02 pm

Asheran Mojomaster wrote:
Xzion wrote:I actually wrote that in but forgot to add "add option" and not i cant go back and edit!
If your not american just say which canidate you like better, and i guess who you think your family would like?

if not then dont vote bitch!
That will skew the vote because 99% of non Americans will be pro-Kerry.

well i guess that says something!
Im not looking to see who will be the next president of the US on a VV poll, im looking for family influence on politics! Kerry/Bush is just the most popular example

Markulas · Post by **Markulas** » September 9, 2004, 10:03 pm

My family is very evenly split in politics and I wouldn't even know which douchebag I'd vote for.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » September 9, 2004, 10:14 pm

My family votes democrat across the board. I considered myself a dem too until I joined the armed forces and moved away from home. My voting record is Clinton, Bush, and soon to be Kerry. I am to the right but will vote on whomever I believe to be the better candidate. Simply put, I vote the issues, not the party.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » September 9, 2004, 10:19 pm

Krimson Klaw wrote:My family votes democrat across the board. I considered myself a dem too until I joined the armed forces and moved away from home. My voting record is Clinton, Bush, and soon to be Kerry. I am to the right but will vote on whomever I believe to be the better candidate. Simply put, I vote the issues, not the party.

Doesn't the army teach a liberal philosphy's - I've never been in the army so really don't know, but aren't you only as strong as your weakest link?

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » September 9, 2004, 10:29 pm

The military votes Republican due to that party bringing the pay raise increases to active duty. Republicans = bigger military, Dems usually = smaller.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » September 9, 2004, 10:40 pm

Krimson Klaw wrote:The military votes Republican due to that party bringing the pay raise increases to active duty. Republicans = bigger military, Dems usually = smaller.

Aye most military people are republican. Although my cousin in law (i guess is the right term) is comming out with the exact opposite view. Going into the military, in a special forces unit of some sort, he was republican, and in his eyes, changing his view after seeing his friends die for what he viewed as bush's personal vendetta...also he brought up that like 40% of his unit is not re-enlisting
I think hes still actually republican, but just very anti-bush

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » September 9, 2004, 11:03 pm

So he's a real conservative? Not a Republican?

Spang · Post by **Spang** » September 10, 2004, 1:03 am

my family wants bush and i really don't care who wins.

however, i'm leaning more and more towards bush as the election gets closer and closer to super tuesday.

although, my family has no influence on my decision, i just don't think putting a new guy in office right now is a very wise decision for the american people.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » September 10, 2004, 3:45 pm

Spang wrote:i just don't think putting a new guy in office right now is a very wise decision for the american people.

Because we all know what a bang up job Bush has done in the war on terror..

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » September 10, 2004, 4:02 pm

All of my extended family will most likely vote for Bush.

If the Democrats actually managed to run a credible candidate for a change that ratio would be shifted 40/60.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » September 10, 2004, 4:32 pm

Thess wrote:Actually a world wide poll was taken and only 90% of the world wants Kerry to win the presidency.

I guess if I was a terrorist I would want to see Kerry win too.

I know my wife will vote Bush, no idea about the rest of my family. So far, since I have been of age to vote, there has not been a single candidate that I even wanted to vote for except Perot...and he backed out. I will wait until there is a viable independent or someone who really falls into the moderate category that matches my views before I walk into a voting booth.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » September 10, 2004, 4:49 pm

So 90% of the world are terrorists? Wow if you are right then Bush really does need to stay in power.

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » September 10, 2004, 8:20 pm

Krimson Klaw wrote:So 90% of the world are terrorists? Wow if you are right then Bush really does need to stay in power.

Amen. Hallelujah. Amen.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » September 11, 2004, 12:07 am

My family is pretty sternly behind kerry, but it is mostly latino blind hate. Voting Bush myself if things dont change soon.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » September 11, 2004, 2:50 am

Most of my family are all Christians and we just can't see how any Christian could vote Republican nor for Bush... no matter what he "says" in his speeches, his actions definitely aren't that of what I would consider from a man of God or someone trying to follow the example set by Jesus. No matter HOW many videos they make to the contrary

Talk is cheap. Getting people killed for no reason while ignoring those who need help here at home is NOT WJWD... it's just not. I know a LOT of big Christian groups are big Republicans now... doesn't mean they are right. As I've said before, there are a lot of sheep out there just looking for someone to tell them what to believe - does not mean that is what God wants either. Heh, who know maybe they are reading a different book. Mine says BIBLE on it, especially the New Testament.

Jesus' only big commandments were to Love God and Love Your Neighbor... Bush says he does the first, but definitely shows he dosen't do the second. Tends to make me doubt the first one. But it's not my place to judge him, he will have to answer for that not me. I just have to vote what my heart, mind and spirit tell me.

Marb

Thess · Post by **Thess** » September 11, 2004, 2:56 am

Marbus wrote:Most of my family are all Christians and we just can't see how any Christian could vote Republican nor for Bush... no matter what he "says" in his speeches, his actions definitely aren't that of what I would consider from a man of God or someone trying to follow the example set by Jesus. No matter HOW many videos they make to the contrary

Talk is cheap. Getting people killed for no reason while ignoring those who need help here at home is NOT WJWD... it's just not.

Marb

But the republican party is the party of God. So is hezbolla!

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » September 11, 2004, 4:33 am

I was heading to bed but felt my messaged needed a follow up...

When I say I'm a Christian I know that connotates some positive and negative stereotypes to some people. What I never mean by that is that I'm perfect or consider myself, nor anyone else, even close... but I try. I try not to curse, but as you know from this board, I often fail when angry. I really love the female form and thus dig porn, but I have none at the house nor on my Hard Drives... because I WILL watch it and dwell on it too much. For those who know me they know I'm usually honest and caring but sometimes even fail at that.

I don't want this thread to change into a religious discussion but I didn't want anyone to think I trying to judge our President for his imperfections. I just can't see how the basic agenda of the Republican party, at is core, is in any way compatible with what I know in my heart is the right way to live... To me the whole message of the Bible can be summed up in the question God asked Cain in Genesis and in his response "Where is your brother Able?" "Am I my brother's keeper?" The correct answer was "Yes you are." From what I can tell that theme is one of the few that is consistant thoughout both the Old and New Testaments. Treating others with respect and doing our best to take care of one another.

From MANY other threads on this board we all know that mainstream Religion hasn't followed that message well... in some cases at all. But I still believe after you have the basics down (the Resurrection) it all boils down to that in regards to how we live our lives.

Kerry may not stand with the exact same stance as some Christians would like on 1 or 2 issues, but I do believe the party he represents has good of all in mind much more than their counterpart. No... that dosen't mean there aren't greedy Democrats too, it just means the fundamentals are in the right place.

I want to see more jobs, I want to see less outsourcing overseas, I want to see every American - regardless of Age, Gender, Ethnicity or Sexual Preference have decent health care, I don't want to be lied to at all - but not especially when American lives are at stake, I think we need to bolster the support from our long term allies - to win peace, we can easily win the battles but without help, what price will we pay for peace? I want a smaller defecit so that my mother (and hopefully my family as well) will be able to draw Social Security, I want all elderly Americans - regardless of Financial Savy to be able to COUNT on Social Secuirty when they retire. I want us to have fair and balanced trade agreements that protect not only American Job but also American Patents - how can we do that when we keep borrowing money from China? I want a stronger America that acts with swiftness AND conscience rather than either or...

George W. Bush is not the person to make that happen... I just hope John Kerry will be.

Sorry for the digression...
Marb

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » September 11, 2004, 11:02 am

Marbus wrote:I was heading to bed but felt my messaged needed a follow up...

When I say I'm a Christian I know that connotates some positive and negative stereotypes to some people. What I never mean by that is that I'm perfect or consider myself, nor anyone else, even close... but I try. I try not to curse, but as you know from this board, I often fail when angry. I really love the female form and thus dig porn, but I have none at the house nor on my Hard Drives... because I WILL watch it and dwell on it too much. For those who know me they know I'm usually honest and caring but sometimes even fail at that.

I don't want this thread to change into a religious discussion but I didn't want anyone to think I trying to judge our President for his imperfections. I just can't see how the basic agenda of the Republican party, at is core, is in any way compatible with what I know in my heart is the right way to live... To me the whole message of the Bible can be summed up in the question God asked Cain in Genesis and in his response "Where is your brother Able?" "Am I my brother's keeper?" The correct answer was "Yes you are." From what I can tell that theme is one of the few that is consistant thoughout both the Old and New Testaments. Treating others with respect and doing our best to take care of one another.

From MANY other threads on this board we all know that mainstream Religion hasn't followed that message well... in some cases at all. But I still believe after you have the basics down (the Resurrection) it all boils down to that in regards to how we live our lives.

Kerry may not stand with the exact same stance as some Christians would like on 1 or 2 issues, but I do believe the party he represents has good of all in mind much more than their counterpart. No... that dosen't mean there aren't greedy Democrats too, it just means the fundamentals are in the right place.

I want to see more jobs, I want to see less outsourcing overseas, I want to see every American - regardless of Age, Gender, Ethnicity or Sexual Preference have decent health care, I don't want to be lied to at all - but not especially when American lives are at stake, I think we need to bolster the support from our long term allies - to win peace, we can easily win the battles but without help, what price will we pay for peace? I want a smaller defecit so that my mother (and hopefully my family as well) will be able to draw Social Security, I want all elderly Americans - regardless of Financial Savy to be able to COUNT on Social Secuirty when they retire. I want us to have fair and balanced trade agreements that protect not only American Job but also American Patents - how can we do that when we keep borrowing money from China? I want a stronger America that acts with swiftness AND conscience rather than either or...

George W. Bush is not the person to make that happen... I just hope John Kerry will be.

Sorry for the digression...
Marb

If only most christians thought like you and your family, there wouldnt be so many bad steryotypes professed by the majority of the people that call themselves "christian" being that god hates gay people and doesnt want anyone to have sex unless there trying to overpopulate the earth, and realize that a true christian god stands for unity, acceptance and peace, and not opression, discrimination and or force towards those that do not follow there faith.

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