Now this is a idea!

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 2, 2004, 12:33 pm

Kill a civilian,Burn a Mosque!! WTG Nepal!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3616712.stm

miir · Post by **miir** » September 2, 2004, 12:57 pm

Ignorant people who share the same type of prejudice as Midnyte are prone to doing stupid shit like this.

Drasta · Post by **Drasta** » September 2, 2004, 12:59 pm

only thing i think we should do is ... all those terroriest hiding out in "historical holy shrines" bla bla bla ... we should just blow em up teach em not to hide behind historical shit

Post by **Sylvus** » September 2, 2004, 1:01 pm

There's something fishy about that article.

bbc.co.uk wrote:Nepalese Muslim groups have condemned the killings, saying the "inhuman act is against Islam".

The English language Kathmandu Post newspaper said the militants who had killed the hostages were simply "terrorists who have camouflaged themselves in the masks of Islam".

Those bloodthirsty Muslims would never condemn an act like this! Hell, it was the Muslims who did the killings!! It makes no sense...

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » September 2, 2004, 1:20 pm

Sylvus wrote:There's something fishy about that article.

bbc.co.uk wrote:Nepalese Muslim groups have condemned the killings, saying the "inhuman act is against Islam".

The English language Kathmandu Post newspaper said the militants who had killed the hostages were simply "terrorists who have camouflaged themselves in the masks of Islam".
Those bloodthirsty Muslims would never condemn an act like this! Hell, it was the Muslims who did the killings!! It makes no sense...

If I find out my Christian neighbor is going to commit a terrorist act I report him to the police. His Christianity is not a factor for me doing the right thing.

Why don't the Muslims in places like Iraq do this? Could it be the ambivalence (or tacit approval) of their religious teachers and other moral leaders?

Sorry, I see this as a clear signal of the moral weakness of Islam as it's currently practiced in the Mideast.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » September 2, 2004, 1:24 pm

Metanis wrote:If I find out my Christian neighbor is going to commit a terrorist act I report him to the police. His Christianity is not a factor for me doing the right thing.

Why don't the Muslims in places like Iraq do this? Could it be the ambivalence (or tacit approval) of their religious teachers and other moral leaders?

Thats only assuming that they know their neighbor is doing this. Suppose your neighbor killed a few people but you had no idea, should we condem you too for not stopping him?

Post by **Sylvus** » September 2, 2004, 1:26 pm

Take that one step further then Metanis. If you are a Christian and you find out your Christian neighbor has done something wrong after the fact, that doesn't mean that you both are bad people.

Even if he commits his actions in God's name, that doesn't mean you are a bad person for worshipping the same god. It means that he is messed up.

If I'm not mistaken, many of the people we've captured/killed have come as a result of us being tipped off by their "neighbors". You can't assume that people always spot what their neighbors are doing.

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » September 2, 2004, 1:45 pm

Sylvus wrote:Take that one step further then Metanis. If you are a Christian and you find out your Christian neighbor has done something wrong after the fact, that doesn't mean that you both are bad people.

Even if he commits his actions in God's name, that doesn't mean you are a bad person for worshipping the same god. It means that he is messed up.

If I'm not mistaken, many of the people we've captured/killed have come as a result of us being tipped off by their "neighbors". You can't assume that people always spot what their neighbors are doing.

I like syrup with my waffles.

Post by **Sylvus** » September 2, 2004, 1:51 pm

Christ it's fucking pointless to even try to have a conversation with you.

But I won't stop there, as that'd be doing the same shit you do. I'll tell you why! It's pointless to have a conversation with you because you are obstinate and closed-minded and you quit every discussion you get into with some one-liner that's supposed to be derogatory but rarely even makes any sense.

How exactly am I waffling?

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » September 2, 2004, 2:09 pm

Sylvus wrote:Christ it's fucking pointless to even try to have a conversation with you.

But I won't stop there, as that'd be doing the same shit you do. I'll tell you why! It's pointless to have a conversation with you because you are obstinate and closed-minded and you quit every discussion you get into with some one-liner that's supposed to be derogatory but rarely even makes any sense.

How exactly am I waffling?

Sylvus wrote:Those bloodthirsty Muslims would never condemn an act like this! Hell, it was the Muslims who did the killings!! It makes no sense...

Sylvus wrote:You can't assume that people always spot what their neighbors are doing.

So do you condemn the terrorists? Or do you want to give them a pass?

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 2, 2004, 2:16 pm

Lynks wrote:
Metanis wrote:If I find out my Christian neighbor is going to commit a terrorist act I report him to the police. His Christianity is not a factor for me doing the right thing.

Why don't the Muslims in places like Iraq do this? Could it be the ambivalence (or tacit approval) of their religious teachers and other moral leaders?
Thats only assuming that they know their neighbor is doing this. Suppose your neighbor killed a few people but you had no idea, should we condem you too for not stopping him?

Yeah your little muslim friends are that niave. Give me a break.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 2, 2004, 2:18 pm

Metanis wrote:
Sylvus wrote:Christ it's fucking pointless to even try to have a conversation with you.

But I won't stop there, as that'd be doing the same shit you do. I'll tell you why! It's pointless to have a conversation with you because you are obstinate and closed-minded and you quit every discussion you get into with some one-liner that's supposed to be derogatory but rarely even makes any sense.

How exactly am I waffling?

Sylvus wrote:Those bloodthirsty Muslims would never condemn an act like this! Hell, it was the Muslims who did the killings!! It makes no sense...

Sylvus wrote:You can't assume that people always spot what their neighbors are doing.
So do you condemn the terrorists? Or do you want to give them a pass?

Ill take a Free Pass for 200 Alex!!

Post by **Sylvus** » September 2, 2004, 2:28 pm

Okay, the first line was a joke, aimed at Midnyte. I thought that was pretty clear, as in almost every thread that I've participated in where anyone has tried to lump all Muslims as violent people, I have said that you can't judge 22% of the world on the actions of a small minority. But apparently that went over your head.

I also don't think that I've ever said we should give the terrorists a pass, and have always condemned terrorism. I did say that the act of chopping someone's head off is not inherently more "evil" than dropping bombs out of a plane on someone, but that is a far cry from condoning it. The main point of my argument yesterday was to try and show you that evil is completely subjective and that on the other side of the argument, people think we are just as evil as you think they are. I contend that neither side is evil. I'd prefer that neither of us were killing the other.

So that stance hasn't changed, could you show me somewhere that I've waffled, please?

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » September 2, 2004, 6:52 pm

He'd explain it to you, but he doesn't want to waste his time on something that would just go over your head.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » September 2, 2004, 8:54 pm

While I am not an Atheist, I would gladly kill anyone who had killed in the name of their god.

Bojangels · Post by **Bojangels** » September 2, 2004, 9:12 pm

Metanis wrote:
If I find out my Christian neighbor is going to commit a terrorist act I report him to the police. His Christianity is not a factor for me doing the right thing.

Why don't the Muslims in places like Iraq do this? Could it be the ambivalence (or tacit approval) of their religious teachers and other moral leaders?

Sorry, I see this as a clear signal of the moral weakness of Islam as it's currently practiced in the Mideast.

Isn't every cop on the streets of Iraq Muslim? I bet they're doing everything they can to stop terrorist acts from occuring. And if you follow fox I'm sure you've heard of Steve-O, the boy who turned in his own insurgent father.

I don't think religion has a whole lot to do with it. They're at war and the only thing they have a chance against are soft targets.